>Christians, Pagans, mystics, gnostics, atheists, etc welcome. (No muslims or jews obviously.) >defend Whites >defend Europe >defend Europeans >take back our lands >institute new governments and policies >defend rallies from antifa (saal-schutz) >defend free speech >promote the attaining and spreading of knowledge >spread redpills and whitepills >value nature >value traditional family >show women a based way of life >and more, etc
The point is to unite those of European descent and political (and spiritual) ideologies associated with that. >Constitutional Nationalism >Ethno-Nationalism >Eco-Fascism >Neo-Fascism >National Socialism >Libertarian >Conservative >etc
The ideology will be further defined as more threads are made and more discussion takes place.
Please, stop arguing about the religion the Order should back. Since it is meant to be extremely decentralized, every cell will back the religion it wants.
On the long run, every cell will strive towards the same ideal.
> no central religion > no Muslims obvs, teehee XDDDD
Top kek, that’s mighty edgy of you, Sturmbannführer. Of course you guys want to forget Europe’s experiences and interactions with the nuances of Islamic thought, much less the influence of the Aryan races on the Islamic tradition, which spans both East and West. Don’t the spergs among you think Mohammad was white anyway? I’ve definitely seen it argued here
Agreed. Some of that is shills to try and fracture us from the start (or make us appear to be fractured to anons just discovering the Order). Many disingenuous posters have come aboard to fuck with us.
Lucas Martinez
>Europe’s experiences and interactions with the nuances of Islamic thought ah yes, i almost forgot. pic related
>Since it is meant to be extremely decentralized this sounds like a bad idea. If we start to be noticed and some glow in the dark cia nigger decides to go ape shit in the name of our order, there will be no leadership or "rule book" to denounce them. And then we'll be named as a terrorist group or some shit.
Gavin Phillips
227440405 227440509 227440392 Found out. Lurkers: > Notice how the same three niggers talk while contributing nothing of value >(You) Are witnessing tranny discord raid of the /egg/ They’re afraid.
>how’d that work out for based Constantinople? as far as I'm concerned, the city is still under hostile occupation. The tenth crusade is just waiting to happen.
I'm not giving my telephone number to your (((telegram))) server.
Lincoln Evans
bump im interested boys.
Aiden Cruz
Hmmm... Good point actually. The tell tale sign is that they use weird racist language and have temper tantrums but never actually come across as White nationalists. Most of the White Nationalists I know don't even really use racist language much. These trannys are definitely doing a sloppy job.
There's a lot to play around with, not just the black sun, we can be less obvious and also be annoying in appropriating commons symbols. The heart for example... is a symbol we could claim if we wanted to. >pic related
It was put under Ottoman occupation in the first place because it and the Byzantines in general were still weakened from the time the Crusaders sacked the city, that’s how that happened. While I admit that the Crusades helped open up the world for exploration (using mostly Muslim-controlled trade routes through Asia), the crusaders certainly didn’t achieve their declared objectives, and they fought a lot against each other. Caliph Umar ensured that Christian sites weren’t harassed in Jerusalem, why do you think those churches like the Holy Sepulchre have remained for all this time?
No, the only Christians allowed are Gnostics and Rosicrucians. Every other brand of Christianity, especially Catholicism, is absolutely and thoroughly kiked from the top-down. You will not have a free Europe so long as the Catholic Church and its other Christian serpent heads are present in Europe.
Jacob Robinson
We have to save the whites from themselves.
Leo Ramirez
hahah your name is literally ONIONS
hahahaha the very architecture of the cosmos is laughing at you and calling you a faggot.
From what I think, it'd be more cultural and societal than political, but of course spreading political redpills would be part of it. The purpose is to unite the seemingly separated political and religious ideologies of European's and those of European descent and organize in order to promote them. The point would be for based and redpilled Catholics to recognize what Catholicism is doing now and actively counter it.
And you're argument is that we shouldn't ban muslims because their culture has permeated ours to some extent? If so, It's not nearly as prevalent as christian or pagan rhetoric. Aren't you aware that most of the christian theistic and philosophic tradition has it's roots in ancient greece and rome? Some of it was preserved by the muslims, yes. But that wasn't by virtue of them being muslim. I didn't watch the videos but i'd wager that the metaphysics one has it's roots in greek philosophy.
Brandon Morgan
As someone who actually studies Gnosticism, stay far far away from gnosticwarrior.com. The information on there is either blatant disinfo or just flat out wrong and written by a complete retard. Either way, it is completely misleading and completely off base, and doing you no favors.
William Long
How much larp cringe can you fit into one post? Just use the swastika or iron cross or something. The black sun is an absolutely hideous symbol and it's associated with satanism.
That knight is covered in swastikas and the style of his armor is also from southern Germany. Funny.
Dominic Torres
oops
Josiah Myers
>absolutely hideous symbol runelets can't read the black sun.
Josiah Nguyen
12 Rays has had 5 threads in a row and a constant 24 hour presence on Jow Forums, it has the shills scared. They are resorting to desperate techniques to try and derail the Order.
The Catholic Church has been completely pozzed from day 1. The KGB of the Middle Ages, destroying culture, traditions and beliefs (including the original, esoteric and truly powerful forms of early Christianity) of Europeans for centuries, and their mission still continues on to this day. Theres nothing wrong with placing your faith in Christ, but do research on the true origin and real teaching of Christianity, and realize that any form of exoteric Christian organized religion is the complete antithesis of true Christian faith and European culture.
Tyler Moore
I saw these same sort of threads back in 2012. They never go anywhere. It's just for larping and fantasizing.
Nicholas Scott
It is literally 24 hours old. What do want from us? I'll send a telegram to the NY Times, LA Times, and associated press in the morning announcing the founding of the Order. You all want instant gratification. The world does not work like that.
So far so good
Gavin Collins
227442704 227442562 227441396 227440938 Same three niggers.
Hudson Jones
You shouldn’t ban Muslims for the following reasons:
> existence of Muslims with European genotype such as Chechens and Pontic Muslims > Iranian and European influences on Islamic thought, such as that of Suhrawardi which I put in my first post > existence of Traditionalists such as Rene Guenon and certain Europeans who are initiated in Sufi orders
The Christian-Muslim geographical dichotomy is far from clear-cut. Islamic tradition did so much more than simply preserving Greek philosophy; in fact, Muslims actually built upon it and made their own organic derivations and reactions against it, look into Avicenna and al-Ghazali. Goethe and many thinkers from the Romantic period translated the works of Rumi and Hafez. Christian apologetics deleveloped in large part from Christian officials in Muslim lands, such as those of the Jacobites. Like it or not, the European right is becoming interested in Traditionalism as a reaction to postmodernism, which is very influenced by Islamic thought.
The first thread was legitimately late last night. Seriously, it's hilarious though. I agree with you, I just think they're are Catholics who know what's going on and would be amazing allies in fighting and spreading awareness about it.
Isaiah Scott
Even if that is all it becomes it will give some anons hope a happiness, which is more than every slide thread, nigger porn etc. that the mods push in this place
Julian Davis
Lame dude
Adam Reed
According to a French mathematician named Poincare who lived about 100 years ago, the shape of our universe is that of a dodecahedron (12 sided platonic solid made of pentagons). I guess that means that we live in a 12 dimensional universe? The greeks and Romans called this the shape of the microcosm. They had a much more profound understanding of sacred geometry than we do nowadays (phi ratio, flower of life, nautilus spiral, etc). And the american flag has 50 pentagrams in it! Do you believe in coincidences?
Islam is just as pozzed as exoteric Christianity, and also are apart of the same New World Order matrix that serves a much wider agenda. Neither should be welcome in Europe, Islam especially because it is in fact an Arab supremacy cult, completely foreign to the European mindset.
Noah Lopez
Go back to r*ddit cuckservative.
Colton Anderson
so who are you guys voting for? im voting for trump because I detest the democrat's history of hatred.
The esoteric Muslims the Sufis which are beautifully spiritual are being killed off
Wyatt Bennett
>Sol Invictus >Flavians >Constantine
>not pozzed from day 1
Nope. All this predates World War 2 by nearly 2,000 years. Exoteric, organized fake Christianity was never meant to empower, it was only meant to control and keep people subservant.
Dispersion and exchange of ideas is natural. We take good ideas from them and they take good ideas form us. Doesn't change the fact that for the most part, islam has been viewed as either insignificant or an outright enemy of the west. I'm not exactly for the banning of Muslims from the group. But surely you understand, islam is by and large, eastern in essence.
>"well islam has had an impact on western thought" We shouldn't view the whole situiation as a spectrum, I'm sure daoism, west africa, and mongolian raiders have had an impact on the west as well.
Jeremiah Sullivan
Discord is monitored by CIA niggers. Do not at any point use discord. If you do, you are a fucking moron.
Justin Perry
>allowing libertarians and conservatives when will you niggers learn that all liberals, including conservatives and especially libertarians, are the enemy?
Jayden Williams
227443602 Found out. Tranny shill. 227443639 Found out. Samefag nigger.