Which "role" do you see yourself fulfilling in a militia? It could be conventional, guerilla, whatever.
Rifleman
CQB-SBR/SMG
CQB-Shotgun
DMR
Machine Gunner
Custom Role
If I could get my hands on one, I see myself carrying the machine gun, preferably a PKM.
Cannon fodder
Drummer boy
Suicide bomber
The guy in charge.
FBI informant
Medic
I used to be an EMT
Is that Bobby Hill, second from right?
Well, I own a PTR91 and I'm a mechanical engineer, so...combat engineer?
Kek, militiafags btfo
Undercover ATF agent posing as the group's "acquisitions" expert.
Do you wear a suicide vest or put the explosives inside the drum?
Spec Ops.
One of the biggest indicators that a militia isn't worth your time is that it's set up like a conventional military section or platoon, with specialist roles.
Drummer boys traditionally also handled diplomacy against other armies with certain drum rolls that signified requesting diplomacy. So just do that, get up real close then blow up.
Then again, putting explosives innadrum would fuck up the sound but no one would come close to me seeing me wearing a vest so I don't know.
Gardener
Made me laugh
But in a SHTF scenario where a militia is needed I'd be CQB carbine master race cannon fodder. I might last two gun fights at best.
Explain. I'm too autistic to understand your implication(s). Why would this type of militia not be worth the time?
Damn. You guys that desperate to die? What would be your battle cry?
I think the implications is that they're either tryhard wannabees and not likely to actually form correctly. I have no experience with them though.
Different user;
If you think you're going to have designated roles in a militia it better be fucking huge and need an organizational structure like a conventional force or it's a bunch of people LARPing as real soldiers
A true militia will be composed of people who are able to operate with each other regardless of circumstance since you're co-dependent and likely won't have combined arms support. As such, everyone having a roughly similar skillset and experience in everything is almost mandatory to function properly.
You'll maybe have people with experience in each of those subjects train everyone up, but you're not going to try and be some fancy shit when there's no-one within the organization to train you in such a specific manner, like what exists within the United States Army for example.
>Damn. You guys that desperate to die?
I'm just being realistic, I'm just a civi with firearms and some basic knowledge aka cannon fodder. I'd be AlQueda'd by vets. Sure you think you can survive and that's your hope but hope and reality don't mix.
tHE one that ull never evvvvvver FUCKING SEEEEEE
What if you put the explosives in your ass? Stimulate your prostate before kaboom?
Dying a pathetic death at the hands of my country’s military after I take potshots at them and get lit up
Charismatic leader/idol
>What would be your battle cry?
"Not in the face!"
Good explanation. So you think it's best to have a "jack of all trades" kind of approach?
Now we're talkin'
head wizard
For the overwhelming majority of militias yes
Now, if you have some people with REALLY fancy experience (read CBRN response or similar), then you can start to be a bit more specialized, but only at the really high-level.
Anyone and everyone in a militia should be able to operate within a CQB environment, in a field environment and anything else that might be experienced together. Rifle drills and drills in general are better than pretending you know what to do just by watching some videos.
Pool some money, send a guy or three to gunslinging classes, have them come back and teach everyone what they learned, make sure everyone can do the same.
Specialization should be technical skills which a member should learn on their own, meaning gunsmithing, auto-mechanics, logistics, etc. So there's less overlap and more important things being covered than being a specific type of cannon fodder.
You wanna know how you can really take off as a militia and gain support? Be active in the community. Do souplines, volunteer in a standardized and non-autistic uniform. Be irregular disaster response/relief. Volunteer for S&R groups and have fundraisers for charity. Fuck even get an FFL guy or two and have the benefit of an FFL and the potential of supporting the local gun community. Don't be edgy and make yourself look like good guys so if the shit ever paints the room people will support you.
As always don't do anything illegal and I'm not responsible for anything you do, this is all just educational.*
Government informant.
Everything a militia does is by definition unconventional warfare. They also literally don't have the resources for any other variety of special ops.
Mods pls, underage.
>As always don't do anything illegal and I'm not responsible for anything you do, this is all just educational.*
This purely a LARP thread. No worries.
>underage
i'm just shitposting you absolute weapon
Narrator
Medic
Hunter/tracker/gorilla warfare.
I would literally dress up like the founding fathers weathering traditional 1700's garb, a white wig, and a trifold hat, then scream "DEATH TO REDCOATS! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!" while wildly shooting my AR musket in the air to the beat of any/every AC/DC song with Bon Scott.
I'd also have a bald eagle named Freedom that's trained to spot communists from miles away just from a quick glimmer coming off an anal bead.
What role would this be called in the militia?
Grenadier Guards
1776
"gangsta rap made me do it"
Why are militia types so fat?
I'm not saying they need to be fuckin Chad roidmonsters, but being lean would be ideal.
Hard times and lack of processed junk food will eventually force everyone to be lean(er).
I'm probably really low tier in terms of combat viability. Not that I'm out of shape, but I have really terrible vision even corrected and consequently am probably the worst shooter on Jow Forums, so I wouldn't put myself in any position where I'm engaging targets from, like, any distance.
You could pilot a drone and drop molotovs/grenades.
Yeah, that's true. I'd like to think I'd be a decent tactician too but I'm not trained in it to any extent so maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Driving a truck loaded with ammonium nitrate into a US checkpoint doesn't require you to be lean, faggot
I like the way you think.
Real talk the Matt Bracken sharpshooters-in-a-pickup scenario outlined in his race war militia article "When the Music Stops" sounds plausible to me.
westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com
This would use a normal AR15 with a scope, not a dedicated long range weapon.
FWIW Mr. Bracken claims to be a Navy SEAL and although he has been attacked by the SPLC they did not make any claim that he is a fraud, which makes me think he probably really is a SEAL.
Designated marksman, cause I’m not trying to get shot. Leave the door kicking bullet sponging to my infantry friends and stupid kids who don’t know better
You can be the crazy berserker type who only knows how to use shotguns and bayonets and who gets superhumanly coked up before each op. Can't see very far? Get close.
More of a lone wolf, lurking on comms; whenever a militia force has strong enemy contact in my AO, I'll head to concealment on high ground to support and provide unasked & anonymous sniper fire.
fuck a shotgun I'm just going to use a mosin as a polearm
>Custom Role
>baker of gun shaped cookies
Someone has to feed everyone. Cooks welcome.
Same roll Im in now. Pack lunches, drive the bus, stitch clothes, kiss booboos. Someones gotta keep the monkeys marching. Logistics win wars, oldfags with boring spotless records can be usefull.
I see the militia as troops that can be augmented into conventional ones if the need arises. Protect local communities, provide intel, security, medical etc.
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Probably using a KSG with right mag having bird shots and the left having slugs.
I would use the bird shots to shoot down small enemy drones that everyone carries on their backs and use their phones to control them and gain battlefield intel.
So probably a type of sapper of some kind.
Support?
Probably Quartermaster/whatever you call the guy responsible for equipment acquisition since I'm good at math and recognize the necessity of balance cost-effectiveness with practicality.
I'd unironically insist on issuing everyone an M16A2 style weapon for ease of maintenance and relative availability of spare parts and ammunition (the ultra customized rifles militias seem to love would be reserved for trained sharpshooters so as to maximize their effectiveness/longevity). Uniforms and personal protection would be the M81 BDU and PASGT vest/helmet (again, chosen for relative availability/cost, but still providing a decent measure of protection for the user).
mechanic
>Name: Sergei
>Specialty: CQC
>Likes: cocaine, turnips, cosmoline [all dietary staples]
>Dislikes: cowards, sight picture, sexual hangups
>Weapon(s) of choice: Mosin-Nagant Model 1891/30 [one in each hand], bayonets affixed
>Notable characteristics: insanity
>Preferred strategy: Igniting several smoke grenades attached to his plate carrier, followed by a frontal charge accompanied by battle cries. Initiates omnidirectional thrusting once distance to target is closed.
PT trainer, cause almost every militia I've seen is in desperate need of one.
Armies follow this structure, roughly
Brigade
Regiment
Battalion
Company
Platoon
Section
Brick
The bottom three, perhaps four, are sized similar to a militia unit. That's really where the similarity ends. A militia unit does not have that higher structure around it, it's lacking in all the support. So it makes no sense to train or task it in the same way. Look at the HOS/HVO militias in Bosnia and Croatia. Their western advisors did not structure them in the same way as British/American infantry companies because they were totally lacking in the equipment, logistical support and transport options. Instead they had them play to their strengths.
Basically a militia unit should be formed of guys who know each other very well and maintain a high level of physical fitness. Good knowledge of the local area is a necessity. First aid courses are also a good idea. Marksmanship and shooting skill should be taught, but there's no sense in having designated individuals with particular weaponry. That makes sense in a large professional army, not anywhere else.
>They also literally don't have the resources for any other variety of special ops.
Maybe they live by the river/ocean and can afford rubber boats, wetsuit, and MP5 clones, then they could larp as budget SEALS.
I'll add to this.
There are certain things that armies do that militia units would be wise to follow, but rarely seem to. Intelligence, vetting and interviewing skill would help immensely. So would PT instructors and those experienced in political education.
One of the only successful, active, right wing and western militias (but also terrorists, really) were the Loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland. They had effective intelligence, excellent knowledge of the area and by the 1990s were far more capable than PIRA. They, and the Croatian/Bosnian-Croat militias, should be the blueprint. Of course, what they got up to was highly illegal but if we're assuming end of days type scenario then you would be far better off following their collective examples than those of the fantasy/informant ridden American militias of the Clinton era.
user, be honest 80s-90s military was asthetic, it's okay to want that back, besides you'd be more effective in woodland BDUs then the opfor in there ACUs that are ridiculously visible.
Radioman
Bro. Doesn't the radioman always die first?
>user, be honest 80s-90s military was asthetic, it's okay to want that back
Guilty as charged. But I'm also factoring in practicality here. BDUs are widely available across the entire country (and thus, quite cheap), they would also hinder the enemy's ability to gain intelligence on my organization (because there's gonna be dozens, if not, hundreds of different militias also using similar uniforms). Fancy uniforms like ATACS or Tigerstripe will allow them to identify my group much more quickly.
>besides you'd be more effective in woodland BDUs then the opfor in there ACUs that are ridiculously visible.
Well I would avoid using current US military uniforms at all for one simple reason. Friendly fire. We don't have the means to easily replace losses and we can ill-afford it. Even something as mundane as an UCP or Multicam-patterned backpack can cause another member of the unit to panic and shoot one of his comrades by mistake.
You've really thought this through. I like it.
Why do militias insist on wearing military camo?
Wouldn't they be better off wearing hunting camo? I feel like that would work better than tiger stripe or MARPAT. I guess they want to look cool.
Depends on area.
Do what I can. Listen to orders. Offer to teach others hand to hand.
I'd rather wear hunting camo too, but flecktarn isn't a terrible choice for my area either.
UCPs are phased out in combat roles.
I've just been playing far cry 5 and using the bow with a wood furnished hunting rifle and wearing hunting camo and living an innawoods rambo fantasy.
>militia in conventional war. Taber disagrees
Sweet, I hated that shit.
The guy in plain cloths with a hooded top with the hood up, pulled down baseball cap and sun glasses with a concealed handgun who sneaks up to the police officer/soldier at a checkpoint, pulls it out and shoots the guy in the head before running off.
Optional objective, attempt to steal the gucci long gun that the guy I've just shot was carrying.
the trap slave
Wouldn't you actually want to go without camo? Wear what normal people wear so you can just drop your gear and blend back into the populace when needed. Makes it a lot easier to cut and run when you need to.
None, I'm joining the government. Upon capture you do know you guys will face immediate execution right?
>designated roles
>in a militia
You better be a jack of all trades if the happening happens, you're a militiaman, not a soldier. Unless you're a quartermaster for a base or some shit you shouldn't be so set in stone.
Way to get executed as a spy immediately.
fag
Sure. But doesn't your weapon (assuming you only have 1) sort of dictate your "role"?
Because wearing some milsurp means you won't? Also the point is to not get caught.
These are why uniforms are important, under the laws of war uniformed combatants can't just be summarily executed.
I'm not sure the laws of war would apply honestly. Odds are if captured you would fall under unlawful enemy combatant and face the laws of the country you were captured in. Which could be up to life or execution for treason.
Don't stop...
This is like communists LARPing about what their role would be in after the revolution.
Hard labor is the only answer.
bet you wouldnt say that when its been months without sex, and you see my pathetic weak body chained in the basement, unatended.
CQB-SMG and Medic.
None. I work better alone.
All I'm thinking is mercy kill. 22 to the back of the neck from a distance so splatter can't transfer any blood borne disease.
But how would you be able to stay passable without access to the many things that are required to make men look like women?
when everyone is either a 0 or a 1, youre damned to meet someone.