Scout Rifles

Does anyone here have experience with any of these? Not specifically Ruger, but the scout rifle concept in general. I love the aesthetic of them, but I’m wondering if a generic type of bolt gun would be preferable for mostly hunting deer instead.
For that purpose I wouldn’t really want to carry any more than 5 rounds in a magazine, but the scout rifles have more application than just hunting if I wanted to use them elsewhere, but at nearly double the cost of something like a Mossberg Patriot, Ruger American rifle, or a Savage Axis. I guess my question is has anyone used them to hunt, how much of a pain was it if at all, and if you bought one because it’s more versatile than a typical bolt gun do you actually use it for more than one thing.

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The whole point of the scout rifle is that its something you'll carry all day and maybe fire 1 or 2 accurate shots with it.

Its not meant to be multi purpose. The concept is they are light and comfortable, powerful and accurate.

They suit hunters more than anyone else.

I own. A Roger Scout. Love her dearly, too.

Outshoots me, light, ergonomic etc. But the 10rnd mag is a hindrance. You can't comfortably go prone, especially if you using optics (which I am currently not). Luckily the take IA mags so a 5rnd should be easy to find.

The magazines should be an eye-opener for people I think. Mags that size are enormous and proning out in a Ching sling with them is a pain in the ass. Five-rounders are definitely the way to go.

A scout rifle is supposed to be lightweight, handy, and used with a rapid-deployment-type sling. A bigass 10-round mag doesn't help that.

OP, the biggest problem with a really good scout rifle is cost. Most people who just want a light bolt gun with lower-power optics would be just as well suited with any number of short hunting rifles with a 2-7x or 1-6x, and it'd be far cheaper to get a decent-quality one of those. Remington's custom shop legitimately builds some of the best scout-style rifles ever made on their Model Seven action after working with Richard Mann, and they're flipping $3,500.

A scout-style build that allows you to mount a conventional scope over the receiver gives up very little (or nothing) to a "normal" bolt gun, but it's something you have to solve for and could be a pain in the ass depending on what action you choose. It can be done on Steyrs, Rugers, the Remington M7 custom, etc. It's just a mounting item. This triggers the shit out of people because IT'S NOT A SCOUT RIFLE ANYMORE or whatever if you aren't using a scout scope, but it's very real flexibility that a typical hunting rifle doesn't have.

A well-executed scout build is a thing of beauty and versatility, but you need to understand what you're getting into and how you'll want to go about mounting optics, etc.

Get a copy of Mann's Scout Rifle Study if you are thinking seriously about getting one but aren't well-versed yet. I'm halfway through mine and it's been pretty great so far for a passion project that transitioned into a book.

The magazines are garbage for the fact that they are huge and massive yet they are only single stack. Oh and they vomit cartridges when you drop them on the ground; even Ruger's own videos show this off.

Thanks for the feedback.

Is there any distinct advantage it would have over a more traditional rifle? Last season I went hunting with a Savage Axis and it was lightweight and easy to handle, so maybe just preference or how far your targets are?

I’ve read the Ruger has a single stack heavy feeling magazine. Do you know if there are any 5 rounders out for a good price? The Mossberg apparently can take AR mags but it looks pretty cheap.

Not the guy, but yes, you can get 5-round AI magazines. Pic related, but not a scout rifle - I just got an AICS bottom metal for it. The price... I'd imagine it to be a bit uncomfortable, but in no way unmanageable.

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Not that guy either but take a hard look at how Mossberg's bolt works.

Chris Baker over at Luckygunner has pretty clear video of it not working all that well. Ruger's actions are rough, but they function.

For a rifle that's meant to be used with a positional-style sling, AR mags are of questionable value to begin with. I'd be looking for something that took AICS-style mags long before I looked at an MVP. Compromising build quality to get AR mags isn't a great idea IMO. YMMV.

Second user with a Ruger scout checking in.

I don't have any glass on mine yet, but probably going to fix that sooner rather than later.

Light, handy, and no no no no ar magazines, please. I love my ARs dearly and their magazines are good *in an AR*. 10 round mag is whatever, there are 3/5 round options.

>Ar mags
Nope.jpg.

Ruger mag is some russian levels of fuckoff sheet steel. You can buy magpul AICS mags for it.

not that guy either, but I hunt black tail with my Ruger GS in the coastal range (pacific nw). The terrain and fog keep shot distances reasonable short most of the time so I think it's a good option. That being said, at some point I probably will regret not having something with more magnification.

>Is there any distinct advantage it would have over a more traditional rifle?
Well remember it IS a carbine. The shorter barrel means inherently less accuracy in a full size cartridge. Other than that, not really. They kick harder due to the light weight, but that's kind of a non-issue unless you shooting in a very protracted session.

Scout rifles are just bolt action carbines but with forward mounted scopes. A regular carbine would be best for hunting.

What do people think of the Steyr scout rifles? They seem pretty obscure and there isn't much information about them.

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>less accuracy meme
Barrel length determines VELOCITY not ACCURACY. Accuracy is influenced by barrel STIFFNESS and STRESS RELIEF. Try again, faggot.

I was looking at them the other day and found the same thing. I did notice the Merkel straight pulls too. I wonder how effective/ineffective they'd be as a SHTF rifle.

They seem pretty lightweight, and the synthetic furniture would obviously be a boon in adverse conditions. I also hear that their bolts are very smooth and they're quite accurate for what they are. The elite version doesn't perfectly fit the definition of a scout rifle, but it's what I would buy personally.

Great all purpose farm gun.

The thing that throws me off is that straight pulls are apparently really unreliable when they get slightly dirty. Also some models habe the trigger on the magazine and I really think that's weird.

Yeah, I'd definitely buy the rotating bolt guns with conventional trigger.

It's just a problem laced with "what if"s. At the moment I'm going for an M1A or a Mossberg MVP.

Damn I’ve been at work all day, I didn’t expect this much good feedback. No AR magazines noted. I’ll definitely look at the Scout Rifle Study that was recommended.

Thanks for the pointers anons.

Welcome to kosovo

Accuracy is objective to the shooter, what you mean is precision. A quality barrel gives better precision. Try again, faggot.

Explain to me how a heavier barrel balanced farther forward makes a rifle EASIER to shoot. Ill wait.

Not either of these anons, but in positional shooting yeah increasing weight actually helps stability (yup, in standing too).

That's why people use balls-heavy impractical guns for Service Rifle.

Everything in your post was wrong, and we are all stupider for having read it. I award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

>heavier barrel balanced farther forward makes a rifle EASIER to shoot
Less recoil if it's front heavy. The physics are obvious, broski.

Because recoil matters for single round and slow fire accuracy. DURRRRR

> thats why people use heavy guns for "service rifle"
if you mean "service rifle competition", then you are a moron.
"service rifle" competition requires the use of an unmodified "service rifle" (the name might have been a subtle clue) which have until recently been Balls Heavy Rifles.
the wight of the barrel has a NEGATIVE effect on shooter stability, because its a long thing pokin out in front of you, as it gets heavier, you have to resist the weight (and it's fulcrum augmented mass) to keep the business end pointed at the target instead of the dirt.

heavier barrels flex less during bullet transit, giving more accurate placement shot to shot, and can absorb more heat without altering the dynamics.

heavier barrels (and stocks and receivers, and pretty much everything) reduces felt recoil through inertia but make humping that 30 lb club with spear attachment through the french/german/vietnamese/italian/korean/iraqi/afghani countryside more exhausting

you display a shocking lack of understanding of firearms, newtonian physics and common sense
go on a diet, hit the gym, go back to school and get your GED, and then, once you have sorted yourself out, jump off a bridge.

Okay chief.