>"I don't understand why there are still so many idiots in America who want to hold on to their guns. There's no debate, we must get rid of all the guns in America"
My favorite part is "there's no debate". Anybody else get angry when they hear shit like this?
There is no debate when you live in an echo chamber which is exactly what you are trying to do right now. This thread sucks and if you want to talk about gun control being bad, go tell it to the gun control advocates. Act respectful and listen though before explaining why they're wrong.
>guns in private hands are bad for muh democracy
but they'll just call it "gunsplaining"
Well if you don't know the topic well enough to give facts and site sources; to listen and then ask counter questions to make them think before you yourself go ahead and provide them the answer, then you aren't qualified and should just shut your whore mouth.
Go write your legislature and remember to vote.
Thanks
you're on Jow Forums wtf do you think faggot
Democracy is garbage
This guy's got a point man
Why else would you have started this thread other than to hear "dude ur so right lol, libruls r so dumb"
gun grabbers may be misinformed and live in fairytale land, but so do far right conservatives
Gotta listen to people. We live in a highly polarized society right now, and it's not gonna get better if we all retreat to our respective echo chambers and feed our egos with attaboys
so call it grabbersplaining back, just because everyone is as ADD as a toddler on coke these days doesnt make a simple argument that sounds good correct.
im tried of "progun" people going on about ni***ers ni**ers ni**ers, but I still wont raise a finger to take someones right to be a fucking idiot.
I hate the guns are a partisan issue. everyone should be able to understand that guns are dangerous unless you have training. mandate training and fuck off.
>”Stop spouting statistics, child murderer.”
There should be mandated training for posting your stupid opinion on the internet, yet here we are.
Not really. I stopped considering them people a long time ago. It would be like being mad at a dog for barking at me, they just don't know any better.
This but unironically.
>NEED
>No civilian NEEDS
>I just don't understand why anyone NEEDS
>You don't NEED that, you can just...
In fact can we just get a master list of gungrabber talking points?
>AR-15 is the civilian version of the military M4
>BUT GUNSHOW LOOPHOLE
>BUT AUSTRALIA
>BUT MUSKETS
>The founding fathers supported regulation of firearms
>This doesn't happen anywhere else
>If every state had gun laws like CA/NY/MA...
>PROTECT KIDS NOT GUNS
>THE GOVERNMENT HAS DRONES
>NRA HAS POLITICIANS IN THEIR POCKETS
Did I miss any, lads?
>Gotta listen to people.
You're right. And when they say they plan to disenfranchise and murder you, listen to them. So say the surviving German Jews.
>I don't understand why there are so many idiots in America that believe that self defense and personal agency are something we can, or even want to, evolve past.
no they should mandate training about YOUR stupid opinion on the internet. or are you afraid you couldn't hack it?
>if it doesn’t have wood it’s not ok
"Democracy is indispensable to socialism" -Vladimir Lenin
>mandate training
Fuck that shit.
Libs will make the training course cost 10 grand, last 3 months, impossible to pass, and require re-certification yearly.
Training and safety with a gun is important, but no right should ever have a barrier for being exercised, or the barrier will become abused by people who hate that right.
Neither of you have any sense of fun at all.
A very compelling way to write 'I know you are, but what am I?'
Please kill yourself.
I have picked up what Lefties mean by "democracy": they mean "you will be assimilated into the Borg. If you are outnumbered, your rights are forfeit and the mob may dismember you free of coonsequences".
>Act respectful
No.
>_____ is more regulated than guns.
Bro I definitely agree with you here. You have to take these people at their word and listen to the shit they say. If there's a way to defeat their argument and beat them with words, you can find it by listening. If not, and they're just hell bent on disarming everyone, then you have to listen and take them seriously and prepare yourself.
How are you helping yourself beat the anti-2A shills by retreating to Jow Forums and having another "muh libruls r dumb" thread?
We have this thread every damn day, why do it again? Stay vigilant, and participate in the April 14th 2A rally in your state's capital.
And when you're at the rally, blast that shit on your social media and show our cucked libtard friends that we won't concede to their bullshit
A guy I know posted this thing. I responded to it point by point. He won't even reply.
Gun grabbers don't deserve to be listened to, because they won't listen to you.
When a gun grabber tells you to "think of the children" in the name of gun control, and tells you that the goverment should be the only one to have guns show him this picture.
me: "are gun deaths really that much worse than knives or other kinds of death?"
co-worker: "absolutely, knife attack are actually survivable"
That's your mistake. I'm not telling you to respect them. I'm telling you to conduct yourself in a respectful manner so that you may be worthy of respect.
"Why does a civilian need an assault rifle that can blow someone in HALF???"
My boss said that one, I just had to go "yeah right?"
>everyone should be able to understand that guns are dangerous unless you have training
They're dangerous even with training. They should be treated as a tool for utility and heritage. Just like automobiles. People don't think about it but they're operating what is on average a two ton vehicle moving at anywhere from 20 to 85 mph (New Jersey's unofficial highway speed). Even at 20 - 40 mph you can easily kill someone with a car, just look at China.
"as with gun attacks, but you don't like it when those facts can be flipped on you."
This. Focus on "fence-sitters" and the like. It's easier to convince three people that are already halfway there than to try and turn one true believer.
>It would be like being mad at a dog for barking at me, they just don't know any better.
you sir, are wise
That other guy is correct, your opinions in this thread are both naive and retarded, and you should definitely kill yourself.
and you didn't say wait a minute, that doesn't sound right, i mean.. i'm as noguns as the next guy but didn't newton have a third law?
>there is no debate when it comes to guns!
>you are right!
>proceeds to shoot communist scrum in the fucking face
>ni***ers ni**ers ni**ers
Its "niggers" user. "Niggers".
What is parenting?
Fuck off you cunts. I don't need to listen to commie fags because they're objectively wrong. All the evidence is in our favor.
Fuck off you doubleniggers.
We are going to purge you lib reddit faggots. That's how polarization will end. By killing the commies like you.
>and go back to plebbit
Can't we turn their buzzshit and tactics against them?
>Why are you so eager to see women raped? (cite how often firearms scare off assailants of women)
>Why are the police militarized to kill immigrants and black people? Don't you think blacklivesmatter?
>Make a list of assault weapons owned and operated by Bloomberg's security force. Enough is enough!
Shit like that.
Because defensive gun use cases are completely buried by the media and ignored by law enforcement making stories and statistics little more than hearsay.
>mandate training and fuck off.
unless you mean that every high schooler should be required to get trained regardless whether or not they plan to own guns, you should be raped.
They literally don't care. They don't listen to reason. They don't respond to emotion. They only care about banning guns.
If you are pro-gun, they immediately turn their brains off. It doesn't matter what you say. These people refuse to listen. They are obtuse and tyrannical.
The only thing that will shut them up is a good sound beating. Then they turn tail and hide behind the cops, even though they claim to hate the cops.
They are human refuse.
my response lately is to always go "ha ha like why do you want 68,000 more people raped, robbed, and murdered every year lol"
it usually gets them so fucking asshurt their argument devolves into insults instantly and you can just sit back and smugly say "you're on the wrong side of history" until they smash their computer keyboard in a fit of rage.
if they're especially petulant and dishonest, i just say "if they try to take any of my firearms, i'll go 1776 on their asses" and move along or change the subject.
Ask how they intend to take your guns. This is actually a very good slope for them to fall down, so go for it.
>The police will take them.
So you're ok with stop and frisk, profiling, and warrentless search and seizures?
>You can't stop the US govt, they would drone strike your house!
Are you aware of the political and international ramifications our government would suffer if it used war weapons on its own soil? And what if they had the wrong intel and blew up the home of a PoC?
>Neo American Republic
>votes are based on Megatonnage owned
>REPRESENTATIVE NUKES
You forgot about me and millions of other gun owners compensating for our small penis
i am not giving up a single piece of firearms kit i have collected over the years.
fuck you commies.
except for the statistics readily available on the NIJ and FBI websites? And various private organizations like the Violence Policy Center?
it literally is as simple as "if you are for gun control you want tens of thousands of women raped"
it literally is as simple as "if you had your way my grandmother would have been robbed or killed by 3 home invaders instead of scaring them off with a warning shot"
it literally is as simple as "so you don't value human life?"
it literally is as simple as "if you are a gungrabber you are either ignorant or a piece of shit who wants more people raped and murdered. So which are you?"
it literally is as simple as "why do you want fewer women carrying guns? to make it easier to rape them?"
a pathos and ethos based inflammatory argument coming from a true moral high ground kills the leftist authoritarians argument.
the statements below in response to a "skools should be pr1z0nz shitlord" non argument say the same thing, but the diction changes the message and reaction
"a school shooter was stopped by a school resource officer less than a week after the MSD shooting
and
"so you wanted more kids to die in Maryland? What the fuck is wrong with you?"
You are never going to change their indoctrinated opinion, so instead fucking vivisect them in the court of public opinion and open the eyes of anyone watching from the sidelines.
Nah, fuck 'em. All the arguments have been made. Any attempts for rationality using facts or data have been exhausted. Data and truth don't matter anymore, that's why you'll lose your job for saying violent shitskins cause all the crime. I'm just waiting for the AWB to pass in a few years.
Gonna be a fun time.
If you don't turn over your AR-15 the gumment will drive an M1 Abrams through your door and kill your kids with an MQ9
I wish.
>DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BAN
Topkek
What about:
>RAPE BAN
>MURDER BAN
>BULLYING BAN
>BEATING BAN
>SUICIDE BAN
>PEOPLE DOING BAD THINGS TO OTHERS AND THEMSELVES BAN
So law abiding gun owners can enjoy putting holes in paper while these cucks feel safe taking their wives' sons to the school?
>DRUNK SEX HAPPENS
>RAPE HAPPENS
>UNWANTED PREGNANCY HAPPENS
>I REGRET SLEEPING WITH THIS GUY HAPPENS
>I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IF WAS GAY NOW I REGRET IT HAPPENS
Your answer:
>"EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE MANDATORY SEX EDUCATION AND TRAINING"
You're dumb.
Also conceal carry already demands training to pass the licence.
The rest is an affair of personal responsibility, a thing any functionnal adult should have but you obviously lack.
Because last time I checked having a driver's licence isn't a shield against DUI or being a muslim terrorist rolling over white people.
tl;dr: fuck off anti gunner.
imagine if we banned all the things that are illegal.
Emotional manipulation and mocking are really the best tactic to use on people who won't listen to logic and are not open to any different realities.
The only reason they care about this so much is because they need to feed their ego, and you can tear them down and humiliate them by telling them they want women to be raped and handicapped people killed.
Often they will double down to the point of absurdity, and admit that they don't care if more women are raped, which completely ruins their entire position and removes all sympathy for the cause. We are attacking the root of the issue; they care about their ego over what causes the least suffering.
you're absolutely right
>the police will drone strike your house!
this is the stupidest shit i've ever heard. if i hide in a city amongst people, they have to send police after me. also, unless they can somehow confirm i'm actually a threat worthy of a drone strike, they won't waste a drone on me.
a police state needs police, plain and simple.