Keymods?

Are keymod rails a meme just for tacticool guns or are they actually better/as good as picatinny rails. I was gonna buy some 16” ones and need some schooling.

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All rails are a meme. Get wood furniture for your AR.

Everyone hates keymod now for some reason. Get M-Lok. You install rails only where you need it to cuts down on weight

I've got keymod. Tbh it's fine, I just wanted a cheap free floated handguard I can put an angled foregrip on later.

you can do that with key mod too retard.

Honestly, i like keymod, its easy to add to.

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Pictin rails are the best. My personal favorite.
Their downside is that they are heavier and pissies bitch about them cutting into their hands.
I have virgin skin and its never once bothered me.

Keymod is lighter and smoother. As an added downide they are thin and you have to buy addon sections of pictinny rails to bolt on to your gun for attachments.

If you are building an ar10- key mod.
Ar15, pic.

keymod looks like something out of a hardware store. we have these shelves at work and the metal brackets that are the frame are literally keymod.
get mlok if you're a tactitard, just get a railed hand guard if you dont wanna buy an adapter for every attachment.

>Everyone hates keymod now for good reason
like cracking like glass when it gets dropped

I went keymod back in 2013 before M-Lock was really in production and already have a bunch of rail segments and such. I've just stuck with it since they both do the same job. I see no reason to switch now.
When it comes to modular rail systems, I'm more concerned with getting a quality steel barrel nut instead of some of these chintzy aluminum ones than what shape the holes are on it.

keymod is objectively worse than m-lok, has less industry support, and looks like dicks.
get m-lok.

With the widespread acceptance of M-Lok, Keymod is now the Betamax of attachment systems.

Betamax was revolutionary.

Key-Mod was revolutionary...but it's not top dog anymore.

>That pic

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This. I was just thinking about how ugly I think keymod is but I couldn't quite place why. You've summed it up.

youtube.com/watch?v=gvpTPBcmLLU

Keymod is a meme. If you're going to get a fancy rail, get M-LOK. Pic rails' advantage is that they are very robust. Personally I like plain heat shielded polymer handguards.

I like my keymod rail, but I also don't use anything other than the top rail.

Everything is switching to M-lock now for accessories tho. You can still get keymod stuff obviously, but m-lock is definitely gonna take over

If you can get a keymod rail that you like cheaper than an m-lock rail, buy keymod

But if you're worried about getting a bunch of attachments with keymod/m-lock mounting, maybe go for the m-lock

>just get a railed hand guard if you dont wanna buy an adapter for every attachment.

>buying adapters instead of just buying the myriad MLOK versions of attachments

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You're not going to mount anything on them anyway so why do you care if your rifle has dickmod or vaginalok? Both are lighter than pic rail and easier to hold. Dickmod is slightly easier to install things on since everyone has used shelves with it and vaginalok is slightly stronger for k's usage punching paper and animals.

Half the accessories for vaginalok have plastic connectors which completely negates any strength claims for the style. Either are fine.

I've never needed a pic rail attachment. Everything these days comes with an m-lok variant.

>I buy cheap chinashit so mlok being objectively better doesn't matter
unless you already have a bunch of dickmod accessories and don't want to buy adapters, I can't think of any reason you'd buy keymod.

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>posts experiment results
>without the experiment

>obviously undergo identical experiment
>clearly says "Drop Test"
>mlok survived everything, keymod didn't
soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane/
keymod is objectively worse in nearly every way. The only advantages it has over m-lok are self alignment and being open sourced.

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Other way around, Keymod is proprietary and MLok is open source

uhh
no, friend, you have that backwards. literally just google "keymod".

>KeyMod is an open-source design released for use and distribution in the public domain in an effort to standardize universal attachment systems in the firearm accessories market.

>While M-LOK is free licensed, it is not open source, and thus manufacturers must acquire a license from Magpul before making products using the M-LOK standard.

nope

I hated keymod before it was cool. Honestly, I've always just thought it looked dumb. And considering I value cosmetic appeal over functionality most of the time with guns, I never got into it.

On the plus side, apparently M-Lok is better functionality wise too, so it's a win-win.

>5 feet
>shit completely fucked
jesus christ

significantly less secure than rails, but much lower profile when not in use, as well as lighter and cheaper to make.

>>I buy cheap chinashit so mlok being objectively better doesn't matter
>unless you already have a bunch of dickmod accessories and don't want to buy adapters, I can't think of any reason you'd buy keymod.

I see you missed the point of the post. I don't have any accessories for either, so either are fine. I have 4 Larue rifles that came with Keymod which doesn't fucking matter since NOTHING WILL BE MOUNTED TO THEM!

Mlok is stronger if both pieces are metal. Half the Mlok components have plastic bases because they're MOE compatible. This makes no fucking difference if you don't mount anything to them like 99% of rifle owners.

The test you posted highlights optics and lasers mounted to Mlok don't rip out as easily as keymod. If you're in that situation, go Mlok.

Since simple people need a quoteable nugget I'll make it easy for you: for most people it won't matter, so buy whichever one you want.

>buy whichever one you want
I buy HKeymod just to trigger M-lok fagots.
I'd rather just have a solid handguard and drill holes in it and loctite a nut and bolt through that to hold my accessories before fucking around with all this non-standard mount shit.
why do we even have a system to mount a rail to mount clamps that mount accessories? why not just make accessories that bolt directly to mounting point using standard hardware?
its fucking dumb.

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>why do we even have a system to mount a rail to mount clamps that mount accessories? why not just make accessories that bolt directly to mounting point using standard hardware?

They do. You can buy shit that bolts right to keymod or Mlok slots. The pic rail adapters are for making them work with legacy components.

KeyMod = Reverse Home Depot Shelving

Keymod and mlock both suck equal amounts of dick. Its like choosing between a thai nail salon and a vietnamese nail salon: both will leave a happy ending, but your going to have to pay extra (adapters or proprietary accsessories). Picatinny is the slightly heavier crack whore, little less comfortable but gets the job done without the extra cost of your nails. Standard handguards are strippers on a tuesday night: some look bangable, some look like dogs but either way the bouncers dont let you touch (attatchments)

>Keymod and mlock both suck equal amounts of dick.

except that's objectively wrong
keymod is weaker
in the testing done by SOCOM keymod couldn't handle a five foot drop
so I guess the only fallacy argument you could use is
>well i'm not 5ft tall anyways so it shouldn't be a problem

>2/3 of m-lok accessories suffered poa shift under the same test.

Plus, it's not just keymod vs. m-lok.
Manufacturers make different qualitys- even within a manufacturer you have major design changes.
I have 3 keymod and 2 m-lok. All of them are different thicknesses.
An expensive keymod is more robust than a cheap m-lok.

I wonder what a pic rail vs. keymod/m-lok test would look like.
I bet pic rail shits on both.

>except that's objectively wrong
>keymod is weaker
>in the testing done by SOCOM keymod couldn't handle a five foot drop

What do you have attached to your hand guards?

If you have keymod, it's fine.

If you buy a new rail, might as well get M-Lok. It's what all the cool kids are doing, and impressing autists on a Columbian bird watching forum is important.

That said, if you don't hang a lot of shit off your rifle, who cares if you have penis-shaped holes in your handguard or not?

Keymod is lighter.

The only time Mlok is truly superior is when attaching shit that is zeroed to the rifle, like lasers and shit.

>NOTHING WILL BE MOUNTED TO THEM
I'm not sure if I've seen many ARs with literally nothing mounted to them. most I've seen have atleast a foregrip.
you're a stupid faggot and need to fuck off if your argument is literally
>it doesn't matter because I'm retarded and won't use it

You might as well walk up to a race org and say
>hurr why do you guys have grippy tires and fast cars? You know 99% of people don't need them, right?

>magpul
>not literally the biggest name in the industry

what retarded dickmod shill made this? m-lok has substantially more industry support.

Keymod is fine if you like dicks all over your gun

whatever’s cheaper. its all the same.

they look like little penisies

Weight diameter aesthetic and cost are far more important to me than if it's keymod or not.
My rail is a cheap as shit UTG and while /arg/ will shit all over it, I love it.
Seriously, what is wrong with those autistic circle jerking crybabies?

It just doesn't matter, keymod is fine.

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Yep.
Quad picatinny is substantially stronger than any keymod or m-lok.
Funny how the m-lok fanboys always leave out that point.

>ITT: People acting like small differences and irrelevant torture tests are the most important thing ever as a way to justify whatever they spent on their whatever.
Bad news bubba's, it's all the same.

>irrelevant torture tests
literally a 5 foot drop broke keymod.

You've never broken an aluminum rail.
You don't know anyone who has ever broken an aluminum rail.

Try mounting the rear sight even further forward.

Thought about it but this position works the best with this rear sight. Hickok likes his farther forward though.

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>I'm not sure if I've seen many ARs with literally nothing mounted to them. most I've seen have atleast a foregrip.

Which are generally made of plastic and will be the item that breaks in a fall instead of the rail, regardless of which type are used.

>you're a stupid faggot and need to fuck off if your argument is literally
>>it doesn't matter because I'm retarded and won't use it

We're talking about things that are mounted to the freefloat rail that must maintain zero. Ie things with metal mounts that are capable of ripping a replacement out. So optics (dumb) or lasers (affects probably 3 people on this board).


>You might as well walk up to a race org and say
>>hurr why do you guys have grippy tires and fast cars? You know 99% of people don't need them, right?

You're fucking retarded and your analogy doesn't hold water. I'd be telling 99% of people there's no reason to put Pirelli super softs on their Camry.

If you don't understand why VFGs aren't cogent to the conversation you should take the phone you're posting from and jam it into your windpipe as hard as you can.

mlok better than keymod in every possible area

>BECAUSE THIS GUY DOES IT ITS OKAY IF I DO GUIZ

why would a dickmod shill post an image that reflects negatively on dickmod? perhaps you are a retard?

whats the lion ball meme?
what did I miss

I have used Key-mod on several firearms without any issues.
However NSWC-Crane did a comparison test and concluded M-Loc was a more durable system.
ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2017/armament/McGee19427.pdf
The real decision for the average user is what style handguard you want to use and what attachment system is available from the manufacturer.
I have noticed that several manufacturers have started offering their hand guards in either Key-Mod or M-Loc designs. This may be due to the result of the Crane study.

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cuckholes are useless, duct tape works just fine for attaching a flashlight if wakandans break into your house at night

>took years to design
lol, it's just fucking pallet racking.

The internet claims mlok looks better, but i have an intresting accicdote:

Last 2 guns i havr put together were both for ar noobs. In both cases, when it came to handguards i first offered traditonal v. Attachment and both wanted a modern forarm. In both cases, i provided a very balanced explanation of keymod v mlok, including the fact that while keymod is still supported , mlok seems to be on a trajectory to become an industry standard and keymod could go betamax in the future. Mlok and keymod were going to cost about the same as well.
Both people, completely seperatly, chose the keymod. When i inquired as to why, both people said "honestly, i just like the way it looks more"

The first time i was just like "lol whatever" but the second time it really activated my almonds.

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>He doesn't know about M-Lok

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