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Hello Comrades, this general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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1st. Kys gtfo. Sage.

take your meds schizo

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Also null trips bitch.

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in my late years i've learned true communism is like true christianity, it's never been practiced

i've also come to the conclusion through listening to alain badaou that the idea itself is basically christianity for the athiest, a transcendent ideal that allows the weak individual to give up his ego for the greater good....


how do we fuse anacap and libertarian ideals with communism????

the answer is CHRISTIANITY!

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Greetings Comrades! Here we discuss all things fascism. What is Fascism you ask? Fascism is a complete rejection of materialism. the market is regulated in a manner that hinders the gluttony, manipulation, and misguidance of the people. a meritocracy is enforced in a manner so that people are employed based off of their unique skill sets, so that they may aid and benefit society in the way they are best suited. Order is achieved, spirituality is encouraged, and purpose is applied to everyone and everything. like the fasces, the people of all classes are bound together so that they may be stronger, and function similar to a single living organism. a bold leader oversees and commands the body, a strong military protects and serves the body, and a driven, healthy, and inspired working class nourishes and replenishes the body. together as one, contributing where we are most valuable, always striving toward greatness, the fascist society will exist in success and prosperity.

VIDEOS:
bitchute.com/video/jFkOA3IaZ4dX/ (Fascist philosophy)
archive.org/details/youtube-NihZ0NLHqKg (Corporatism)
bit.tube/play?hash=QmexSr5TQcxK3ZNigfm717YQj939WU2h8VLyTnpjtGYhaG&channel=65901 (What is a fascist?)
youtube.com/watch?v=tN5XMZ6kZu4 [Open] (What is fascism? ABP)
youtube.com/watch?v=o2fS4CvnIPQ [Open] (ABP Manifest part 1)

BOOKS:
>100 Questions About Fascism by Oswald Mosley
cnqzu.com/library/Solar General/100-questions-about-fascism-oswald-mosley.pdf
>Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
lancasterlawoffice.com/Media/Gentile, Origins and Doctrine of Fascism.pdf
>The Doctrine of Fascism by Benito Mussolini
sjsu.edu/people/james.lindahl/courses/Hum2B/s2/Mussolini-on-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

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czech'd

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Recommended reading
>Benito Mussolini - The Doctrine of Fascism
>Adolf Hitler - My Struggle
>George Sorel - Reflections on Violence
>Corneliu Zelea Codreanu - For My Legionaries
>Oswald Mosley - Fascism 100 Questions Asked and Answered
>Ironmarch Literature and Articles
>Raven Thompson - The Coming Corporate State
>Oswald Spengler - Prussianism And Socialism
>Oswald Spengler - Decline of West
>Giovanni Gentile - The Philosophic Basis of Fascism
>Julius Evola - Revolt Against The Modern World
>Francis Parker Yockey - Imperium
>George Lincoln Rockwell - This Time The World
>Kevin B. Macdonald - Culture of Critique
>Yukio Mishima - Sun and Steel
>Fausto Pitigliani - The Italian Corporative State
>Ernst Junger - Storm Of Steel
>James Mason - SIEGE
Useful links
>Doctrine of Fascism
worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm:
>Mein Kampf
hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/
>Library of various Fascist works
bibliotecafascista.blogspot.com/
>Ironmarch Archive
mega.nz/#F!U3YAyJqK!EK-81ka9QIauKfYuWrkruQ!1zh0FYiI
>NOOSE Archive
pastebin.com/rCykseWx
>Fascist/NS Philosophy
mega.nz/#F!cZoSEbpC!kdnYuLw3hvYSus9uZl6PRQ!QNAixJZL
>Various Philosophic Works
mega.nz/#F!0F5GXTjS!oGdz8UP5JbcleNMy6YKLvg!IUxw2R6T

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>next stage of humanity
the next stage of humanity is genetic engineering and AI induced speciation and then species death
orthodox marxism is a just larping at this point

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You can't steal pepe he's ours

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Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/hiwherearethefood/
gommies.gom/benis/
islamiggommunism.gom/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd

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Get your own memes faggot.

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We Dreamed Of Something Marvelous
>bitchute.com/video/L43nzV2U7pQl/

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I came here for this post.

A communism thread just doesn't feel right without this.

How many millions of people in China and India have been lifted out of poverty in the last few decades?

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The overwhelming majority of people who have been lifted out of extreme poverty in the last 3 decades have virtually all been from China, a country that isn't even capitalist.

>all been from China, a country that isn't even capitalist.

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China is not communist they went fash in the 90s

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youtube.com/watch?v=KFG1JQm-Skg&list=PLv8zGAwn-AzHZckBC8DGFGr0cCGlx7A7F&index=29&t=0s

Friendly reminder that the Nazi's killed way more white people than the jews, brown people, or any other non-white group ever did in history ever. Period.

Friendly reminder that the cultural decadence and 'degeneracy' that you fashi's fear and hate is a byproduct of capitalists manipulating people with advertising and consumerism to take advantage of their animal psychology.

Friendly reminder that fascism poses no threat to the real people who actually control society (not muh Joos) but the billionaire oligarchs that have all of the governments in their back pockets.

Friendly reminder that capitalist imperialism is the real reason why floods of migrants are coming to Europe and the United States, because when you destroy their countries with bombs and imperialism, they are going to flee to places that aren't wartorn shit holes ruled by US backed dictators.

Friendly reminder that there are more white people on earth now than ever in human history.

Friendly reminder that middle eastern people are the same race as Europeans, and that the concept of whiteness is extremely ambiguous. You fashi's can't even agree as to who is white and who isn't. (recall all of the shit posting about slavs and irish people not being white)

Friendly reminder that you have more in common with a black or brown person within your own income bracket than you do with a white multi-billionaire.

Friendly reminder that racism and bigotry is just a scapegoat used by the ruling elite to keep you divided and subjugated and fighting amongst your fellow man.

Friendly reminder that socialism would do way more to stop the spread of migrants into Europe and America than fascism ever will, and that to be a fascist is to be a useful idiot to the ruling elite.

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this post gave me deja vu

Where are the Rothschilds?

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>Economy operate according to long term plan rather than what maximizes profit.
>The bulk of the critical infrastructure and industry is ran and controlled by the Communist Party of China.
>Routinely executes businessmen and billionaires for corruption.
>Has successfully integrated their economy into the global trade hub and now hold the US by the balls.

Admittedly they may not be 'full socialist' but they sure hell aren't capitalist either.

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Literally all this applies to communism you fucking goon

marxism is 19th century pseudoscience

Fuck your mother

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>Routinely executes businessmen and billionaires for corruption.
Sauce they run a fash economy

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If you switched the words communism and capitalism in this picture, it would actually be true.

>Capitalism
>Latin America
Literally every single country in this shithole declares itself socialist

ftfy

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CH and Franklin were actual retards for trusting Stalin. Sometimes i think they even did it on purpose on letting Stalin/USSR go hog wild

My main concern with communism as an ideology is that the common people are unruly animals that will alternate between eating each other and lazing about without a mighty sovereign to guide them.

Now that God seems to have stepped out of the picture, the invisible hand of the market somewhat effectively solves the issue of the sovereign by justifying an organized system of exploitation and hierarchy without putting an insane despot in charge. Speaking of despots, most successful instances of 'communism' involve giving someone extraordinary amounts of power and stoking national fervor. Even the tribal peoples Marxists seem to point to in order to prove cooperation can exist without a hierarchy were largely patriarchal.

>then why does America have to destroy all the communist states!?
Because they want keep nations within their sphere of influence. Don't be a normie.

I really don't see how something like this can work with something as grandiose as civilization. Some form of mixed-government seems best. Not trying to troll or anything, genuinely curious to hear your retort.

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Winston Churchill and his connections to Jewry
>m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhy5uWPVDM

Stalin's secret war plans
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

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So that's going to happen as simple as that? You do realize that Communists all over the world have tried this, and got their asses handed to them. Think about what will come when your comrades and yourself try this, you'll be met with the most violent resistance possible. Save your people, and yourself, abandon communism.

Based and redpilled

Jewry is rampant in the UK. CH's top spy against Germany was also a Jew who worked along with christian churches to stay undetected.

you dont really believe what you are saying do you

Sounds like a shitty version of the French Consulate.

You don't know anything. The socialist countries massively improved living conditions for hundreds of millions of people. The third world could develop, but they can't because they're being kept poor by a combination of US imperialism, predatory loans from the IMF and World Bank, Western backed dictators, and centuries of European colonialism.

Look into Thomas Sankaras Burkina Faso, this is the testimony of what these poor African countries are capable of doing with proper leadership and when they aren't being strangled by loans, colonialism, or imperialism:

thomassankara.net/facts-about-thomas-sankara-in-burkina-faso/?lang=en

Life expectancy shot up from around 35 to 65-70 under Maos China.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4331212/

The Eastern Bloc Countries consistently grew under socialism and only slumped after capitalist restoration:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia#/media/File:Eastern_bloc_economies_GDP_1990.jpg

Soviet Russia between the years 1930 and 1960 was effectively the fastest growing economy on earth. Between the years 1930 and 1940, they effectively made 50 years worth of industrial progress in 10. This is a great book that discusses the strides in economic progress in detail:
eastsidemarxism.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/robert-c-allen-farm-to-factory-a-reinterpretation-of-the-soviet-industrial-revolution-1.pdf

>i'm too fast, stupid, and lazy to work. Make rich people give me their money!

Funny how backwards that shit post has got it. Under capitalism, the rich are the ones who sit around collecting money for free off of the hard work of their employees. So if you actually believe people should "get what they work for" you should become a socialist.

>Sauce
Read nigga:
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-23/china-executes-14-billionaires-in-8-years-culture-news-reports

Books you recommend on the USSR and Maos china and communism in general?

...So they developed because they isolated themselves from the predatory elements of the developed world, not because of 'communism'.
>Soviet Russia between the years 1930 and 1960 was effectively the fastest growing economy on earth
Yeah, because they maneuvered themselves into becoming an industrial superpower. That growth would have stopped eventually if they didn't collapse for other reasons. A lot of those people were busting their asses to build a better future for their children, you have to wonder what happens when the growth period begins to falter. (this is completely unavoidable regardless of how the economy is structured by the way) What will all these people working like dogs do when the economy starts to recess? I think we will find out with China.

This is one misguided post or a big cope post?

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Snuff all commies, no exceptions!

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Mao is actually retarded, He thought birds were eating their grains and so have them killed over. Only after that food was totally destroyed by insects. Same thing in Vietnam; communists are retarded

Thanks

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Answer my posts please.

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>common people are unruly animals that will alternate between eating each other and lazing about without a mighty sovereign to guide them.

Good leadership is an important cornerstone of any society and you'd be a fool to think its any different under capitalism.

>Now that God seems to have stepped out of the picture, the invisible hand of the market somewhat effectively solves the issue of the sovereign by justifying an organized system of exploitation and hierarchy without putting an insane despot in charge.

Capitalists put insane despots in charge of countries all the time because they protect their precious private property and financial interests. The US alone backs 70 percent of the worlds dictators:

truthout.org/articles/us-provides-military-assistance-to-73-percent-of-world-s-dictatorships/

Ever heard of Pinochets Chile? Suharto's Indonesia? Hitlers Germany? Ngo Diems Vietnam? Batistas Cuba? or Apartheid South Africa?

Your "invisible hand" sure does like to coup sovereign governments and install puppet dictators on behalf of the interests of foreign mega banks and corporations man. I don't know.

Now with that being said, it is true that many of the socialist experiments of the 20th century were very autocratic, however, there is nothing inherent to the philosophy of communism that says you can't have a democratic process at the helm. In addition, while many of the first socialist countries had seldom political democracy, they enjoyed a great deal more workplace democracy than we do here in the capitalist countries. Cuba for example enjoys a process of direct democracy:

counterpunch.org/2019/01/23/popular-democracy-in-cuba/

>Even the tribal peoples Marxists seem to point to in order to prove cooperation can exist without a hierarchy were largely patriarchal.

Any anthropologist would tell you that this statement is a load of bullshit. Hunter gatherer societies (most of the time) were highly egalitarian.

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I can see feelthebern

>Capitalists put insane despots in charge of countries all the time because they protect their precious private property and financial interests.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I am not saying capitalism is perfect, I specifically said mixed-goverment is best for a reason. However, capitalist nations can dominate even with corruption. The Roman republic lasted for almost 500 years and was basically an oligarchy.
>there is nothing inherent to the philosophy of communism that says you can't have a democratic process at the helm
How would democracy work in communism? We often take democratic systems for granted because we haven't seen a real one in like 2500 years. How would you prevent things like tyranny of the majority, corruption, and factions popping popping up? Cuban 'democracy' is literal mob rule. Imagine trying to solve these problems in a nation as big as America.

Heres three good books to start off:

Blackshirts and Reds - Michael Parenti
Farm to Factory - Robert Allen
Chinese Economic Development - Bramall

also this Russias rapid growth is mostly attributed to economic planning, because as it turns out, when you don't have a bunch of greedy owners at the helm only concerned with enriching themselves, blowing money on advertising, dividends, rents, stock buybacks, and wasteful lavish lifestyles, it tends to free up a great deal of resources to plan directly to set quotas and goals.

>What will all these people working like dogs do when the economy starts to recess?

Russia's economy didn't recess until capitalism was restored. It grew boom-bust free for a solid 70 years. Now thats not to say the USSR didn't have a lot of problems, obviously they did. But they were the first socialist experiment of its kind. The soviet model was riddled with bureaucracy and archaic planning methods that couldn't accommodate a growing demand for a consumerist market. So a black market emerged.

Had they implemented cybernetic planning, and crushed Boris Yeltson with the red army, they probably could have saved the soviet union.

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>why communism?
>attacks capitalism
>never answers its own question

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Lmao y’all faggots are mad that I make more fucking money than you have all of your life.

Stay poor faggots.

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Communism was literally created by the intellectual class.

Will lgbt degenerates go to the gulag?

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communism is against the natural order of things and will never work.
take the fascist pill

I'm so bored of all of this I think the only funny thing to do is kill myself. What do you think? Unironic

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Obviously I do. It's okay, I know it's hard to understand things, after all you're a communist.

You do realize that posting the same meme twice convinces all of no one user?
Anyone can google the names positions and religions of the jews i named
none of them are false.

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>Russias rapid growth is mostly attributed to economic planning
All economies experience explosive growth in the early periods of industrialization, and all this was happening when an immense amount of post-war reconstruction was going on, which means enormous quantities of capital investment. Following this, there was also a period of increased economic freedom. I'm no economist, but I feel like these factors prolonged the period before stagnation occurred by a few decades.

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