In an event of a revolution in America, how would you know who is a government loyalists and revolutionist? Surely...

You're awfully confident, which isn't surprising considering you seem to forget that big people with lots of money finance the institutions that breed these people and their demonstrations.

Billions of dollars had to be paid to organize shit like March For Our Lives and the Women's March. Who do you think is paying for it? And why wouldn't these same people direct billions towards arming, armoring, and training those bleeding-heart liberals into footsoldiers of a totalitarian regime? After all, I'm sure the idealist socialists would be all too willing to give a big banker who helped finance their takeover a high spot in their new socialist government.

You guys are way too naive. The moment a civil war starts, the government and the globalists who want something like it to stay in power would be crazy not to continue to propagandize and poison the leftist masses to the rebel factions. Then, give 'em guns, and wham, you have a fanatic force of young men and women willing to die for a totalitarian state.

Mark my words, that will be what happens. I'd say that a rebellion to restore the constitution would still have a good chance of winning, but I think it'll be much harder than the average Jow Forumsitizen thinks.

The left spends billions on pointless marches that parade the same 200,000 people around on tour.

The right spends billions of dollars on ammo and firearms every year.

They're spending billions on winning a culture war and making people believe they are innumerable and the future of the US while most of conservative America just minds their own business and does little to disprove these claims.

This will come back to bite you on the ass in the case of a revolution, believe me. If people think you're a bunch of crazies that have no ground to stand on and will be wiped out at any moment, you effectively become that. You are not giving enough importance to the psychological part of war.

It takes time to train good soldiers. The chumps would end up getting Operation Dingo'd a few times and since they're much bigger pussies than Mugabe's African marauders that will be the end of it. Capitulation is imminent once the first Starbucks has its chai and soy reserves poisoned and instagram's server farms get their cords cut.

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the left spends billions on a culture war

The right spends billions on tools of actual war.
Best of luck, snowflake.

A truly effective crazy hillbilly rebel would destroy infrastructure. not random people. Fake threats to swat teams and water treatment plants. Cut down power poles or shoot the lines with airguns. Start crop fires and cut train tracks with torches. Snipe train cars and oil tanks with high powered rifles.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003
God forbid one angry fucktard in a government position does something like this in purpose.

Regardless of your intentions or whats actually going on the alphabet agencies will fuck with your militia even in peace time just to do it. So why even make one? If they forced them to shut down the Internet or power thats practically an instant victory. People will see it as a victory on the rebel side.

Id also like to say that there are 1.5 usa military personnel and you can go ahead and cut that in half and thats the number of combat related troops they have. That many dudes couldn't even control the new york urban region let alone the whole country. The police would have to fully militarize.

Do I sound like a goddamn pinko to you? Get your head out of your own ass, I'm trying to tell you that if they have billions to throw around for a culture war, they will have untold billions to spend to arm and train the people affected by that culture war. The people who don't want to see a Second American Revolution go through are big bankers, people who want to maintain the status quo. They will dwarf however much conservative America spends on guns within a day.

I'm trying to tell you this shit won't be as easy as you think it will be. Not even the half of the American people will be on board because of this culture war. The worst thing you could go into a war with is overconfidence.

>the left has banks
>the right has gun manufacturers who rightfully want to stay in business and keep selling guns and ammo
the last civil war we had was decided by who had the means of production, shipping, and agriculture. Now which areas and which group do you think fits that description...

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I wish it would hurry up and happen. I’m tired of getting up and going to work everyday. I just wanna shoot commies

>production, shipping, and agriculture
Sounds a lot like California.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003
Wow, I'm from 'round Cleveland and don't remember this happening or ever hearing about it.(I was only 2 when it happened though)

Anyone that shoots at you is the enemy. Shoot back.

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its probably not good to mention how one minor fuck up can deprive our biggest population center of power. I remember a single tree downed a power line on chrismas in like 2008 and my town and the neighboring one were without power for over a week from one fucking tree.

The bankers don't want a war, regardless of who wins or loses.

Civil conflict is incredibly destructive. You're talking about the economy contracting to 50% or less of its prewar size.

Nobody with any power in the existing system wants civil unrest. It's the powerless and ignorant outside of the system stoking civil unrest.

>"winning"

and what type of crops do they grow in California?

>agriculture
sure, enough to feed the eastern half of the states. Fuck em, there are plenty of cattle farther south. Its kind of what we do
>production
oh no, what ever will we do without 10% of the medical industry. Oh no, what will we do when biotech research grinds to a halt
>shipping
yeah, sacramento is primarily import not export. Great idea, lets cut off california and abandon grapes and avacados. We'll be devestated why they all die of dehydration. elling my eh oh, famalamadingodongo

You wouldn't. Another American revolution would be so fucking ridiculously messy and chaotic, it would make the Middle East look stable and clean cut. It would take a long time for semi-clear lines to be drawn, and even then, you'd never fucking know when your friendly neighbor is a loyalist waiting for the opportunity to shoot you in the back of the head, or when a soldier is going to grease some of his own before defecting.

Civil war hanky code. I think its something about how the boots are tied for guerillas. This wars info graphics are released along with the starting bell just like last time. Dont you know history?

Ha Cali would shrivel up and burn if not for irragation. So it would have to have the surrounding states and then some on the same side. A western alliance

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I remember seeing it all over the news. People were thinking it was another terrorist attack. People had no idea what was going on. And it was in the middle of summer. People got stuck in elevators and ofcourse our melanin enriched brethren went looting.

Have you ever seen an Antifa rally? Whenever they get in a real fight they drop like flies. It was by the grace of the far right in Charlottesville that Antifa didn't get slaughtered. If it ever came down to a real confrontation the far left(who are mainly comprised of betamale university weaklings) would be routed in minutes by any real retaliation from the police of opposition protestors

Why the left loves this style? I always thought it was disgusting while playing Fallout.

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>>lack of meme patches

Look up the attack on the power station in California a few years back
Literally caused by a tree branch hitting a power line because the electric company was cheap and understaffed the linemen. That happened a county over from me.

Kek but kinda tru

That's because they're a bunch of numales who aren't trained and have no need for training. They're just there to cause havoc and agitate.

Again, you guys are focusing far too much on a single subsect. When the war drums start beating, there will be plenty of people from the right as well as the left who will want to maintain the status quo. All the government has to do is to convince them that you are the real enemy of America and they would be willing to fight tooth and nail for what they believe is the REAL America.

Hell, some of them won't even need convincing. Ever heard of neocons?

Look, man, I'm not a defeatist shill or some other variant of PTS scum. Like I said, I think we have a good chance to win if we play smart. But we have to play smart, and that means trusting noone, not even our fellow conservatives, when shit hits the fan.

mercenaries > raiders

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>I think we have a good chance to win if we play smart.
>we
Who is this "we"?

>people will want to preserve the status quo
>people who want everything to stay the same
>people who fear change
>will suddenly go days without easy access to food, water, or television to murder people
DOUBT

Don't worry, we have local patch merchants who would be glad to have your shek- your business. Buy up, goyim.

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>when you're a button-down, low-key kinda guy but would love nothing more than flaming, YAAS QUEEN twink with the sexy kind of daddy issues
The struggle is real.

Sorry, FBI, but not any concrete group. A hypothetical group that is battling the government in response to their many constitutional missteps.

So their families can continue to have those things? Absolutely.

Too bad the Gunners weren't more fleshed out.

Look at Syria and tell me how that worked out.

You serious? Dairy, vegetables, fruit, and rice. California is an ag powerhouse.

>Then, give 'em guns
I am sure the vast majority of the left that has deliberating paralysis when they see a gun and have the concept of guns being evil drilled into their core fiber from youth will just pick up a gun and start shooting. The more extreme left might take up arms themselves, but the majoprity of the left will do one thing and one thing only, they will call the police/government.

FBI start these threads you dingdong, I'm a schmuck factory worker.

they are only the key suppliers of grapes, avacados, and nuts. Vegetables and rice grow fucking everywhere. Dairy is huge in oklahoma and texas.

>status quo goyim
>caring about their families
these are the same people who say they would "talk down" an armed robber and would "die with a clean conscience"

>All the government has to do is to convince them that you are the real enemy of America and they would be willing to fight tooth and nail for what they believe is the REAL America.

That requires sacrifice and the left is not the one sacrificing shit. They are not losing rights. They are not afraid to say or think openly. They can do anything they want without much fear of losing their jobs or status. They have been on the offensive for the last few decades. They have not lost anything and you expect them to be able to handle sacrifice at the drop of a hat? Fuck right off.

All of which reside in conservative areas. You think central Californians are going to stand by and let the state direct them if lefties went rabid? Fuck no. We'll be on the front lines dropping commies With un-cucked rifles.

You'll find that kind of virtue-signalling will quickly melt away when the possibility of their lifestyle and the welfare state they live in are being threatened. A big check by the government to kill any of those evil right-wingers wouldn't be too bad either.

I didn't say they would be leftists, you retard. Do you think every right-winger is gonna be on board with our little revolution? You're very goddamn naive if you do.

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>Californians
>We
Ah. It's a noguns roleplaying thread.

An AG powerhouse within a drought state that refuses to build a few more backup water sources. But they'll build a multibillion dollar fast rail from SF to LA.

Fuck off CalDOJ. I'm not telling you what I brought back from Utah.

>calling others naive
>advocating lone wolf mindset
>inflating the power of the those on the left
>"Look, man, I'm not a defeatist shill "
I guess when you say that line, you can pretty much say whatever you want and you'll be safe from criticism.

always kill a traitor before an enemy.

Inflating the power of the left? I can't believe I'm hearing this on Jow Forums of all places. Do you think our old pal George Soros and the Bilderberg Group, the richest people on the planet, are gonna fund a rebellion in the US? The Rothschilds? Do you think the same banks that are now cracking down on gun stores for the sole purpose of suppressing the 2nd Amendment financially are gonna help us out, buddy? The media establishment, right or left?

Sure, our own military would be hesitant to fire upon us, at least with it's current political make-up, but the US is the financial center of the world, and if shit goes belly-up here, the economies of the whole world go to Shit Creek. The government nor the banks would ever want this to happen, and they're going to contract every single Yuropoor, Chinaman, African, and mudslime to help crush this rebellion ASAP. The other militaries of the world will be deployed to help.

I'm not a defeatist shill, but you seem to think that the Deep State is just gonna lie on it's side and give up the moment some Americans shoot a soldier or two. You also seem to assume that everyone right of center is gonna want to be a part of this revolution, or even want the same things during the revolution. You should probably let someone else do the fighting if you're gonna be this retarded.

What is it up to now? $100billion?

I heard the Pakis or the Israelis painted the tip of their muzzle white or yellow to avoid a blue on blue if you both draw. What we really need are some kind of uniforms so that we can recognize each other.

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