I'm scared of nylon plastic, steel and even aluminum make me feel so much safer...

You’re in the right. There’s hundreds if not thousands of cases of LE, SOF dudes like seals and marsoc having Glocks explode or melt from high temperatures overseas.

This is why everyone is making the switch to metal framed guns good thinking op.

If you like steel. Buy steel.

I laugh at all these torture tests because people are using brand new, out of box guns.

The polymer is still fresh and flexible. In 40-50 years that will be still and brittle.

Like another user stated, the PSA torture test is funny.

Except he doesn't like steel, he thinks he does. There's a big difference.

You probably do, becase I own more """assault rifles"""" than you.

Anyways, metal wont fuckin blow out like the glocknade will. Usually the slide blows off.

Anyways, itll be interesting to see how all these polymer guns are 50 years down the line.

>You probably do, becase I own more """assault rifles"""" than you.
Shit, the way you post there's a 50/50 chance you're nogunz. Cause from my experience only old retarded fudds and kids who only know about guns from video games think there's anything wrong with polymer guns.

>itll be interesting to see how all these polymer guns are 50 years down the line.
Considering there are still plenty of gen 1 glocks, 36 year old guns, I think that's a pretty fucking retarded thing to wonder.

No one is switching to metal frame guns, the army just ditched the glorious M9 for a gun with more polymer than a Glock has and it's not even drop safe.

are you really this dumb or just pretending?

>The polymer is still fresh and flexible. In 40-50 years that will be still and brittle.

where do you get these wild ideas?

that polymer won't be brittle until it's left in a hole for 1000 years

It's a fact retard. Go look it up yourself if you don't know. The good old M9 is going away. To be replaced with a plastic pistol.

so before we go any farther, are you drunk? I've yelled at enough drunk people already tonight

>The steal is still finished and solid. In 40-50 years that will be rusted and brittle.

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he failed chemistry class, don't worry about it.

You are literally retarded.

I work with plastics you fucking mong.

Plastics when aging become brittle.
When theyre dumped in a hole, they literally dont degrade. Light is the enemy.

I have a rifle from the 1930s that still has the plastic buttplate. It has some scuffs, you can tell it wasn't babied. But no cracks. Doesn't feel brittle just feels like plastic

What bothers me is that polymer guns will always have a failure to feed if you limpwrist them. I mean yeah just don't limpwrist but you never know if you have to fire with a damaged hand or something

Youll be wondering when you hand down your nerf gun hybrid to your grandson and it blows his hand off.

I'm about a six pack in thus far.

>rusted

If you store your guns like a nigger.

My 80 year old mosin doesnt have a spot of rust on it, you retarded noguns.

No, not light, UV light. Because guns are often left outdoors for centuries at a time, right? No. Even when carried, it'd be in a holster and likely under clothing, meaning there will be very little UV exposure.

Steel is far, far more vulnerable to degradation over time.

Aluminum will probably wear down and crack over the same timeframe, unless you're never shooting it.

Practice your offhand shots if that's a real concern of yours, some LEO agencies train to be able to do that just in case of injury to the primary shooting hand.

Working on some merlot myself

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Im a chem major you retard.

You dont have a clue how plastics work.

Nice a person of refined taste I see.

Ooh wow it survived being dropped from a plane unto some soft dirt. Bet it was unloaded too and the center of gravity made it fall on the steel slide. Very impressed.
Now show me someone taking a fully loaded Glock and slamming it against concrete frame down.

as opposed to properly storing a polymer gun, which seems to entail leaving it under a tanning light in a puddle of water, since otherwise the plastic would never break down

>chem major
anybody can major in anything, once you have a degree it'll mean something.

ok, fair enough. The first post you replied to was sarcastic. That person knows that polymer is taking over the market, and was mocking the idea of metal guns by insincerely stating they were making a comeback.

Also the military version of the p320 IS dropsafe, which makes sig so much scummier. They saw the problem, fixed it, and then didn't recall it.

Plasric becomes brittle overtime. Look up plasric degasification.

Not as stupid as you apparently

Ok, but youre the faggot arguing that I never passed a highschool chem class.

What makes you an authority on plastics fuckface? i atleast know what they are, how they work, and how they fail. What do you have?
>inb4 a glock hurr hurr i am expurt noaw

Ignorance is bliss, nigger.
Trusting plastic is literally pants on head retarded.

So does metal. Look up stress corrosion cracking.

Although in its defense, this usually takes a very mildly corrosive medium (just pure water will do), but since your gun isn't likely to be immersed in such a solution for many years, whereas shittier plastics degrade in sunlight, I'd still rather trust metals.

I don't even know why I made this point I just refuted my own point

But muh solid steel

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Damn, either my tolerance level is way down or I been off the net too much lately missing sarcasm like that, either way that is some serious bullshit about them fixing the drop safety issue but not bothering to fix them all.

Lol you fudds crack me up

Take your Ambien, gramps

Again, did this blow off a hand?
No. No it did not.
Shut the fuck up.

>just because steel gun fails, we should start making them all out of weaker materials now! It just doesnt matter!

Idiot.

The purpose of argument is to find the truth, not necessarily to find that you are right.

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Im a 22 y/o with a background in polymer engineering you retarded faggot.

You morons with your shitty nerf guns crack me up too.

Except every pressure-bearing component is made out of the same fucking material you absolute mongoloid. I bet you're a battle rifle tard too.

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Sure buddy, and I gradutated top of my class in the Navy SEALs

I didn't want to do this, but...
I am Gaston Glock.

>inb4 a glock hurr hurr i am expurt noaw
Nah, I only carry H&K forget that poorfag shit
> i atleast know what they are, how they work, and how they fail.
Really? All plastics? Or do you just know a little bit about certain plastics, and have zero understanding of the polymers used in firearms and the stresses they can handle as well as first hand experience with how they age?
Because again, I own both polymer and metal framed handguns (although only aluminum, no steel because I want my first 1911 to be a fucking retarded thing that costs way more than I can drop right now) and have been shooting them for a long time.

Because stating 'plastics become brittle over time' is as useful as stating 'steel rusts over time'. It is true, but it is also far from usefully true. It ignores storage that would eliminate or greatly diminish those effects and ignores the necessary timeframe involved. So, in 100 years when glocks start breaking down, my grandkids will probably print a new glock frame, because 3d printing had better be up to it by then.

right, I'm sure every military on earth, every police department on earth, and every gun company is wrong. All of them. Only you and a select band of enlightened geriatrics know the truth.

>every military on earth
Most still used alloy or steel framed handguns

Yeah cause most of them are the militaries of poorfag countries and yurofaggots who spend all their military budget on welfare for sand niggers.

Go be dead somewhere else.

>military
>police department
>gun company
Oh yeah, because these guys are totally concerned with quality and not manufacturing cost.

Stainless steel won’t rust unless you put it in salt water, even then it’s pretty damn resistant to rust, even more so when you chrome plate it.
Plastic becomes brittle just from sitting in a climate controlled safe over time.

hmmm

it will be interesting to see what Glock comes out with now that Gaston is no more

Only if they're poorfag nations using ancient shit. Relevant nations are using glocks, H&Ks, and in France's case, the Sig SP2022.

If that were true they'd never upgrade and keep using the same shit. Buying cheaper guns is more expensive than keeping the old ones.

>moving the goalposts this hard
stay btfo mutt

>3d printing your own lower in 100 years.

Fuck man, if we make it that far.

I guess. I just would rather not take the chance. Plastic is werid shit, even if it is heavily engineered space tech. I like steel, even though its heavier. I also try to avoid aluminum frame stuff, but hey man thats just me. I like knowing i can (probably) trust my metal for generations

Muh Glock,
muh hand

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Except I'm not the first guy, cuckboy

France's Army still uses the 92.

It's not about upgrading anything, it's about shit being FUBAR and needing replacement.

Damn there sure are a lot of Fudds in this thread. I thought old people were supposed to go to bed early.

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He's not dead you retard.

>weebshit

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>over time
Yeah, a really, really, long time.

>Fuck man, if we make it that far.
You are part of the society of disposability. You may have to replace things every fifty years. Thankfully, unlike your forefathers who had the same plow passed in generation from father to son for hundreds of years, you can afford more than one tool. You can buy like, a hundred plows if you want. And that's a pretty great tradeoff to maybe it breaking and instead of starving and dying because your tool broke and the blacksmith's a jew who won't fix it, you can afford a new plow. Or gun. Or whatever.

but that shouldn't have happened with their steel frame guns user

Protip: Militaries put way more rounds through their guns than civilians. Unless they were using mithril frames they were going to get fucked eventually.

Let me show you my three folders

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>disliking Holo
Do you have a mental problem? Do you need help?

>pedo asking if someone else has a mental problem

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There are a LOT of eurotrash posters from Jow Forums here. It's fucking crazy to see a thread get moved and the flags come on. Don't think that's what's going on here, but Jow Forums is basically overrun with clueless retards.

please leave this website.

No, more like 50-100 years, less even.
Why not take a Glock gen 1 and run some structural tests on the plastic?

>Why not take a Glock gen 1 and run some structural tests on the plastic?
That's honestly not a bad idea, but I'm really not committed enough to winning an internet argument to spend a few hundred dollars.

Whether metal or plastic fails is due to the strain caused by the excessive force of ie a bad reload for example. Once strain reaches a certain point (fracture point as seen in picture) it'll break. This changes depending on the material, but yes METAL won't fail as easy as polymers (depending on direction stress is going (compression vs tension)).

Bending is okay in the elastic area. Once it gets to plastic, but before the next part of the graph (if I recall correctly, it might be before plastic deformation, but certainly not elastic deformation). If subjected to enough strain in plastic, it'll go until strain continues or if it stops, then it goes back down a little bit along the function of Young's modulus...

Yes, in some cases it would be fine to have some strain, but it is better if plastic deformation alone can be avoided.

As for all this shit, I prefer metal, but glocks don't shoot too bad. But I prefer my 92s.

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>catastrophic failure
>still has hand
>frame just ok
Lol this BTFOs you.

>Plastics when aging become brittle.
>Light is the enemy.
Apparently they didn't teach you about light stabilizers where you work.

>still has an injured hand
ftfy

>frame just ok
You would prefer to have a piece of the chamber flying at you rather than chunks of plastic?

Also, mind posting the source of the pic in ? You know, just to make sure those two are actually related.

guns are though
guns kill people

Yes

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>Hillary Holle
designed to destroy you

>minor cut, MAYBE needs stitches
Vs
>missing finger & confetti thumb

>I would never consider a polymer firearm

Likewise. If it won't be around in 100 years for another kommando it can fuck off.

Honestly this is why I really like the AR-15 platform and design. In every instance I've seen of a kaboom the shooter never loses a finger or anything thanks to the 7075-T6 aluminum. Can't say the same for Glocknades though I think if you upgrade the barrel to one with stronger steel it takes up more of the explosion and leaves your hand unscathed though I'm not entirely sure.

Where's the source, fuckboy?