What's going to happen if the court rules that the prorogation was illegal? Will parliament be called back into session? Will Boris be guillotined?
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He will be guillotined either way, then Brexit will be canceled.
I imagine they'll go back and then have scones for tea.
It's not gonna happen.
Prorogation is a power held by the executive.
Bongs had several hundred years to write down their unwritten constitution. too bad they didn't. kek
she is going to rule against the goverment
I certainly hope not. We need to get on with this shit and just leave, if it's ruled illegal, this will add to the non-stop volley.
Verhofstadt was right when he said Brexit is now just in-fighting in the government, it's not about what the people want. It's just Cons vs Cons vs Labour vs Labour. Britain is now an oligarchy.
what's your reasoning?
by understanding what she is saying. she has said he lied to the queen
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Literally exposed, Johnson is a fraud.
How long before the Right Honorable Speaker calls them back? Sounds like it is now up to him.
I'm getting this feeling too. This is a fuck-up of epic proportions.
Johnson arrest incoming
Wrong, it is up to the PM to ask the Speaker to do that. Boris will simply tell them to fuck off again.
No laws broken
prorogation isn't illegal, its a perfectly legal part of parliament.
In parliament the Speaker is more powerful than the PM. He is the most powerful person in the chamber
He misled the Queen
She has just ruled that. She made it clear from the highest court in the land. It's up to the Speaker of the house to judge what to do next.
That's incorrect, the baroness who read the ruling live has said it's up to the speaker and lord speaker to decide what happens next.
To recall Parliament the PM asks the Speaker to do that. That is the chain of command.
Will parliament be called back into session?
It's happening right now.
That isn't a crime, they are simply saying he abused his powers. It's a slap on the wrist & they are saying Parliament should not have been prorogued. the fact is Boris can simply do it all again with the correct paperwork this time.
Can't find that anywhere.
Prorogation is a power held by the executive. And the executive is allowed to make political decisions and exercise their power.
If the court does decide that it was illegal it would essentially be the courts playing politics.
Of course Bercow will recall them.
I think this just makes things worse. Revolution incoming at this rate. People are growing restless.
its up to the queen. shes allowed it
The "rule of law" works only for normies. If you steal a bike you will propably be judged according to relevant regulations. It doesent work in the top 1% where the justice system is a power struggle between powerful cliques. Why isnt Bush or Blair in prison? Too powerful. Why wont Epstein case ammount to anything? Too many powerful people. The "russiagate", General Flynn's case etc, all purely political power plays. Behind the scenes spooks run around playing their games and oligarchs make deals. Court rulings follow. If Boris and the pro-Brexit clique has enough political leverage they will get brexit done and bypass/coerce any judges in their way. These rulings would matter If the anti-brexit faction was stronger behind the scenes. With enough leverage you can bypass anything.
tldr doesent matter, at this level judges are just political actors
Yes after the PM tells them to proceed. They will come back & Johnson will prorogue Parliament again. HAHAHAHAHA
Why are they woo-ing?
No. Hale literally just said it's down to the speakers.
Bercow has just said parliament must convened without delay. So shits happening either today or tomorrow.
Fucks sake, it was said very clearly: the executive does not have the power to suspend parliament in order to prevent parliament doing its job.
Speaker calls the goverment in grand contempt of parliamentary law. There is no way out for him here.
because they are traitors
anybody know where I can find a good ditch?
But officially, she was "mislead" by her prime minister, so that means that she's blameless, and the prime minister has to take all the blame.
boris won't resign. its all about obstruction
the uk is still living the EU with no deal at this point.
And Boris will prorogue Parliament again. This has simply made Parliament in the future having to bring laws to prevent this in the future. This was Parliaments fault for not having the safeguards in place.
I bloody hope so.
misled are the ladies words. it was all done officially.
The law is the PM asks the speaker to recall Parliament. They ruled the perogation is null & void, Boris can simply issue a new one with the correct paperwork.
the queen wouldn't have agreed to something without her advisers and legal team accessing it first.
“The court is bound to conclude therefore that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions.”
but that is the point of the prorogation to begin with. Not to mention this type of thing happens all the time in other commonwealth nations. so this is one for the books.
boris won't resign. its all about obstruction
Agreed on both points.
And Boris will prorogue Parliament again
Which would be dangerous for multiple reasons. He wouldn't survive another one and the man who wants to be Churchill will go down like Churchill the Dog instead.
Absolutely agreed with the rest of what you said though, desu.
Did you not listen the ruling. They stated to do so at this time would be deemed unlawful.
All they need to do is to make sure that nothing negative can be attributed to the queen herself. The prime minister is take all the blame for it. That is all that matters. That is the role of the dumb non-royal plebs.
What if the states decides to ignore the constitution ? Who is gonna stop them ? Super Nigel ?
Snap elections maybe
He's survived this long. I think no one wants the job at this point.
it was confirmed in 2016. this is kikery at its finest.
wont change a fucking thing.
unless the labour traitors can come up with an alternative reason to delay brexit again, the uk will be leaving with a no deal.
You do realise this was all about paperwork & a queen's speech was going to happen? Paperwork rewritten, scrutinised by all & no reeeing from Remoaners is going to stop it. And Parliament as also left with having to bring in laws to stop this from happening again. Basically admitting their own rules were shit.
Well, they aren't prorogued and they aren't adjourned, so it sounds to me like Parliament, legally, is still in session.
I don't see the need to recall parliament. Hale said the porogation was null and void. MPs should be able to show up and start working again as soon as they're able to.
This. It's only a few bongs till all the remoaners go wakey wakey
So the Judges are saying the gov has no power now & neither does the Queen? I do love the clown world optics of this.
This means war!
To the BoJo Brexit bunker, folks.
Absolutely based, a victory for democracy.
What matters first and foremost to the Labour party is obviously to humiliate Boris Johnson and make sure that he literally cannot make the UK leave by the end of October. After humiliating him, then they'll start doing general elections.
And then we'll see if labour, libdems, tories or the brexit party will take over control of the parliament, and then negotiate with the 27 other EU member states about long to delay Brexit, until the new tax regime is enacted.
its all about stopping brexit, its nothing more than this.
they dont want a deal or no deal. they just dont want brexit. its just a big fucking obstruction.
Kill yourself memeflag.
The gov has no power
It said it had no justification for the porogation.
The queen has no power
The monarchy hasn't had any real power since the 2nd civil war.
Quite the opposite.
The absolute state of Jo Swindell
It's their funeral if they don't do the one thing they have been mandated to do and then go outside start begging for votes. I can't imagine a more retarded move desu.
Yup. They only even gave us the referendum in the first place because in their arrogance they felt certain they would win.
Civil war, god willing.
If they actually undo Brexit, I hope you british faggots are going to riot and burn down everything in sight, otherwise never ever post on Jow Forums again as you will be revealed as the greatest cucks on the planet by a very large margin, beating out Sweden and Germany combined.
Just though I'd pop in to see how you're all reacting, and the lack of reading comprehension that some of you have really is astounding
BORIS FOUGHT THE LAW AND THE LAW WON
Cameron loses referendum
Walks off whistling
He didn't give a shit that he lost.
The Queens speech justifies that pregation & that can only happen with the Queen's consent. Now unelected Judges are saying the Gov cannot carry out something that is allowed in law. Looks like Corbyn has his Republic now.
If they do undo it, it will be very dangerous. I predict riots. The best thing to do is just continue and get out.
Yeah right. It cost him his job and is the reason that little story about a pig hit the papers.
That's part of why this is disgusting: the courts undermining the Queen.
Monarchy has been around 100s of years, this "supreme court" was a Blair creation for this very purpose. Bunch of cunts.
What in the actual fuck is going on?
EU are happy to shit on the brits leaving. Any other country ever wants to sign up is sure as hell going to think twice.
Fuck the french, Fuck the Germans, RULE BRITANNIA
usual media hype.
boris isn't leaving, they'll just have to yell at each other for an extra week or two next month.
nothing to see here, move on
Ok sweetie, stay mad.
The government wasn't able to justify the extreme duration and bad timing of the prorogation, the judges declared that Boris had lied about his motives behind the prorogation and he did it just to hinder Parliament's democratic oversight function.
And mind you, 11 judges ruled this unanimously, zero dissenting opinions.
Absolutely fucking BASED
I'm actually agreeing with you.
Will Boris be guillotined?
Not only this, dude. Bongs- dig out your funny helmets of ww2.
i'm sure they will appeal this, seems "the legal team" has been hand picked for this
11 judges ruled this unanimously,
11 brown envelopes.
I on the other hand only predict a few dumb old poor grumbling people holding up a few signs.
I wouldn't mind a full civil war happening in Great Britan, though, as that would weaken the UK, and then finally get it to dissolve into independent Scotland, England, Wales and a reunited Ireland.
But in reality, one should try to be happy with the small things instead.
Parliament has all the powers to bring in laws to be clear on this. It was not up to courts to push them in that direction. As per usual politicians never step up to do something until they need to.
What is the punishment for a judge who breaks the rules?
Can they be fired?
If you'd read the ruling you'd see that a period of 3-4 days is normal to prepare for the Queen's speech and there's absolutely no reason why the government would need to prorogue for five weeks.
Appeal it to whom, exactly?
is that possible? do they have a privy council who listen to cases?
boris isn't leaving
He may not have a choice. There are powers for the goverment to be removed and a caretaker goverment to be installed. This ruling if ignored by Johnson makes that road possible for the Speaker.
This might actually have a silver lining. Can the opposition really refuse an election if Boris asked for one now? If they refuse, it means they are satisfied with keeping a man who they believe to be a criminal as PM.
The court ruling against him might also help boost Boris's "it's me vs. the establishment" image... assuming he doesn't resign or his own party doesn't now try to oust him.
The judges broke zero rules, from the ruling:
"The first question is whether the lawfulness of the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty is
justiciable. This Court holds that it is. The courts have exercised a supervisory jurisdiction over
the lawfulness of acts of the Government for centuries. As long ago as 1611, the court held that
“the King [who was then the government] hath no prerogative but that which the law of the land
Having watched American proceedings British ones seem like fucking clown school. This bitch Hale's only argument was "it's 5 weeks that's such a long time though!" yeah cunt great reasoning there. Who appointed these fucks?
I have no idea. They're as unknown as the EU commissioners. No one knew who the fuck they were until today, this entire "court" was created by Tony Blair.
overturning the biggest democratic vote ever held in this country
a victory for democracy
No seriously, kill yourself and rid us all of your idiocy.
Nothing ever happens.
So Judges are basing this on political bias. Take that out of the equation (as it should be) & based on pure law it was a an easy victory for the gov. The BS claim that a no deal was looming & Parliament (that had been in session for 2 years - the longest since the civil war) shows what Judges intentions were. It was clear that Scottish Remoaner Judges ruled that way. The SC simply did not want to argue with their friends.
Wouldn't it be easier if you guys just decided to remain in EU?
Absolutely no reason
This has been the second longest session of parliament in British history, and has dragged out to the point where it is no longer fit for purpose. 5 weeks wasn't long enough.
Can the opposition really refuse an election
In the short term yes. They can go for a caretaker goverment. Assuming Parliment can decide on a leader
The Queens speech justifies that pregation
Only in the case that the advice given to the queen on porogation was lawful, which in this instance the court ruled unlawful as the govt had not justified it in court.
The advice can't be justified by the speech which was justified by the advice. That's circular logic.
Soon to be known as Boris the Brief. Incompetence was never better represented.
U N A N I M O U S
Burgers will never know this feeling
Why fight against Remoan judges who are ruling on purely political grounds?
if king george was around today, he would have dissolve parliament and forced a no deal.
he knew a communist when he saw one.
You need decisions to legislate you are still a human?
Or at least, the UK should dissolve first, then England should make a modern constitution so that those silly games aren't being repeated, and then everybody looks forward.
Abolish the Supreme Court, Boris. Go on, you know you want to
They can go for a caretaker goverment.
Who has a shot at that though?
Corbyn can't get the LibDems on side, and I don't think that is suddenly going to change now. The Tory rebels have also ruled out making him PM.
How long before Boris Johnson resigns just to fuck shit up even more?
It shouldn't exist in the first place. Lib Dem Court of clowns.
The question is would the Queen have still given the OK if the PM had said Brexit needs to happen & a GE will sort it out, Parliament is holding up & is costing the country £billions in the meantime?
What vote was overturned again?
I love this brainlet-tier argumentation.
People voted for Brexit, therefore it's up to the government without any democratic oversight to just do whatever they want. Absolutely cucked lmao
BASED ON PURE LAW lol
48. That principle is not placed in jeopardy if Parliament stands prorogued for
the short period which is customary, and as we have explained, Parliament does not
in any event expect to be in permanent session. But the longer that Parliament stands
prorogued, the greater the risk that responsible government may be replaced by
unaccountable government: the antithesis of the democratic model.
The arguments about the legality of prorogation coming from two points.
1. That the length of time that parliament is prorogued for is excessive and so is being clearly done for personal political gain.
2. Boris has misled the queen about his justification for prorogation.
So basically if its judged that the queen used her authority based on false information, then the decision shouldn't hold up legally. Its not undermining the queen herself but in effect "undoing" an action that had already undermined her.
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Good thing you guys got rid of all your guns and butterknives and bicycle tires. Now sit back, relax and enjoy your bdsm fetishist / severed pig head fucking rulers torturing your country to final death, burying you under endless waves of Muslim immigrants and smearing your country’s rotten corpse in feces
Wouldn't it be easier if you necked yourself?
Just repeal article 50 to be done with Brexit.
So you hate republican-dominated supreme courts?
The referendum, which was for leaving the European Union. The decision is attempting to stop that from happening.
Which you know fine well. Stop playing dumb.
Would have been easier to have stuck with Chamberlain and surrendered to Hitler too. We don't take the easy routes, unlike you bum fuckers on the continent.
There's been constant talk that it should be the Father of the House. Which is currently Kenneth Clark, a hard remainer
excessive? parliament was due to shut down for 3 weeks anyway
who the fuck is this oxygen thief shouting shit like he acted like a dictator
It was like 5 days you fucking nonce.
we've beeing sitting through boring party conferences!
Who did not see that one coming, Brexit never stood a chance, we tried the ballot box, next time, however...
The government might be able to appeal to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council
The Queen does not decide on how long Parliament closes for. She simply has to agree for it to close. When has the Queen ever refused the closing of Parliament? A Queen speech was happening anyway & a GE would have made that happen as well. Brexit had nothing to do with the actual decision, no matter the biases of Remoan judges.
that mong speaking before just wants another referendum.
thats all this is about. fucking subversive kike hag
Looks like Corbyn has his Republic now.
Good. Fuck those worthless parasites.
So did anything happen or are they still just babbling?
Boris to prorogue parliament again on Friday?
Parliament votes for Article 50 by a massive margin
They agree (both major Parties have Manifestos that say Brexit should happen)
Even the Lib Dims said a Referendum should have occured back in the day & even after the Ref result happen it should be respected.
jump suit innit!
On the EU side, nothing so far will change. For the UK side, they can now keep talking about how to humiliate all the Tory PMs after another.
After they make Boris Johnson resign, they should then try to make Reese-Mogg the next prime minister, so that he too can be humiliated as the next impotent prime minister clown.
And after that, perhaps that Nigel guy as well.
now they want him to resign and call a new election.
So clearly he shouldn't then right?
British people.... concerned about their sovereignty...hahahaha
He will fuck the UK every day even if he dies
I don't see how he could stay. He did something illegal. Can't possibly rule anymore. Sounds like Borisxit is coming very soon.
Given the ruling it's hard to see how he can without going full Cromwell on Parliments ass. The ruling was as bad as it gets.
Corbyn's got nothing on Castro's trackie game.
That new EU President you are voting for is coming after your whole economy potato nigger.
Will Boris be guillotined?
Considering this is the elites will i doubt it
It's not a crime though.
Holy shit this is hypocrisy in the extreme
It's no wonder the Lib Dems are a dead party who never win power
the young brits have been pumped chock full of pro-eu propaganda
the EU fucks will make it so UK votes again
years and years of pro-EU propaganda pays off
UK is still part of third reich
A GE in the meantime
But the bill to bring forward a GE was rejected before the 10th September, so what would poroguing do in that situation?
If the intention was to porogue parliament to allow a queen's speech following a GE then surely the justification for the porogation is lost when there is no GE therefore the advice was unlawful.
He will upgrade when he makes himself Supreme Leader of the People's Republic of Britain
No the GE was there as an option for Parliament as prorogation was already happening. They also had the option to change the law on prorogation & they chose not to, instead bringing in BS legislation yet again to stop a PM from getting a deal. However the EU are so fed up of Parliament they are not going to give the UK an extension now.
Christ on a bike...
but I'm glad that after the guts of a millennium you have joined hands with your republican brothers and sisters and nationalist movements across the former british empire and realized that sovereignty is important ...granted its not entirely the same thing as you voted into the EU and hald of you still want to remain... but in principle you get it now.
This is legit one of the funniest things to have happened in world history. ...the birts are now whining about sovereignty.
Time to for bongs to guillotine parliament
We'll see what happens on Halloween. After that all bets are off.
They will have their chance when Parliament reconvenes tomorrow at 11:30am.
I wonder when Eire is simply a little offshore holding center for migrants that the Republicans there will be happy they said OK to the EU?
Look at this dirty whore, you know she's a sjw progressive "open-borders" type of person just by looking at her.
God damn. I feel terrible for Britain more than ever. I mean damn.
A caliphate state indentured to the EU where the minority population is the native inhabitants. Please don't go
Sovereignty belongs to those that are strong enough to keep it.
There are only a very select few sovereign states in the world. Ireland isn't one and neither is Australia.
Evidently, the great trouble the UK is having leaving the EU means that it's questionable if they are sovereign either. The nominal sovereign doesn't seem to give a toss about their country and is more interested in what her Rothschild financeer tells her and members of her family flying on the Lolita Express.
The absolute hypocrisy of Guy Voorhees.
You lot won't ever revolt, you'll take it up the arse forever.
I say instead we get together and suck each others cocks. Fuck my shitter.
An island will.....
just skimming this summary i think the problem was that it wasn't well justified. If the government were to properly justify it by saying that many of the MPs and Lords want to delay brexit and cause general mayhem to stop it from happening and that's why we want to prorogue would that be justifiable then?
Sovereignty is an illusion. You need fair trade to survive which implies playing by the same rules.
Conservatives are in government and have majority in both houses. Why can't they pass a law to ban migration or leave EU? Because they don't want to, since American bankers might lose money.
A currency that can be readily bought or sold without government restrictions,
The most convertible currency is the U.S. dollar. It is the most traded currency in the world, central banks hold the U.S. dollar as their main reserve, and a number of asset classes are denominated in U.S. dollars meaning payment and settlements are made in U.S. dollars
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is an international organization headquartered in Washington, D.C., of "189 countries working to foster global monetary cooperation
The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization
Headquarters New York City
Headquarters Washington, D.C., U.S.
At least half of all business contracts in London, that is 200 trillion is 100% just pure dollar:
Some US$200trillion(5) of financial contracts reference US$Libor.
Other part is just dollar hidden behind euro and other currencies. Only dollar is used in international business. UK is completely owned by Americans and their UN imports refugees, so they can sell more products and have more indebted people.
Why don't they want to leave EU? Because they lose 30 trillion in banks.
Government was arguing that it wasn't a matter for the courts in the first place, so they didn't need to justify it.
They severely underestimated the courts ability to rule on anything that has even the slightest chance of increasing it's power.
or would the supreme court still say that oh no that's still wrong because they are elected members and lords and what they say goes despite the mandate given to the tory party and bojo when they won the election after brexit and the leadership challenge respectively?
duh Qween didn't understand even though every action was legal
wtf is that dude yelling in the background of the live stream?
he's a persistent fk
No, because the judges are all remainers appointed by Blair way back when. They'll just claim "political bias" again.
Conservatives are in government and have majority in both houses
They don't, they're pretty much held hostage in their own Parliament while the Opposition majority pass laws to delay Brexit.
this is a slippers slope. look at (). They are venturing into turf that isn't theirs.
What general election did bojo win?
May won, now its time for a new one shill who hides behind the meme flag of israel
That's the issue, they can't justify porouging parliament so close to the bexit deadline for more than a few days (as that's the usual amount of time to prepare for a queen's speech), and they can't use the real reason, which is to force through no deal, as it's clear Johnson doesn't care about a new deal at all
German press is jubilant
tl;dr the socialist niggers aka Scotland ruled it illegal. I can't wait for them to be kicked out both the EU and Commonwealth. Fucking traitors.
You do realise Bojo WANTS a GE and the opposition aren't letting him have one because they know the'll lose?
Guy VerCuckstadt and the EU are entirely undemocratic in it's fucking construction.
They don't want to force a no deal though.
They can just as easily say that they don't want to weaken their negotiating position with the EU by having these rabble-rouser's passing laws that remove the threat/leverage of no deal.
In my mind that's perfectly justifiable.
Wow, it's almost as if they're not dumb enough to fall for an obvious trap
Well Boris is a buffoon so they laugh.
if they have a GE now regardless of who wins they would have gotten yet another extension. (EU said they will 1 more extension if there is an election). So if Johnson just sits still and survives Brexit will happen
It's almost like they don't actually give a shit about 'muh democracy'
appeal the decision, take it to the eu court, hang it out for as long as possible, after glorious Brexit day we're no longer in the eu, so the ruling won't matter.
It's almost like the krauts depend on Britain remaining for their mass automobile export market, otherwise their economy falls into recession.
Boris has done nothing wrong, the entire left are working together to undermine the vote & anti-brexit cuckservatives in the party are basically lefties.
Yes they absolutely do, why else do you think Johnson had to lie to the queen to silence parliament before the deadline? Why do you think he has done no real negotiations with the EU but has claimed he had made great strides in negotiating a new deal? Why else would the fucker need to lie about it unless he wants to force though no deal because him and his goons all have money backed on the UK economy going tits up after Brexit.
I just had to turn BBC News off.
A general election after the 31st of October has passed, and the UK is still within the EU, and must remain in it until after the 31s of January 2020, so that many rich brits lose lots of money when they have to declare where they hid their money is fine then.
Afterwards, the UK can start eating its own citizens, as nobody will care.
appeal the decision,
appeal to who. there is no higher court. The Law Lords is the end of the road
Has done nothing wrong
He lied to the queen to have her use her authority to silence parliament so he can force through what he wants rather than the government being able to hold him to account
you're just spouting memes now
If bojo wants one he could do it
Proroguing is because he has 8 billion pounds riding on fucking Britain over
It's not their own Parliament. The executive is inferior to Parliament, and only gets its way under normal circumstances due to holding a majority.
Britain is full of pedos.
If bojo wants one he could do it
Under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 he cannot.
I want to leave the EU, but I want to stay until the end of January just to see all these rich cunts finally get what's coming to them
He's already demonstrated his pakihood care for the law
Johnson literally lied to the queen
Johnson has claimed to make great progress on a new deal dispite the EU revealing that he's done fuck all
But yeah, I guess he didn't lie
Not true. All high judges were appointed during Conservative time.
The Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales is the Head of the Judiciary of England and Wales and the President of the Courts of England and Wales.
Lord Burnett of Maldon (Lord Burnett) 2 October 2017 Incumbent
Keeper or Master of the Rolls and Records of the Chancery of England, known as the Master of the Rolls, is the President of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales
Sir Terence Etherton 3 October 2016 Incumbent Chancellor of the High Court, 2013–2016
The President of the Queen's Bench Division is the head of the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court of Justice.
January 2016 Dame Victoria Sharp
The President of the Family Division is the head of the Family Division of the High Court of Justice in England and Wales and Head of Family Justice.
11 January 2013: Sir James Munby
The Chancellor of the High Court is the head of the Chancery Division of the High Court of Justice of England and Wales.
24 October 2016: Sir Geoffrey Vos
11 May 2010 Conservative
24 July 2019 Conservative
He's already demonstrated his pakihood care for the law
He cannot just force parliament into an election. They can just install a Cartaker goverment. Too many in this thread seem to think PM is like a US president. The PM has less power than people think.
Power exists in what you take and what others give
Boris showed his Russian roots and rightfully took power
Imagine if May had done this for her deal and rammed it through
Would you be so loving
What the fuck are you even talking about
John Bercow just gave a speech two minutes ago. He says that the House of commons will be back tomorrow at 11:30. They aren't even waiting to be recalled.
The Speaker can recall parliament, it's not up to the government.
Berscow orders parliament to return as soon as tomorrow.
It's over for Boris.
Meme flags are kike shills, they speak true lies.
EU has already said its a cooommmeerrrsss dick exit now.
If I remember correctly he tried to get an election & the entire left refused to have an election. If you have not noticed we are in a stalemate until an election happens.
I thought the Queen is the law. This sounds like career suicide for the judges unless they come up with the reason that now accuser has provided wrong information
Stalemates are great
No more nanny state
Republican Jesus said so
This only sounds like career suicide if you know nothing of the law.
They are trying to force a Cartaker goverment. As the most likely leader of that will be Kenneth Clark, who is a massive pro European
And that means he's done nothing wrong how? The left don't want an election until parliament is back and no deal is off the table, they're not falling for such an obvious trap
wouldn't it lead to more politician stubbing stubbing?
Election has nothing to do with Brexit, since Brexit was already decided, it's already a law, courts don't matter, article 50 was invoked.
You dumb limey cunts need to drive a cromwell through the supreme court for this atrocious shit. Your Judiciary has NO POWER over your legislative.
Well so much for the fucking democracy argument then!
Johnson is not going anywhere. Also apart from these faggot lefties everyone love Johnson & will win the election.
Thankfully the government isn't in the legislative branch but the executive instead.
finna dab on Boris
lefties in the Parliament are trying to block it.
Article 50 can be withdrawn
And screenshot this
It will be
So that way the Brits can say it was mean EU that kicked them out and deal with their choice
Set a time for november 14th to see this again
next time, however...
Juncker has to say he agrees and he did on many occasions, it is UK who doesn't wants to leave.
What are they going to recall parliament for other than to make twats of themselves again.
Nah, they will just get Brexit in name only, just like May tried to push through
That makes Bojangles 0-7
WINNING, how do we sack him?
Johnson is not going anywhere
It's moving to a point where he may not have a say in the matter. If Berscow walks in tomorrow and holds goverment in grand contempt there can be a VONC on the goverment. Due to the FPA of 2011 rather than having an election they have the chance of installing a cartaker goverment.
Oh the crashout will happen
There will just be blame shifting for the eternal anglo
Its hard time
2 days to get a deal through EU
Who dismantled the negotiations in July
What are you talking about, Johnson fucking lied to the queen so that he could silence parliament and prevent them from holding him to account, he is the one who tried to undermine democracy to push his own political and economic goals
Johnson asks for an extension like a complete cuck then tops himself in a ditch
dirty rich cunts BTFO
Labour win the general election
they negotiate a customs union only deal and put it to the public
leave wins again, and we leave
no more cooperation with Israel, Saudi, America, etc.
inbred Eton posh boy benders BTFO
Blair, Campbell, Watson, etc., keep appearing on TV crying about far-left extremists for years afterwards
I've cum a bollock just thinking about it.
Ask the rune stone and you shall know when a goat pulls a cart before you child sorrow of stories
Nah, Boris has to ask for an extension now, and they'll give us one as the don't want us to leave. There will be a new referendum and regardless of what the actual vote is, remain will win and article 50 will be revoked
UK's politicians are basically trying to write a new Article 50, where it says that UK can't leave, even when this should be job of EU.
Why would they give one when they said nope already?
Are you hedging so hard with that ship in a bathtub dad?
They think they matter
You will accept the May deal with Brexit in name only. Expecting things to be done by the book is laughable and/or autistic.
Why are British pussies?
No other European country would accept women overthrowing democracy, except for britons.
No other European country would have been more submissive and docile than the British white men.
You have richest history out of any country and look at you now! Poor little cucks who can't even defend your shity democracy.
For article 50 to be changed all member states have to re-ratify it.
They're only saying no to appear unbending, but Germany needs the UK to stay or they'll go into recession, they'll grant us an extension, but they'll act like they did it begrudgingly
Is that like when a mafia don gets annoyed and sends in "the caretakers" ?
What's bad about recession? That's great, less migrants, less migrant economy, it's like less pollution, less need for pollution management business.
Democracy was already overthrown when Boris lied to the queen to have parliament silenced so that they couldn't hold him to account.
Furthermore, the stockmarket is crashing now since UK will never leave EU.
Wouldn't it be easier if you didn't look like Mongolian
We’re the only Europeans even attempting to leave you Nordcuck faggot
Stay seething and obsessed, bootlickers
Germany needs the UK to stay
Can you please fuck off today?
or they'll go into recession
We are in a Jap style recession. 3% unemployment, anaemic growth because our working age population is rapidly shrinking despite immigration from the East. Brexit won’t affect us one bit because the day after Brexit some emergency rule is put in place to keep tariffs at 0 both ways. I mean if Canada, Morocco and Mexico has 0 tariffs with the EU, the idea there should be tariffs with the UK is ridiculous.
I don't want Germany to have a recession as they'll likely drag down the rest of Europe with them, the last recession gave the UK a Tory government and almost a decade of austerity, why would I ever want that?
Every other EU country that has held referendums over various issues that went against he will of the EU has been bullied into reholding it over and over till the EU got the result they wanted. Only the UK has fought against the EU this hard.
eats own vegetable and fruit
Stock what? Oh, the consumer cuck worries.
Funny how much illegal employing IT industry cares about stocks, like if stocks mean anything good for legal natives.
Hold him account to what? Making sure that he doesn't leave EU as promised in Article 50 3 years ago?
You fucking cuck, shitcountry. I hope you understand that you are the biggest cuck country in the world. YOU ARE WORSE THAN SWEDEN, NETHERLANDS, BELGIUM, GERMANY AND FRANCE. Nobody respect you!
A hung parliament. Every last one of them.
I was honest. Where is your argument? You really think there will be high tariffs between the EU and UK after Brexit? Really??
You gave Germany a predetermined kill switch the second you didn't adopt euro and EU gave itself a kill switch the second it didn't ban dollars. So no worries, it was meant to be. EU was always planned to be exploitation of Europe so USA can save its ass one more time with their failed capitalism. Why do you think they sell weapons to Saudis? Because else they going to have a war industry recession, it's all about money, better the failed capitalism is sooner dead than later.
You will never leave EU since you are not willing to fight the elite. You are not willing to fight the elite women that just overthrew democracy.
u wot m8
parliament is merely the organ of indirect will of the people
the plebiscite is the direct expressed will.
The parliament is subject to that
A fucking spider.
Sounds very cope tier
The same can be said on any interest in Brexit by the people
why is there a huge spider on her shoulder?
this is evil right there
Hold him to account for him trying to force the UK to crash out of the EU so him and his mates can profit off of the bets they've placed against the UK economy and so that they don't have to pay their fair tax when the EU starts hammering down on them
the law which is written exactly nowhere
Unwritten law is still law.
The parliament is only democracy(people) when they adopt people's decision in split second people decided something, meaning they should have prepared law for agreement and disagreement vote of people.
Democracy (Greek: δημοkρατία dēmokratía, literally "rule by people"),
Else you aren't democracy. We place trust in parliament or senate to do exactly as people voted, but they don't do that, meaning we don't have democracy. It's a stupid idea anyway to have such a system, people should directly decide laws, not politicians. Every town should vote with 100% of people what they want and they should also force children to learn that in school. These parliament "democracy" people don't even understand own laws and they like to keep people dumb. There's too many laws.
I could replace whole criminal law with couple of sentences:
- if you don't have written permission to have a pen or anything not bought by you, then you are guilty. If you kill somebody then you are guilty, doesn't matters how it happened.
Please explain why the pund is deteriorating after these news? It was an all time high before this shit conclusion. The british economy was in fact booming, but now it is getting destroyed.
No seriously investor bet against valuta, since it is empirically impossible predicate their future value. YOU JUST FUCKED UP YOUR ECONOMY
Why is she not at conference?
but parliament isn't doing its job
Oh man, could you imagine if legal scholars were nearly as smart as you...
Just to think, you can solve all legal problems wiht just a few sentences, amazing...Woah...Balkan intelligence is so high...
Parliament's job is to have a job(money). Politicians should be working for free, getting food and shelter only, so they do it for country alone.
Yes, i could solve illegals very fast, we can solve it tomorrow:
- people owners vote, they decide what they want to eat or produce, meaning bosses don't decide and you have 0 migrants, because there's no need to pray to stupid Jew gods and gamble in economy with economic growth to cover your loans and debt.
when your press is so crooked they literally laugh in the headline when things go against the will of the people
what the fuck
probably visitin israel innit
Unwritten constitutions are superior
Another day, another Lib spazzout over the very fact that people with the temerity to disagree with her insist on continuing to brazenly still exist.
Muh will of the people
The will of a third 3 years ago in a campaign that would have been deemed illegal had it been legally binding, but sure
This sickness has infected you too. Gods help us all. This will end in blood.
But officially, she was "mislead"
Replace officially with "technically."
Your statement implies that the Queen subsequently made that judgement, which is NOT true.
I know I am just a Yank, but I feel the Queen, in her centuries long knowledge of the royal power, decided to let Boris exercise his rights, and let the whole thing hash out according to the original brexit vote. The voters and their politicians should rise or fall under the ultimate consequences of that vote. Boris has a shit job to do, but Cameron and May ran like rats away from the responsibility.
Btw what is Theresa May's job now? She should receive a bill for Brexit delay, we are market economy after all.
The will of a third
the referendum had a higher turnout than your national elections and the majority of the votes were in favor of Brexit. fuck off with your bullshit rhetoric
a campaign that would have been deemed illegal had it been legally binding
both sides campaigned to have their position known to the public beforehand. only one side had establishment and mass media support. that was not the Brexit side
nigel farage @ 9:31AM tweets - thank baby jesus the guy giving me a lot of money has been cleared so i can keep getting money.
nigel farage @ 11:01AM tweets - fuck the only person trying to deliver a no deal brexit and the will of the people.
Shes back to mp
Gtfo Pekka, you're as Mongolian as Elizabeth Warren
Doesn't matter it was still only a third of the electorate, you can't know what the will of the people was based on that. And that doesn't matter, the tactics used by leave like the NHS bus were deemed illegal had it been a legally binding referendum
It has been an oligarchy for 75 years; it’s just being laid bare now.
the parliament is just a clearing house for the peoples will as matter of convenience
Greeks form of democracy is far removed from ours is it not useful to make to strong a precedent.
Doesn't matter it was still only a third of the electorate
i guess elections should just not count anymore since it's not the majority of the electorate
Wow, it's almost as if Farage has always been a self serving cunt who is only interested in what will benefit him, rather than the people. He should have died in that plane crash
Imagine, if you will, delivering an ultimatum made enforceable by nothing more than the threat of pouty faces. Imagine, if you will, that ultimatum ever being anything but roundly ignored. Imagine, if you will, being british.
The biggest flaw of election democracy is for politicians to think that they are still elected after not fulfilling obligations. As matter of fact a well-run election democracy should have a bullet point paper of what political party wants to accomplish and they should be automatically fired by computer when they don't do that, so everybody elected should lose their job.
No, they won the referendum, I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing that leave is the will of the people, you can't know that because there is no majority
Don't forget Blair's eminence grise Lord Hamsterbum!
go back to pakistan, sand nigger
Have the queens people made a statement yet?
Is her maj gonna cuck out to the court she appointed and may overrule... is this a coup?
boris knows this. he is crashing this plane with no survivors
The queen is the monarch and the monarch is the ultimate power in the UK. We're a constitutional monarchy above all else and under that the queen has set up a representative democracy, every single aspect of parliament, the government and all the courts and legal systems exist only because she allows them to exist. She can dissolve parliament at any time and dissolve any of the courts at any time.
I'm actually kind of hoping that the queen steps in at this point and prorogues parliament again simply because they overturned her decision. Remember it's only the queen that can do this, the request comes from the PM but it's merely a request, the power lays with the queen, not with Boris. She's meant to stay out of political debates but she's very likely to be upset that her ruling was overturned. The good thing about the queen is that's she's above all criminal and civil law, so she can basically do whatever the fuck she wants and the courts can't do shit to her, and if they try she can simply disband them for interfering with her powers.
Is her maj gonna cuck out to the court she appointed and may overrule
The queen has limited powers. She listens to the privy council. The highest court of the land is the House of Lords.
She can dissolve parliament at any time
No she can't. That power and others were removed under the PA of 2011
thats the "conventional" wisdom until now
The queen very well knows that if she actually tries to step into governmental dealings, the UK will be a representative democracy before the day is out.. You gravely, gravely overestimate the power the Queen has and she certainly can't do any of the things you think she can.
Elizabeth II is mommy in house(parliament) and you have to go there as a good son to get approval if you can go play with your friends.
picture related Boris Johnson
Here, let me help for the slow of thinking like yourself - 1) prorogation was illegal. 2) prorogation was annulled. This means 3) Parliament was never actually closed (legally) which means that it doesn't formally need to be recalled because (legally) it's still sitting.
No Queen's Speech, no PM authorisation. The MPs just turn up and get on with their jobs.
And when i say "representative democracy" i actually mean republic.
yes she can you dumb cunt. the PA os 2011 says nothing of the sort, fuck off.
overestimate? the Queen is supreme power of this nation. our armed forces swear allegiance to HER not this country. she has the power to order an entire country nuked off the face of this earth at any time she desires. overestimate? you're full of shit.
The MPs just turn up and get on with their jobs.
If they had been doing their jobs then brexit would be a lot further forward.
Yeah except she doesn't, this is some LARP-tier comedy.
Although i can understand that constitutional law isn't easy to comprehend when you didn't finish primary school.
The highest court of the land is the House of Logs.
Oh christ, now I am beginning to be sympathetic to Corbyn.
A VONC simply puts them into a position of trying to form an interim government for which there is no majority and so in that case it would fall back to a GE which the con government already ask for and the MPs rejected. And triggering a GE at this stage would shut down parliament for a good 2 weeks at the very least anyway and there's no time for that to all happen before Brexit now, at least not and have any kind of additional meaningful discussion.
So I don't think they'll bother to go down that route. It's kinda pointless anyway, right now the problem is the government do not hold a majority in parliament and that means they cannot pass votes. At the end of the day it comes down to a vote between the MPs that hold the power to take action, the government has no ability to over rule or veto if the majority of MPs go against them on anything.
Another GE will have no majority it will be a deadlock between Labour and Cons who will both lose significant number of voters. And Lib Dems and Brexit party who will surge. The best we could hope for is a Brexit party and Con coalition, which Nigel has already kind of hinted at.
Otherwise the next best thing is probably that we cross our fingers and hope the EU says fuck off another extension. At which point we're forced into a "deal or no deal" situation and we end the squabbling.
yes she can you dumb cunt. the PA os 2011 says nothing of the sort, fuck off. the Queen is supreme power of this nation
I think you need to go do some reading. It's embarassing seeing non bongs have a stronger grasp of parliamentary law than a native bong.
Part 3 of the Constitutional Reform Act 2005, which came into force on 1 October 2009, abolished the appellate jurisdiction of the House of Lords, and transferred it to a new body, the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.
you keep throwing wiki buzzwords out like you have a clue. there Queen, right now, could order a nuclear attack on France and it'd be done within minutes. you thinking that she is just a figurehead is fucking laughable. did your senpai just arrive on a boat or something?
my understanding of the power the queen actual has was the subject of my dissertation lad(passed with honors), i'm well aware of just how much power that little old lady has.
the Queen is supreme power of this nation
Parliament is sovereign, you ignorant little cunt.
This is largley semantics and has more to do with codify the Lords role as the Highest court. They are called the Law 'Lords' for a reason. The supreme court are made up of Lords.
In a speific conext, hes not wrong. The Democrats, EU commies , corrupt uk officials are part of the same oligarchy
In 2005 Parliament passed the Constitutional Reform Act which, for the first time in constitutional history, provided for the separation of the Appellate Committee (supreme court) from the legislature (Parliament) and the executive (Government).
just shut up you fucking dickhead. the Queen is above parliament. the clue is them having to ask for her permission to enact anything. holy shit.
The Lords are separate from the legislature and executive. It's the role of the House of Lords to be so.
but you are wrong, since Lords aren't judges any longer:
New judges appointed to the Supreme Court will not be given peerages.
I'm for Brexit, but this is COPE