I've browsed Jow Forums for quite some time now and will always run into an info-graphic or two. As helpful as they might seem I'm more interested in seeing a robust, peer reviewed study that supports the ideas that firearms are a benefit to society.
Anti gunners do not care about facts, only feelings. It is a waste of your time.
Andrew Powell
I remember when we made this poster. Were you OP?
Chase Martinez
I don't think this is true. There are those that aren't capable of being convinced but there are plenty more reasonable folks out there.
Anyway, this thread isn't really for those people. I just want to see some studies first hand to back up a lot of the claims that I happen to make.
Ian Jenkins
No, but I was there for when those threads were happening. Good times eh?
Nicholas Bennett
>there are plenty more reasonable folks out there. Yeah, and they're not pro- or anti- anything they don't understand, because they're reasonable. Antigunners are either unreasonable or malevolent, there is no argument that can persuade them.
It isn't ethnic cleansing if they're the ones doing the killing.
Easton Nguyen
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR
Jk, equally poor whites don't commit crime at that rate. It's because they're low iq monkeys. It's because their women are sluts that breed with dead beats, so the children grow up without dad's. And their culture worships thugs and frowns on actual success
Jacob Morales
Whoops I misunderstood. Yeah there's nothing wrong with the trash taking itself out
Charles Gonzalez
Pretty good metasource for BTFOing many gun control arguments
The book “More Guns, Less Crime” by John Lott is made up of his studies which made it through peer review. It’s awesome.
Ian Taylor
Very good. Glad to see there is some good support for the 2nd amendment on campus. You might want to add that privately own battleships were very common during the writing of the amendment, and the fact that the CDC estimates 500,000 to 3 million uses of firearms in self defense and only 300,000 uses of firearms in violent crimes so its clear that taking guns away would cause more crime in the US.
The paper already talks about gun free zones some, but I always like to bring up the fact that enforcing a gun free zone on campus is literally impossible unless you have guards and metal detectors stationed at the entrances of every building which is obviously too expensive to ever happen. The only difference is people have a false sense of security.
Josiah Davis
Yeah. The cost is obviously a factor, but practical monetary concerns won't convince them that making campuses gun free is a bad idea. You have to use appeals to emotion like female students getting raped or sexually assaulted because they are defenseless.
Not to get off topic, but I tried to keep the issue afloat over at Jow Forums where that other thread was moved from Jow Forums, and, well, it fell on dead ears there.
We need a "Gun Politics Containment Thread" just like the "AR Containment Thread" here on Jow Forums, or else we'll keep getting political threads when we just wanna talk about boomsticks here (although the laws relate to that, thus this suggestion).
May we thusly do?
>one single gun politics general thread on Jow Forums at any given time when?
Honestly I would challenge the idea that firearms must be beneficial to society by some empirical standpoint, you shouldn't have to have a reason for the right to own something, the government should have a reason to take it away.
Look at the survey conducted by the CDC under Obama, I believe it reported at least 60,000 defensive use of firearms per year (this is the lowest estimate).
>^original thread which my thread referred to Yeah, it totally got sent by the mods to Jow Forums to die. Just sayin', it looks like we need *one* gun politics thread on Jow Forums at all times, much like the ar general & brg threads, because these are all topics which we are very vocal and care to talk about here.
>Fuck off back to r/guns queer we can talk about politics as much as we like here. Literally read the sticky, this isn't 2013 anymore
Josiah Walker
Yeah but that rule is gay and unconstitutional.
Josiah Williams
unironically a shit study, don't have to be a gun grabber to see the various issues relating to unreliable county level data and rural state(pro CCW) vs more urban state(negative CCW) issues seriously confounding his results if not rendering them meaningless.