So how historically accurate is this anime trying to teach me the technical specs of all the main battle tanks of WW2...

So how historically accurate is this anime trying to teach me the technical specs of all the main battle tanks of WW2. I'm not sure I trust the Japanese.

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>This tank perfectly encompasses the three elements of speed, offense and defense making it the best medium tank of World War II
What the flying fuck? Couldn't they have gotten some military otaku to figure this shit out for them instead of making Fluffy say all this drivel?

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>the best
Best at killing its crew

There are videos of corpse recovery from destroyed Shermans, it's not much better

>Japanese autism
We're talking about the same people who invented a self balancing motorcycle that you can literally take for a walk like a dog and it will follow you

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not interested get back to your den

/a/ here
They actually do have a consultant for shit like that. It’s the same dude who helped them make Strike Witches and Upotte (which was pretty neat if you’re into guns and anime)
Not saying it’s 100% accurate, but they have somebody who knows their shit helping

>it's not much better
The Sherman was better than the T-34 in just about every possible way.
The T-34 had
>2 man turret
>shit ergonomics and internal space so small penetration hits everyone
>fuel tanks in fighting compartment
>dry stowage
>no turret basket
>shit manifacturing
>gear shifts require a hammer
>lol no radio
>gun is inferior to Kraut counterparts
>piss-poor optics
>unreliable

>57,224 produced
>44,900 Lost

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It's not even 30% accurate. The T-34 was by no means the best medium tank of WW2 and a cursory Google search would lead you to this result instantly. Whoever their consultant is is a complete hack.

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Yukari gets overly excited about tanks. She also called the Panther the best medium tank of WW2

I think Yukari might actually be a bit stupid. No wonder she'd get bullied, being a moron. Deserves it as well.

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Kindly delete this

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I really wish I had that bullying pasta where she gets treated like the autist she is.

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Yukaris fist would wreck your face like a FlaK 36 shell wrecks a Sherman.

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I figure their "consultant" is probably just some guy from the Japanese equivalent of Jow Forums, though.

I want Yukari to make a tank blog.
I would absolutely listen to her explaining everything about the Panzer IV.

>I am weeb trash Jow Forums

Good news, I dug it from the archives.

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She's a dumb autist who falls for fuddlore equivalent myths when it comes to tanks. It's like she's got all her information from War Thunder or something.

Here's part two.

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>It's like she's got all her information from War Thunder or something.
Something like that. One of the consultants works for/with Wargaming (World of Tanks)

Christ, no wonder it's so full of shit.

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>They actually do have a consultant for shit like that. It’s the same dude who helped them make Upotte (which was pretty neat if you’re into guns and anime)
No its not. You just end up with characters breaking the flow of a show by pausing to infodump a bunch of Wikipedia-tier trivia mixed with 3rd-hand fuddlore. Its not even interesting because if you're more than passingly interested in guns (ie: if you're the target audience), then its all surface level shit you read in library books as a kid in middle school.

What, you don't like a supposed Jow Forums autist talking about guns and tanks as if she was just reading through a technical manual?

But the tank models look accurate, and the show is fun. Mission accomplished. Some WG guy was also in the credits for Izetta

japanese are aryans therefore always right. subhuman shits/k/ins btfo. go die for Israel lmao.

Yeah, but Yukari's autism is stillpoorly done. She's portrayed as an autistic tank otaku who's obsessed by the simple technical data of the tanks, yet somehow makes these fuddlore type mistakes.
It's like you'd portray some autistic trekkie who doesn't even know the captains. There's so little effort put into it, when they genuinely could've just contacted some random military otaku for this.

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they did though. Nicholas Moran ring a bell?

youtube.com/watch?v=7ho8TU_JpoI&

>they did though.
So how did they still get it so wrong? Did they do the usual and ignore what he said? Not ask him about half the stuff they put in?

get me up to speed, just so we're on the same page. Do you mean anything in the four pictures above?

Take the T-34 being the best medium tank of the war for example. Especially since she's talking about the 76 model. Or are those photoshopped and I've been bamboozled?

I meant when the turret gets hit, it gets hit. Plenty of Allied tankers had their burned bodies dragged out of tanks too. the t-34 might have been more of a death trap, but they all were one to some extent

>Uses Grandfathered pre-1900 field gun shell casing.
>Not even based off of high velocity AA gun.
>Same or better penetration than 76mm M1.

Bullshit meter off the charts. It could not even penetrate more than 80mm of armor.

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Except that the T-34 had dry stowage for ammo, so upon cookoff or fire, which it was especially vulnerable to because fuel in fighting compartment, the T-34 would almost always go up in flames and be destroyed utterly. The Sherman in turn with wet stowage and better fuel location would not invariably turn into a bonfire and force any crew taking cover under or next to it to run into the open.

well, translations may be iffy.

And can i just say the whole "best" this is weird. It was the best tank for the soviet union, easily. They don't car about the people, just need a fuckload of tanks. It was great for them. Best of the war depends so much of what yopu need from the tnak, so i kinda think that's a stupid question to start with.
I believe the guys at aberdeen said the F-34 was good

>The F-34 gun is very good. It is simple, reliable, and easy to service.

>It is necessary to admit that the muzzle velocity of our medium tank gun F-34 is insufficient, and is lower than that of the American 3" gun. However, the muzzle velocity of the American 75 mm gun on the M3 Medium and M4A2 tanks is also insufficient.

Or Yukari is a Best Girl who can differentiate between bad design and limitations imposed by a lack of material and destroyed industry due to strategic bombing, unlike greasy War thunder faggots like you.

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How can anyone call the T-34 the best of WW2 when the T-44 was literally produced 1943-1944?

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Yukari may be autist as fuck, but I kinda feel sorry for the poor girl.

Of course, most of you flabby pieces of shit would talk tanks with her just in the hopes of getting laid. Yay for white knighting.

The rest of you autist fucks would hate her because it's the edgelord thing to do.

I think that shit is on purpose. A bit like the history team always gets a bunch of things wrong

It's ok boys she admires American industrial capacity! pick a tank and if its an option ill take screen caps for you. bear in mind its strictly ww2 tanks

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The T-34/76 was a faulty tank to its core and a poor design. No radio, two man turret, poor optics lowered the tanks combat effectiveness to a fraction of the German equivalents it was facing.

You're a dumb. Read, nigger, read.

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because we also had shit like the pershing and calliope by the end of the war but no one counts them because they didnt fucking fight in shit like Kursk

I would interrupt her with a "Ackshually" every single time she makes a dumb mistake and I'd then berate her on not even reading a Wikipedia article's worth on the vehicles she claims to be praising.

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i wouldn't say that. Many of the german tanks it was up against at first were just not capable of penetrating the T-34s armor. The rest of it was much of a mess, but it was a mess that could be built quickly. Which to them was more important than getting the best possible tank

>Have Russian tanks
>Get a Russaboo Voice Actress who's actually into tanks
>Only use her for a few seconds now and then

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she had her moment in the movie, and I was happy to get even that

Because it still had the ZiS-S-53 and was not much of an improvement.

>giant fuel tanks on rear of chassis
if the years worth of video games I played as a kid taught me anything thats an easy way to blow it all up. always aim at gas cans

Yeah, PZ III models up to the J had trouble penetrating it frontally, but due to the poor command and control and lack of radios on the T-34s, the Soviets never managed to achieve anything of note during the brief period of ground superiority they had. The Germans could immobilize and then destroy the T-34s and KV-1s, could destroy them from the air, with artillery and with some of the Pak 38s they already had, as well as Flak 37s.
Just look at battles like this for how the Soviets performed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brody_(1941)
>The rest of it was much of a mess, but it was a mess that could be built quickly.
They could've built it just about as fast without it being complete shit. The two man turret was a serious design flaw that makes very little sense, especially in their situation. They needed functional tanks that could face the German armored formations, which the T-34 genuinely could not do.

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thats not how reality works

Behead those who insult the tank fairy.

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>blow up gas reserves
>tank has no fuel left to move
>easily picked off while sitting still

even if it doesnt explode into fireworks like an action movie it still works very well

Landships >>> Tanks

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Random military otaku are much less informed than you'd think. I've known a few and they're walking fuddlore factories. It makes sense when you consider how limited their access to primary source material is, though, pretty much everything they know is based on subtitled History Channel shows and Japanese military magazines that hype the fuck out of everything and repeat shit they read in old American books. Add to that the fact that the Japanese are a people who struggle with accepting new information that conflicts with "common knowledge" and you get a really horrible climate for historical accuracy.

Meanwhile the rest of the tank company proceeds to kill you because you're aiming for some fuel tanks instead of destroying the tank.

>T-34 perfectly blended unreliability, poor design choices, slowness, lack of ergonomics, and high likelihood of crew death to become the best Md. Tank of WWII!
At least the T-34-85 wasn't complete trash. Just still not good at all.

I suppose I'll have to start calling them military autists instead of military otaku then.

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I get the feeling Yukari is one of those nerds that cant even keep her own fandom in check

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Why? It means obsessed, not experienced.

Because someone who is obsessed with a subject should at least have some basic understanding and information on the subject. I think calling someone a mil autist represents this better than just calling them a military otaku.

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>tank
>KwK 43 equal to KwK 36
When will this fluffhaired airhead stop misleading her audience?

>landships
The only good about them is the deliciously thicc delinquent inside.

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Do they seriously reuse this single frame over and over or did some faggot make a bunch of fakes?

you could put a hole in it and it would leak out
there would be no explosion
if you are very lucky it will start to burn

Not by any means. JAV otaku have seldom actually touched a vagina, anime otaku dont necessarily have any knowledge of how anime is made, food otaku cant necessarily boil water. I think you're projecting some barrier to entry onto the term that really isn't there.

>if you are very lucky it will start to burn
Which is good because that shit will leak through the vents at the back of the hull

Posting one of the last caps im going to make before bed. the whole "tank documentary" is uploaded on AB if anyone wants to watch it

Yukari is a silly girl

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I'm projecting, yes. What kind of otaku deserves to be called that if they know less of the subject than I do?

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No, that genuinely is her expression in like 80% of the frames. no edits involved

>most of you flabby pieces of shit would talk tanks with her just in the hopes of getting laid
Uh, no.

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Don't forget that "otaku" is a derogatory term that some of its subjects have embraced. It just means some loser who's completely obsessed with a subject, being an actual expert on something may well actually disqualify you from otaku status.

T-34 wasn't really that good, but it was decent, still better than most of german tanks (until Germans made Tiger and Panther) and easy to produce.
But eventually soviets modified it and made T-34-85, and it became reeeeeally good.

IDK what you want me to say. An obsessive enthusiast by their nature soaks up information on a subject, it doesn't mean they soak up correct or unbiased information. So an otaku may "know" more on a topic than you, but what they know might be wildly skewed by the source that relayed it to them or just straight bullshit. Otaku is just a type of person, not a qualification.

What you mean is they have some guy who watched "top 10 greatest tanks" by discovery channel once. The "t-34 was a perfect balanced tank" meme comes from tv hype. Its real advantage was that it was good enough to work as a tank if you squint but you could also produce a fuckload of them.

>But eventually soviets modified it and made T-34-85, and it became reeeeeally good
he T34-85 is widely regarded as the best tank of WW2. In one incident, an entire company of Tiger 2's attempted to destroy a lone advancing T34-85 only to have all their rounds bounced by the T34's superior angled armor. Said T34 dispatched all the Tiger 2's with a single shot to their frontal armor that was constructed of pig iron. Wartime records indicate that the T34-85 had a K/D ratio of 50,000,000:1. The single lost vehicle due to the crew drinking too much in celebrating their 1000th Tiger kill, and then driving their tank into a 20-feet deep river of German blood. Fear of the T34 was so great, that Germans would immediately surrender upon sight of them. The prisoners were then forced to lie down, and promptly run over by T-34's to avenge the 6 million Jews. Many historians contend that the Allies only won WW2 because of the T34-85, and by extension, the T34-series as a whole.

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But why would someone who is enthusiastic about a subject not even try to verify their information? I don't get it.

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She's just a kid

Sounds like garbage.

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A dumb kid.

A kid who faceberg-tier normies openly espouse their desire to fug in pixelated meme images.

Last cap and I'm off to bed, c'ya folks

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Another tank fact from yours truly, Yakari! The U.S. Ordnance Department was aware of the Sherman being a 'Tommy Cooker', and attempted to implement various measures to address this issue. The design team was lead by Sheldon Rosenstein, a convicted child-beater, arsonist, and avid necrophiliac. Sheldon was reportedly pen-pals with Shiro Ishii, and Oskar Dirlewanger. When questioned about these letters outgoing to hostile countries, Sheldon replied that he was merely exchanging 'tips and tricks'. Sheldon's team designed a mechanism that would lock the crew hatches shut, thus trapping the crew, when smoke was detected inside the sherman after being penetrated and set alight. Not only that, but apparently there was also a following feature that was a re-take on the Brazen Bull. When the crew was burning to death, their screams would be amplified by speakers that projected outside the tank. The U.S. Ordnance Department justified these features by proclaiming that the Germans would be frightened by the hellish screams of the sherman crews being incinerated, and allied soldiers would be more motivated to fight hard, lest the same fate befall them. Sheldon also later devised a system that had a 1 in 59 chance of setting off an explosive charge in the ammunition storage every time the Sherman's engine was turned on. Supposedly, this was to 'test the crew's luck before battle'. This innovation was well-received by the U.S. Army, but was rejected for budgetary reasons. Upon receiving news of the Army's rejection, Sheldon bludgeoned his manservant to death with a fire iron in a fit of unstoppable rage. Years after the war, Sheldon tragically died in a fire, of which he had started in a New York orphanage.

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They might not have the means to, or culturally not take it into consideration; assuming accuracy as a given. English literacy isn't as big in japan as anime suggests, so the only source your average jap otaku might have would be jap language websites and magazines, who more likely than not just translate articles from American gun rags. They cant know what they cant know. I mean, look at all the people in the US who perpetuate the M16=jammotatic or AK=most reliable memes, and they have the whole English speaking internet at hand if they ever wanted to check their accuracy.

Well, it was good enough to capitalize on the production lines in place and massive edge in raw production capacity, just like the sherman. Fuddlore tv historians love to hype the tank as an overreaction to the MURICA WON THE WAR sentiment back in the cold war days, but you have to consider logistics too. Of course the sherman is a better tank on account of not being designed by vatniks with vatnik technological (as in, actual production-related) limitations, but it did its job. Life is cheap, ball bearings are expensive.

It's almost as if people don't like needless exposition regardless of what it's about since it breaks pacing and flow.

thats a big turret ring

True if you change decent to terrible and reaaally good to pretty good.

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This is pretty much exactly the case, and even worse they have the History Channel in Japan and it airs the same shitty 15 year old fuddlore documentaries we get on AHC in the middle of the night.

Eat this!

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This is stupid.

>ywn be hugged

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Good. You do not deserve physical comfort.

Why not? Are you literally incorporeal?

It's not very accurate

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Explains why we all get those T-34 wank threads now and then.

3 Shermans = 1 Tiger

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