REPORT: Every Branch Is Ordering the Modular Handgun System

I own both a P320 and a Glock 19. They are both reliable, and neither is garbage. These fanboy squabbles that pop up on Jow Forums are fucking retarded, just like the two of you.

what does Delta use?

They already have with the trigger update. Your days are over, glockboy.

>no one can possibly not like the glock!
>muh glick is the best!

WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH ALL MY GLOCK 19'S, WTF I HATE THE US MILITARY NOW!!!

Whatever they want. Some still use P226's, HK45's, and 1911's.

I just want the P320 to be successful because glockfags have become so asshurt over the whole thing. And I own a 19, 32, 43, and the P320

USSOCOM still uses Glocks.
The correct answer to the MHS question was to just drop the whole program and adopt the M9A3.
Pistols are so irrelevant to modern combat that they could go back to issuing SAAs and it wouldn't matter.

I still hate that DOD still mandates manual safeties.

WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THE MILTARY!?!
>diversity
>trannies
>absolute joke SOF
Holy fucking shit, we just throw trillions of dollars in the dumpster fire that is the DOD and THIS is what we get?!?

We're gonna need legit COMMISSARS to root out the sheer cancer that has taken over, the DOD needs a End of Evangelion NERV Purge and every cent of taxpayer money refunded by Sig Sauer and Lockheeb.

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Well lets be honest. Forget the M9A3, just a large replacement of regular M9s would have more than sufficed.

The M9s all need to be replaced anyway, and stuff like light rails, threaded barrels, and Vertec grips for women and manlets are all sensible upgrades.

>glad they decided not to drop the SIG
fixed it for you.

Glocks
gunsholstersandgear.com/2011/09/12/delta-force-and-the-glock/
No one uses the 1911 except for Marine Force Recon and others who got MARSOC leftovers when they ditched them

>SIG run by former IDF
>get contract by selling basically at a lose
>already running into problems
>skipped most of the actual trials
>literally only did a fraction of the testing that the M9 and 226 when through
someone Generals got some cushy jobs lined up at SIG after retirement, I tell you what.

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hehehehehehe

>gunsholstersandgear.com/2011/09/12/delta-force-and-the-glock/

Reminder that Delta went with 40sw

>Marine Force Recon
pfft

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Yeah, if they dropped the SIG it would've ND'd into their foreheads

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WHY NOT .357 SIG
FUCK

>why not a meme round with the capacity of a .40 and the terminal ballistics of +P 9mm

god who gives a fuck about butterbar sidearms
they dont even know how to wipe their own ass, no one is giving them a pistol in the cockpit
im never buying a sig or a glock regardless

I'm well aware we buy trash, and brute force it until it works, thats exactly what i'm saying.

fuck sig and fuck glock equally, m9s just needed new barrels and we were gucci

your frame of reference is fucked cuz they both succ

>M9A3
press F for pay respec

they look like hammerless 1911s in that photo.

now you know why they won the contract

rekt

I think we can agree that 10mm shits on both.
I'd take 1600fps +P .357 sig over ~1000fps .40 short and weak any day, though.
200 ft.-lbs advantage out of 4" barrel is nothing to scoff at (not to mention its even higher at 6")

Didn’t take long for an asshurt glockfag to show up.

>sell at a loss
>jew memes

Does not compute.

ALAS WE AM SLAIN

>M9 and 226 had 35k round endurance tests
>SIG only goes through 12k
>skill all the cold weather and harsh condition testing
>selling them at a unit cost of like $210, barely above cost
>already running into issues causing the paper thin margins to shrink
They got the contract to spur civilian sales because MUH NEW ARMY PISTOL.
Did anyone really take the 320 seriously before the MH17 adoption? I remember thinking they just look like airsoft toys.
I heard from people hear that gun shops couldn't keep 320's on the shelf after the news broke.

>7n21 +p+ not being more than enough for EDC
If you having NIJ problem, I fell bad for you, son...

>Did anyone really take the 320 seriously before the MH17 adoption?
It was just another not-a-Glock, like the M&P and XD.

A3 was actually cheaper to buy than m9s, not quite sure how they managed that.
>i have no clue what im talking about, the post

Late stage, my dude. We are in decline. A society like our has a shelf life of 250 years, and were 242 years towards expiration.

I think it’s one of the better looking not-a-glocks though. My favorite not-a-Glock as far as looks is still the Px4.

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fpbp

The PX4 is hammer fired though, so it's not really a glock clone like say, the APX.

I guess it’s varying degrees of notaglock. Still a polymer 9. (Actually the 45 in my case.) I like the looks of the APX too, I’ll probably pick one of those up someday.

The Px4 is massively underappreciated.
If they made one that was the same height and length as a Glock 19, I'd probably carry one of those instead.

Teams purchase their own kits, all custom tuned and developed. Nobody uses the stock stuff/

Reminder that they “officially” use Glock and actually carry whatever pistol they want.

What's the point of the rubber banded mags?...

less battle rattle maybe

To make sure they don't fall off the rifle and get lost, same reason you'd dummy-cord anything else.

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ya know whats really cool? Just like the 1911 before it, the M9 shit and eventually the P320 shit will become public domain. And just like the AR and the 1911 are basically "open source" platforms, the aforementioned modern replacement pistols will eventually be, too :)
cuz now that i think about it glock can probably sue out of existence the people making 80% glock lowers.
huh. a glock built from an 80% lower isnt just a ghost gun, its a ghost pirate gun. think about it.

>ya know whats really cool? Just like the 1911 before it, the M9 shit and eventually the P320 shit will become public domain. And just like the AR and the 1911 are basically "open source" platforms, the aforementioned modern replacement pistols will eventually be, too :)

Everything does, don't have to be US military just for it to become public domain.

So does this mean every service member will now carry?
Or only ones whose job requires it?

no, more like a 1:1 swap of all the currently issued m9s to people in the same positions. officers, vehicle crews.

every service has adopted it

but service members still only get one if there job requires it.

They're also going to issue them all the way don to the team leader level, apparently.
military.com/daily-news/2017/11/29/us-army-field-new-sidearm-down-team-leader-level.html

No it's understandable that someone might not like a glock but you're obviously trolling because you don't have arguments

Has anyone even killed an enemy combatant with a sidearm, in recent memory? Serious question

You dumb, the answer is yes

I meant a US troop. Not Somalia, where you are at.

The benefit of .40 S&W over 9mm is the heavier bullets that have extra momentum for smashing through intermediate barriers like bones and auto glass.
The benefit of .357 SIG over 9mm and .40 is.... what?
It doesn't actually duplicate 125-grain .357 Mag because the bullet construction is different, it's exceptionally loud and flashy even with flash-suppressed powders, its medium-weight-for-caliber bullets interact with intermediate barriers about the same as modern 9mm JHPs do, the idea that it feeds more reliably than straight-walled cartridges is interesting, but properly-lubed pistols barely ever fail to chamber anyway, etc. etc. etc.

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>they were too afraid to drop the Sig
ftfy

Ok. I understand now

When I expressed interest in a 10mm auto version of the Hudson H9, InRangeTV told me "we keep hearing people wanting a 10mm variant but we don't know why, there's no market in the 10mm."

Shouldn't take a genius to see what's wrong with that sentence.

how would you even prove that?

you'd have to crawl through after action reports. have fun.

it's not that great an argument either. you could make similar for have the systems in the inventory really, including nukes. as an emergency back up, they exist in the chance you have to use them, because it's still better to have them or not. so pilots get issued them too, even though they're not planning on being shot down over enemy territory. what is more, the compact version was aquired for individuals who would need to conceal them as part of their mission, so they would have literally nothing else if things went sideways.

I think the Px4 compact is pretty close. I’m not sure though, I’ve got the full size.

I don't have a problem with this. I have two pistols, a Glock 17 Gen 4 and a Colt 1911 (Kongsberg version).

Any military and LE should use the best tool for the job. Never let brand loyalty stop you from getting just that.

I'd also like to add that competition drives innovation. This might force other manufacturers to re-think a couple of things.

The only reason I'd have an issue with it is if corruption was involved, and it wasn't actually chosen because it was the best.

[Lockheed scandal intensifies]

The Compact is like a 26 slide on a 19 frame, and accordingly can't fit normal weaponlights like the X300U.

10mm fans are a vocal minority, but they're a minority.

I ain't even mad. I'm just impressed that the soldier was smart enough to know which end mated up with the receiver.

That's a fair point, actually. Thought didn't even cross my mind when I wrote that.

Because you autists asking for 10mm never fucking buy them once they're made.

So are people who want a flat-shooting 15-round 9mm (but not a Glock 19 with a comp).
Hudson are already making a niche product, they should be open to expanding that niche in any direction they can.
Besides, 10mm has enough recoil that the mechanical recoil mitigation of the H10 would actually be worthwhile.

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The FBI sure wasn't

It's called "priming the pump;" they produce & sell a more expensive product to solve whatever problems they intentionally put into the last product. It's like you don't even know how to wring your hands and cackle avariciously.

>every team leader gets a sidearm
Jesus Christ, *why* would DoD do that? They are RIFLEMEN, not Military Police or Adjutants. That weight would be better invested in a couple of extra magazines & ammunition for their rifle (not to mention to monetary cost of issuing 1 out of ever 4 soldiers an expensive polymer pistol).

Oh, there is definitely graft afoot.
>not at all surprising

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Do SiGs not have drop safeties or is this just a meme? I know the Glock exploding one is just a meme, so I wanna know if SiG is getting shit on appropriately or not.

I own a 10mm.

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all sf get to pick what they want instead of standard issue

The P320 isn't drop-safe, but the M17 is.

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So? It's not like I fuck the filthy pornstars I message to do filthy things on camera. If the manufacturers are gullible enough to listen to our suggestions, they deserve what happens. I'll be back: going to think about ordering that 10mm Ruger SR-1911 again, and then just buy an old, abused 10mm Witness Hunter for 0.1BTC from a private seller anyway.
>if you can't tell, this post is a work of fiction intended to amuse
>not amuse you
>amuse me
>i am amused

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>the military is bad at weapons provisioning, news at 11

Lets talk about the few times they got it right... The 1914, 1917, and the Ar-15. Everything else was not the best option available, and was chosen out of political expedience. Nothing to be proud of.

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>If the manufacturers are gullible enough to listen to our suggestions, they deserve what happens.
But that makes them less willing to listen to good suggestions like HEY S&W MAKE A 15-SHOT .22LR X-FRAME

Not a meme then. Oof.

youtube.com/watch?v=W8Oz6krEH_I
>and to think this was in the running for my next purchase

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The M16 was chosen as a stopgap until SPIW produced something usable.
It was never intended to be our primary service rifle for 50+ years.

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The M17 has a 200% ejection rate.

I was larping, and, in fairness, Ruger actually fucking answered my hail mary suggestion email from last decade for an eight-round .357 Redhawk with a 5.5 inch barrel, unfluted cylinder and wooden grips, which I am *totally* fucking buying. Seriously: this is my next firearm.
>tfw new ruger redhawk model # 5060

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Maybe, but just because something wasn't intended to be something doesn't mean it can't be.