“BuT wHy Do YoU nEeD aN aR-15?”

So, he lives unharmed to go on and rob more stores, likely hurt more people.

This is a really comprehensive breakdown of common anti-gun arguments by a ex gun store owner and State of Utah expert witness on guns. I wouldn't trust some of his stats, they're not sourced but the rest of it is really solid. monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/23/an-opinion-on-gun-control-repost/

Handguns are weak and inaccurate. Shotguns have limited capacity and are only suitable for medium to large humans to shoot. An AR in 5.56 is accurate, has adequate capacity, has low recoil, is lighweight and compact enough for all size humans to use. With proper ammo this weapon is superior to shotguns and handguns in every conceivable defensive scenario that would not require the victim to have a concealed weapon.

>canadian gun laws
>sensible
Laughable. You must not know much about canadian gun or self defense laws.
What? The fact that women are weaker than men means that they shouldn't defend themselves? Should they just open the register, pull their pants down, and start warming themselves up for him? Maybe offer a condom, he probably doesn't want to have to deal with child support any more than they do.

It means they should have had a better gun so he’d be put down after the first fusillade.

But anoooon that happened a long time ago! There’s no way something like that could happen today! XD

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lmao it’s a miracle she didn’t kill her “roommate” or get killed by the robbers after she magdumped into the wall.

I shoot IPSC/2gun/etc.
There. Was it so fucking hard? There are uses other than "m-muh home defense" for firearms you larping faggots

Normies have no idea what that shit is, you dumbass. They’ll just tell you to take up a less dangerous sport like bowling.

>need
Shall not motherfucker

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rollingout.com/2015/03/21/5-horrific-modern-day-lynchings-blacks-america/

Then how about you educate them? Everyone I've ever described IPSC to has been open minded about it.

Liberals aren’t interested in being educated about anything unless it involves the political and social ramifications of Harry Potter.

he doesn't have a particularly good argument against stopping the vegas shooting though
i'm still trying to figure out a response to that one aside from "it's a free country, shit is gonna happen" which is pretty weak

The killer was supposedly rich. He could get access to any guns or weapons he wanted regardless of any gun control laws. Plus, we still don’t even have a possible motive for it all. It’s a little fishy that so much about it is being hidden from the public.

>There are uses other than
Nobody said otherwise
>Lol using guns as they were intended is larping
Eat shit "gun sports" fag

No one gives a shit about a sport.besides they would just say you can use 22lr like in the UK.

None of those are lynchings, and almost none of those are even provably racially motivated.

i think that falls under the "shit's gonna happen argument regardless" though

Does one unpreventable massacre every 15yrs really justify giving up tangible rights? Where's the love for bombings, arson attacks, trucks of peace, and so on? Why do we only have an obligation to stop mass shootings but not massacres in general?

That being said a single proficient and well placed individual with a scoped rifle could have made a hell of a lot of a difference that night.

It also probably could have been prevented if the security at the hotel had been more alert.

>be me
>2016 WVa flood
>first floor of house totally wiped out
>drag everything intact into yard to be sprayed down and sterilized
>methheads and heroin junkies repeatedly pull up in a truck in the middle of the night to steal what few belongings I have left
>call sheriffs office "what do?"
>deputy advises me that sheriff considers looting during a state of emergency a threat to the life of the property owner
>like clockwork, at 1AM methmobile pulls up into yard, wife calls cops, I call Gene Stoner
>4 crackheads jump out and start loading my things into methmobile
>GOOKS INSIDE THE WIRE.jpg
>light methmobile the fuck up, 30 rounds of M855 straight to the engine
>1 crackhead shoots back with some kind of handgun, all but one run down the road on foot
>remaining junkie literally pissed his pants and crawled into a ball afraid to move, thought I hit him but he was just wiggin'
>keep him under the gun until cops show up
>cops caught the other three running down the road, dumbasses should have broke for the woods and they wouldn't have got caught
>cop laughs at pisspants junkie, calls a wrecker for out of commission dopemobile
>"sucks you missed, could have saved us some work"

>mfw small town sheriff's department means Dad's fishing buddy is the sheriff and I went to high school with half the deputies

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you and i understand, the question is how to phrase it to people who don't understand so they can consider that there is another side to the story that they normally aren't exposed too

i can't for instance say yeah, it's a bad thing but there's nothing we should do about it because of other things without playing into their hands about being an unfeeling heartless baby killer etc

that this guy didn't have any signs or even a motive makes it complicated

I dunno man, the whole Vegas thing is super sketchy to me. there was just a lot of shit going on throughout the whole city.

I'm fairly convinced there was some real-life call of duty shit going on in Vegas that night.

>i can't for instance say yeah, it's a bad thing but there's nothing we should do about it because of other things without playing into their hands about being an unfeeling heartless baby killer etc
You can though. Bad things happen all the time, while we can take steps to prevent them do to a combination of planning and bad luck some of them will still occur. Just look at the numerous examples of just that happening in countries irrespective of GC laws. You let them assume the moral high ground, that they're simply thinking of victims/children, then use a little whataboutism to take that high ground away from them by calling into question their morals.

If they are simply interested in preventing deaths then they should be interested in preventing other bad things too, then why is it they're completely fixated on one single statistically irrelevant massacre/issue, to the exclusion of all others, that just so happens to conveniently offer ammunition for their previously existing goals. When was the last time they had an argument or marched for change that would just maybe reduce the efficacy of these other bad things?

Looking down the barrel of the gun
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
what the fuck

CLEAR

The absolute state of canada

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I need mine to rapidly kill communists, God willing.

>linking directly to (((VICE)))
If kikes were even capable of shame, you'd feel awful right now.

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Fuuuuuuck.
Deacons for Defense my fellow Nigerians.

I simply say that governments fear the automatic. A prime example is how every large nation has struggled if not lost to insurgents with automatic weapons and guerrilla tactics. This forces the government to serve the people rather than oppress them in fear of being executed by an ex-teacher. If we take the automatic away, facism and dictatorships will rise.
> now we just need a method for the market to fear the people in order to not fuck them over
>> also fuck this captcha

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Day made. Thanks

>need

If you start by answering the question, or trying to justify your “need”, you’ve already lost the discussion. It’s not a need, it’s a right that you choose to exercise. Since you haven’t killed or wounded anybody with your AR-15, it’s apparent to everybody that you’re exercising your right in a responsible manner.

Now, fuck off with your larping bullshit. That juvenile faggotry is exactly what the grabbers expect of us.

THE JEWS DIDNT NEED THEM EITHER

SO HITLER TOOK THEM

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Canada requires a justification for purchasing a firearm, and does not allow self defense to be used as a justification.

As I see it, I should never need to provide a justification for anything that I buy. The government should stay the fuck out of my business.

Vice is fucking trash

>tell me your secrets, gun

>owning a gun for home defense is larping
the absolute state of Jow Forums in 2018

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Go ahead and try to convince normies that you should be able to own an AR-15 for no reason other than "MUH RIGHTS" while all they care about are muh chillens gettin' killed. You're the one who will look like a selfish larping retard paranoid about another Civil War.

Ok Hoppes.

Like half of them were psych ops and didn’t actually do it.

Sure, you have the RIGHT to ask me that, but why do you NEED to ask me that?

You're right, that was a waste of rope.

If someone there had an AR they would have been stopped.

>"Why did Rosa Parks NEED to sit at the front of the bus?"

>5 round mags
If you were a leaf you’d wish you had burger laws.

Heartwarming user

>we have a problem where 1 person cannot defend himself against multiple attackers
>"lets arm everyone"
>but wouldn't that just remove the advantage of the defender, seeing how the aggressor clearly already has an advantage due to the element of surprise?
>??????

>when libshits resort to filming guns in a positive light as a new strategy to get america to give up their rights

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I carry a 5 round snubby and that's all I need. You've been playing too many video games.

So your my mother? That’s great for when you need to plug a dude in the gut at hand to hand ranges. Canada has no ccw. Ah hell if why am I even giving the (you) to a fuddshill

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The average dindu's can't arm a squad, plus you have defender's advantage.

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>John Woo Home Defense

This!

It's simple, humans have the right to safety and to defend themselves, and to that end they should be afforded every advantage available to them. Taking away firearms or gimping their firearms will lessen their ability to defend themselves and their family from home invaders, rapists, etc.
If anything, the US should just issue each citizen an AR and a can of 5.56 when you turn 18. It will teach you responsibility.

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>you have a right to protect yourself
>you have a right to own property
>ergo, you have a right to own property to protect yourself

Can some anons post GIFs and webms that demonstrate why "YOU DON'T NEED A GUN YOU CAN JUST CALL THE COPS" is retarded?

Living in Houston, Texas...and three crackheads are trying to pry open my door in the middle of the night. All my guns are in my safe in McAllen, Tx....end up brandishing a butcher's knife at them to scare them off. Three justifiable homicides I missed out on.

Nobody needs an AR15 becuase it's weak and shitty compared to the glorious Kalashnikov rifle.

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>le 56% face

>live in ruraland usa.
>sheriff’s dept is over 40 min away.
if multiple assailants showed up on my property, i’d have to hold out until the police show up.

>nobody posts about the mass shooting that was stopped by a NRA instructor with an AR-15
Amazing how quickly this got memoryholed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutherland_Springs_church_shooting

Women were a mistake. Its time to fix that.

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They always get memoryholed.

To suggest that honestly would mean you operate under the assumption that he won't still rape or kill you, or rape and kill you. Compliance is not a guarantee of safety.

mercurynews.com/2016/08/17/hayward-man-shot-after-complying-with-robbers-demand-for-cell-phone/

learnaboutguns.com/2009/01/03/woman-shot-after-complying-with-robbers-demands-for-money/

dnainfo.com/chicago/20170811/wicker-park/man-shot-by-robber-wicker-park-blocks-from-fatal-carjacking-scene#slideshow

newson6.com/story/36497398/tulsa-police-arrest-juvenile-for-murder-armed-robbery-and-sexual-assault

Did you find that handguard you wanted senpai?

>I'm in the reserve and I train to upkeep my skills in case shtf aka russia
I'd just for fun anyways but that's a sensible reason imo

I did, thank you senpai. user on the AKG hooked me up

That was not an ideal case to point to, as the guy essentially shot the shooter once the shooter was done shooting.

We need a case of a shooter armed to the teeth with a clear intent of mass killing getting put down without being able to get double digit numbers of kills, and a majority of the captive target population escaping unharmed.

>Burglar laws
>Sensible

>Burglary
>Sensible laws
>Not being able to defend yourself

No thanks Leaf.....

>defender's advantage
yeah i'm sure that shorter supply lines will make one hell of a difference...

No but your fortifications definitely will help

>2 spics
>2 arabs
>1 azn
>2 goblins
so much for the white mass shooter meme

They deny the basic concept that those sworn to protect them can turn their weapons on them at any time someone with enough influence wants them to. They don't trust themselves with their own safety and they project that on any normal citizen with a gun. They think the police are infallible because of the training meme and anyone else would fuck up and kill themselves or an innocent because of pure speculation and projection. Therefore they want to disarm everyone because they're selfish and they weren't going to arm themselves anyway and if it's any less of a chance that the person assaulting them has a gun then they might as well take it.

As a leaf, you're a fucking delusional faggot if you think our laws are fucking sensible. Fuck off you kike shill nigger.

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Didn't you guys have a massive door-kicking-in type confiscation wave not too long ago? Real fucking sensible, not 1984-like in the slightest.

I forgot to conclude with an answer, got a bit carried away. They don't care if you have needs for an AR15 or any type of gun. They don't see a need for them to buy one ever so why should anyone else be allowed to. That's their mentality, there is no convincing them otherwise unless a literal pack of niggers storms their house and literally beats some sense into them.

holy shit how small is that woman?

yes, after you check the chamber to make sure it's unloaded you can look down the barrel to check for bore obstructions.

>while using a piece of paper or a pen light to check bore condition from the action
otherwise you're retarded

>not checking from the breach
a great way to blow your face off, stop playing games with dangerous objects that can flick off your life like a lightswitch

Smells of bullshit

>2 white on black murders, one supposed white on black defensive shooting, and 2 inconclusive cases with no suspects and no evidence of any murder
wow it's actually fucking nothing. Do these people know what the word "lynch" means?

>durr hurrr lookin down the barrel of an unloaded gun is dangerous durrrr hurrr
are you two ok?

>hurf durf ned 2 chek 4 bore obstructions
visibly inspecting the chamber is all you need unless you think you had a squib, which is when you check with a ramrod. The only non retarded reason to look directly down the barrel is to inspect rifling with an open action or bolt removed.

Dylann Roof was aryan purity, surrounded by these tards

They will tell you, that you can do those sports without dangerous guns

>yeah why not just point the gun at myself and other people, firearms are never loaded when I think they're not loaded. safety is stupid and for losers, my mind is infallible and I can never fuck up.
you only need to fuck up once to die, theres a reason gun safety is so ritualistic and repetitive.

I've seen some make the argument using hunting as a reason for owning semi-auto rifles.

But what need does a semi-auto have for hunting? You can just as easily kill deer or any medium-game using a lever or a boltgun.

>Canada requires a justification for purchasing a firearm
As much as I hate our laws, this is not true. You do the gun course, get the licence. There is no 'justification' needed

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