F-35s enter Iran undetected

>Two Israeli F-35 fighter jets entered Iranian airspace over the past month, Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida reported on Thursday. The act is a signal of heightened regional tensions, especially in light of recent Israeli military attacks in Syria, including against Iranian bases in the country.
>Sources quoted in Al-Jarida stated that two stealth fighters flew over Syrian and Iraqi airspace to reach Iran, and even targeted locations in the Iranian cities Bandar Abbas, Esfahan and Shiraz.
>The report states that the two fighter jets, among the most advanced in the world, circled at high altitude above Persian Gulf sites suspected of being associated with the Iranian nuclear program.
>It also states that the two jets went undetected by radar, including by the Russian radar system located in Syria. The source refused to confirm if the operation was undertaken in coordination with the US army, which has recently conducted joint exercises with the IDF.
>The source added that the seven F-35 fighters in active service in the IAF have conducted a number of missions in Syria and on the Lebanese-Syrian border. He underlined that the fighter jets can travel from Israel to Iran twice without refueling.
>Israel has admitted to launching about 100 air strikes on Syria over the past five years, targeting Hezbollah terrorists, weapons convoys and infrastructure, and it is believed to be behind dozens more.
jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israeli-stealth-fighters-fly-over-Iran-547421
Russians are reporting this as well
newsader.com/44833-stels-istrebiteli-f-35-proveli-v-irane-op/

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youtube.com/watch?v=PKUYkeb92hk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-3_airstrike
quora.com/How-effective-are-UHF-Radars-like-the-Chinese-YJ-26-or-the-Israeli-ULTRA-against-stealth-aircraft-like-the-F-22-or-F-35/answer/Paul-Krupa-3
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How the fuck do they know if they did it """"undetected""""?

And there we have it

>israel admits to illegally entering the air space of another country.
>Iran will somehow be made out to be the bad guy

>israel admits
where?

>Israeli F-35s flying combat missions with untested Block 3F software (needed for full warfighting capability)

yeah nah

Are you questioning yid honesty?

That S-300/S-400 system don't work too well.

If they entered undetected, how would anyone know?

I'm sure Iran would intercept.

They shoot down drones they detect.

Bullshit fake news. It's like catnip for low IQ amerimutts who worship Israel. Yes, die for your masters, idiot goyim.

>don't actually send any planes
>claim you sent them undetected

???

>flew over Syrian and Iraqi airspace
>undetected
its not like greatest ally would say anything... they probably escorted them close and that was that, everyone turned for home. Ours went to us bases again and theirs went to mosestown

It says undetected by radar then mentions towns being targeted and the planes circling in the air so they were visually detectable.

S-fourhundred? More like S-NOhundred!

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>Being this mad about the f35

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Iran? More like iRUN!

What?
Israel has F-35's already?
Did they pay for them or did the US just give them the jets like some cuck?

F35s are sending data back to Lockheed, that's how we know.

Considering that Israel prints all of America's money for it it wouldn't really matter either way since they could just print more money to buy the planes

>Iranians are SEETHING

Not that much of an achievement. Remember that time eight Sea Stallions and half a dozen C-130s not only flew into but LANDED in Iran undetected?
>Recon mission
>needing full warfighting capability
The Israelis successfully rushed the even more underdeveloped F-16A into combat, in overloaded configuration, during Operation Opera, and it worked out fine. This is nothing by comparison.

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>Did they pay for them or did the US just give them the jets like some cuck?
They paid for them fair-and-square with the billions in military aid we gave them.

Is the the military equivalent of a prank call?
'Hey guys, hear me out: let us not fly to Iran but leak some info to a newspaper that we did completely undetected. The Iranians will go totally nuts, probably even fire some general for this."
'Oh Ari, you always make the best jokes. Let's do this.'

A number of countries have already accepted delivery of F-35s. There's already over 200 produced.

>They paid for them fair-and-square with the billions in military aid we gave them.

Serious question, why not straight up give them the toys for free? Would save a ton in administrative costs

>Not that much of an achievement. Remember that time eight Sea Stallions and half a dozen C-130s not only flew into but LANDED in Iran undetected?

Below radar coverage

If they were flying at altitude, then it'd be impressive, as Iran has been able to detect drones.

It's about corporate welfare. We are moving cash around to help defense contractors.

because we need to give the defense contractor jews before we send stuff to the jew jews

All this poltard and vatnik asshurt. Feed me more pls

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oh boy, I can't wait to go to Iran to die for Israel ... it's my dream since I was a little goy

I would be happy to die for Saudi Arabia too if you see it fit, commander

This does belong here!!!
Everything in this post is related to weapons!
Keep it in !

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Stealth is a meme, the F35 is overpriced shit, glorious Russian made S-400s will blow them out of the sky

Then why didn't it this time?

>glorified firecracker launcher
>downing a F35

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naw, just fire ground hugging cruise missiles at S-400 sites and move on.

fascist western lies((((((((((

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>t.

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because they were detected.

>Israel keeps poking hornets nests with stuff we paid for because muh IRAN and leaves us stuck playing clean up

truly greatest ally that we must give billions and defend for ever

clearly not that much of a hornets nest if they cant even detect fighters

> Jow Forums nigger

>fighter goes undetected
>we are having a thread on Jow Forums discussing about a Israeli fighter that entered Iranian airspace undetected
>adjective undetected
>not detected or discovered.

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it's obama's fault Iran got s400 in the first place. if obama didn't hate israel like the racist he was this wouldn't be necessary

>Israel gives a shit about sending their soldiers with untested tech...
They have balls user... unlike the faggotry if the US

>they cant release details after the mission
hurrr

S-400 cant be that good since they flew right over one

>hey guys we totally flew in your airspace, trust us because we said so after the fact

>"everything i dont like is a lie! my side would never lie to me!"
there was also the fact that they flew right over russian air defense, yet they said nothing, and that the Iranians didnt attempt to intercept

S-400 is good but the F-35 is better.

>JPost
>distance to target exceeds combat radius under load
Complete LARP. The only way this would be possible would be with mid-air refueling, and last I checked there's no one flying stealth tankers.

Sounds as true as the Qaher-313 entering israels airspace undetected.

If thats the case send that shit to Syria already.......Nevermind its just boasting.

The talmud chimney riddle
youtube.com/watch?v=PKUYkeb92hk

It's a very complicated process of Jews printing valueless money out of thin air, transferring it electronically out of America to Israel, then Israel wire-transferring it back to America, in order to look like they're paying for things.

they have been operating in syria you brainlet

>distance to target exceeds combat radius under load
Bin don befo'. Gotta use droptanks plus overload condition with restricted flight envelope, but it's possible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera

Of course, it's entirely possible they clandestinely used tankers this time. The Iranians did when they went for a similar mission.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-3_airstrike
Another possibility is that they refueled over international waters in the Gulf. Doubtful though, considering the route suggested from the reports.

Pay attention Mr. Retard, this guy thinks an F-35 is better than an S-400, yet none deployed to destroy one that is boasting.

>Combat radius 1000km
>Distance to Isfahan 1500km

Yeah no.

Israel will just blow up nuclear facilities, like they've always done.

This F-35 mission was no doubt a test and a threat.

I know it's possible, just exceedingly unlikely. They're not going to pull off an H-3 without dropping actual bombs. This is propaganda. Israelis have been whining for years about wanting Americans to refuel them to attack Iran; a request which has, so far, been denied. Mainly because Israel doesn't give a fuck about the US Navy personnel that would be killed in the counter-attack, seeing as we're just goyim and all that.

External fuel tanks dropped off before arriving and landing at an allied base.

external fuel tanks to raise RCS even more believable(sarcasm) but yet more than likely still not enough, especially the round trip back.

Read it again

They dropped them off when they used them up then switched to internal fuel before crossing. Then on the way back they land in a friendly base (US has plenty near Iran).

Pretty sure the Israelis know they launched a sortie, dummy

Even in k I can't escape from mung posting

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Your implying that fuel tanks carry more than twice the range than aircrafts do......No just no.

What's the range with internal and external combined?

They can also land at an allied base before crossing.

Your asking me this shit now but yet have confidence that it still can come on user you can do better. Fuel tanks offer less than half the coverage it is still unlikely to reach even if it did it would have to return back.

"They can also land at an allied base before crossing." That is not stated in the article.

Well, they're using X Band radar, of course the S-400 can't detect the F-35.

But of course, combat radius is not exactly a good measure here. They probably only carried AIM-120s, so the figures on wikipedia don't apply. They could additionally be flying Hi-Hi-Hi missions, which would also mess with it. Figures I've seen elsewhere years ago had an air to air combat radius of around 800 something nmi. If you lessen the margins for air-to-air combat, and possibly carry only two missiles, or possibly even none, I bet you could stretch it out to 1000 nmi without fueling. Presuming it did in fact happen, it wasn't a strike mission, it was a snooping mission. And if needed, I'm sure they could have met with tankers over Iraq for a topoff on their way back. Possibly even divert to an Iraqi airfield if they absolutely HAD to. And that's assuming there were no drop tanks rigged.

So I believe it is possible. I'm not sold on it being real, but it's a possibility.

I think you misunderstand. If real, it's not only a propaganda mission, but also a reconnaissance mission. The F-35's sensors would allow them to take a very good and very close look at the sites they wanted to. So no, it doesn't have to be a strike mission. I don't know why you would be insistent that it does have to be.

The external tanks add about ~500 extra km. in range.

So yes, it can make it from Israel on external + internal as it crosses, and then landing at a allied base on the way back.

Quaids

Seething shitskin damage control.

Sensor fusion of low and high frequency radars is the answer for that. Ask China why they can see and track an RCS of .01m2 more than 300kms away?

That is just for a 1 way trip not counting the trip back to their base. adds about 500km your guessing. An F-22 with 2 external fuel tanks does not get 50% more distance......Also when is it alright for the F-35 to drop the tank and at what distance?

there's no reason they would be detected so I'm guessing it got leaked somehow

500 km. is a mid range estimated based on the fuel added. Could be a bit lower, could be a bit higher. Either way and it's good.

You'd dump the tanks before hitting possible radar coverage or when you've used them up. So, before hitting Iranian airspace.

Yes, it's a 1 way trip with refueling on the way back.

It's doable.

This thread seems very familiar

I remver this exact post the first time this thread was posted like a week ago.


Fuck of D&C shill fags, Jow Forums won't fall for your shit like Jow Forums.

"Could be a bit lower, could be a bit higher." An F-22 still wont have a 50% increase in range with just 2 external fuel tanks user you fail at BS be more convincing......radar coverage is 300-400km dropping it will immediately wont help you instead was fuel on the way back

"Yes, it's a 1 way trip with refueling on the way back." -refueling now, than its detected.

>The external tanks add about ~500 extra km. in range.
The fuel tanks that don't yet exist?

The reason it got detected it's because they were expecting them, a very large chunk of defense data got stolen.

/sandniggeryiageneral/ BTFO

Do you know how Jow Forums works? Fuck off with that quoting shit.

Not him, but sit down and lurk more.

And refueling doesn't mean the planes in question were detected. The tanker obviously was, but it's feasible that the F-35s weren't during the process. You'd still be able to infer that something was probably be being fueled, but for the purposes of propaganda, that doesn't matter.

fucking this.
if theres anything i hate more than Israel, its that shitty general. this is prime shitposting materiel.

See =/= track
The lower VHF that stealth is not optimized for is shit for tracking. You're not gonna hit shit with that. I guess you can watch them? You're also going to get about a billion false images there for obvious reasons

"Fuck off with that quoting shit." Stupidity is too fun to point out.

"The tanker obviously was" which basically means a another aircraft is present.

Here you go quora.com/How-effective-are-UHF-Radars-like-the-Chinese-YJ-26-or-the-Israeli-ULTRA-against-stealth-aircraft-like-the-F-22-or-F-35/answer/Paul-Krupa-3

The F-35A has a massive amount of fuel already so the extra fuel fraction from EFTs is far smaller than on 4th gen aircraft. Then once you account for the extra drag and weight from external fuel tanks, the extra range from them is unlikely to be that impressive. That said it's likely that if the Israelis topped it off before it left their air space & had a recovery tanker ready, they didn't put any weapons in its bays (or even have retrofitted wet hardpoints internally), flew an efficient flight profile, and the F-35A's actual range exceeds its official range, it might be possible.

lmao did you really just bring up quora as a source

China is the same as the Soviet Union back in the Cold War. Lots of talk about """super""" weapons, which end up being shit

An answer that explains how low and high frequency work together.

Despite still being in "low-rate initial production" they're being produced in a relatively large quantity.

>Seething shitskin damage control.
56% (or is it already 55% this month?) enjoy losing 2A and 1A within a decade, dumb goy.

Just go back you fucking schizo

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go back to mexico Jose.

280+ per Wikipedia.

That's not how quoting on Jow Forums works. Probably just a troll anyways.