I understand that the "AR" in Ar-15 doesn't stand for Assault Rifle, but why do you guys say they don't exist? The first assault rifle was the sturmgewehr 44, and it was litterally called "assault rifle" by the germans. It was more accurate than SMGs and more powerful. If you don't see assault rifles as another category of weapon, then in what category does the ar-15 fall?
I understand that the "AR" in Ar-15 doesn't stand for Assault Rifle, but why do you guys say they don't exist...
StuG III best assault gun
You're confusing assault rifles with assault weapons.
Assault rifle is a gun chambered in an intermediate cartridge with select fire capabilities (which means no semi-automatic only weapon falls into this category)
Assault weapon is a made up term
>assault rifle
Select fire (safe, semi, full auto) intermediate cartridge rifle. Severely hard to get as a civilian, very expensive, and have to jump through a ton of hoops to even start shopping for one.
>assault weapon
Scary looking gun, often with a barrel shroud and a shoulder thing that goes up
Assault rifle = select fire (meaning capable of semi AND fully automatic fire) rifle chambered in intermediate cartridge
Therefore, AR15 =/= assault rifle. It's simply a semiautomatic rifle/carbine.
>assault gun
This is now a Stug thread
intermediate (type of cartridge)
carbine (average size)
select fire (mechanism)
medium range (capability)
>>*small*
>sturm
>assault
No. Sturm means storm.
Sturmgeschutz = storm cannon. In good weather the Germans would use the open top Marders and Nashorns, but in foul weather they would switch to the closed top Sturmgeschutz.
Sturmgewehr could be fired from the hip while under a rain cover, 98K was more of a summer weapon because of its length
There is no stopping the Thug Stug
Please be bait
>finnish stug
What do they mean by this?
>The first assault rifle was the sturmgewehr 44
Nice meme.
People say they don't exist because how they are portrayed in the media doesn't exist. They are not non-stop warfare 30-caliber clip machine guns. They are an important step in weapons development because of a development in small unit tactics. The military uses the category of rifles because they suit well with that tactic, not because it's the most "powerful type of gun in the world" or whatever kind of bullshit you hear in media. The term exists in the commercial space solely due to ignorance. It's a convenient boogeyman. Politicians can rile against them and appeal to the ignorant. Then when the ignorant ask for them to be banned allow the politicians to figured out the details for them, due to their ignorance. The politicians then get power. Weapons manufacturers, lobby groups, rich retards, etc. all give them kickbacks to make sure whatever is, or is not, on the list of banned weapons/features. Democracy is predicated on an informed public, and "assault rifle", in its current usage, is an affront to that. Which is why people here, and in the community as a whole, look down on people who use the term unironically.
>98K was more of a summer weapon because of its length
Are you autistic?
"Assault rifles" are defined by the ATF and military as full auto with select fire. The AR-15 is semi auto, meaning one shot per pull of the trigger.
This, the Stug makes my dick hard
>be at war with the Soviets
>need sth do destroy tanks, now
>Germany is the only ally
>StuG does the job
You forgot
>lose the war
>assault rifle was the sturmgewehr 44
So you are saying the sturmgewehr 44 was the only gun called an assault rifle and the rest are not. OK that makes sense.
there's also the FAMAS
Are all rifles not at their core intended to "assault" something? Where do these dumbass distinctions come from?
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no it's not a made up term that's fake news fear mongering shilling by the NRA and drumpftards a assault weapon is a automatic semi auto military grade rifle equipped with special attachments (like a stock barrel shroud or silencer) that makes it into a machine gun and is illegal. (criminals use technical loopholes to put on these attachments and erase serial numbers and don't register them to escape the police)
Well in the case of the Stg 44, it was a mixture of Nazi propaganda (procurement in the 3rd Reich was a process lined with backtabbing,flashyness and political intrigue) and the concept that with reliable semi autos that shoot softly, infanty can advance with supressing fire faster than with 98ks and a few MG42s.
There's defense rifles too
Then what was? The M2 Carbine?
It's literally a term they made up to mean what you just described. Stupid motherfucker.
This is just actually gibberish, it's not even bait, it's just unintelligible
>automatic semi auto
if you're trying to throw down some bullshit about the fedorov avtomat i will physically remove you from the premisis
Winchester Model 1907 Select-Fire or Fedorov Avtomat, depending if you believe the latter to be a battle rifle or not
My gewehr 88 has a barrel shroud
>this is a fishing pole
>he just threw it in the water
Here’s your (you)
I've never heard of a full auto 1907
Is it a Turkshit rework to take spitzer rounds?
The French used modified examples as aircraft guns and for trench-clearing. ~2500 in total were used in combat starting in 1917.
don't comment on things you know nothing about. The Ottomans didn't receive rifles until the early years of WWI so how could they do a "turkshit rework" to spitzer in 1905?
And 99.9% of 88s in the US are 88/05s so why the fuck would I have an original
But it was the Fedorov Avtomat.
>98K was more of a summer weapon
A semi-automatic rifle is not an assault rifle or an assault weapon. It's a semi-automatic rifle.
Why do you insist on stick to this completely fictional term (that coincidentally sounds really scary and dangerous and like something that should be banned) for something we already have a name for?
here just take the (you) and go
>forgetting 'fully semi-automatic'
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Lmfao you really don't know shit about gewehr 88s do you? The commission 88s that were reworked to take 8mm mauser Spitzer rounds are turkshit jobs. Lol at your lack of knowledge.
Oops, meant for this retard shitskin
It's a semi-automatic carbine.
To be fair, both Assault rifle and Assault weapon were invent by leftist retard for scary effect.
The correct tern for Assault rifle should be Maschinen karabiner
btw if you think Hitler is a right wing, you should KYS
sorry tankie, but Finland didn't lose the war de jure
Are you fucking stupid? It's called an 88/05. OH-FIVE. AS IN NINETEEN-OH-FIVE. That is when the krauts gathered all their Gewehr 88s and 98s and made the Spitzer modifications. The krauts then sent their spitzer, charger loading rifles to the ottomans in 1914/1915
Kill yourself
Yes, he was a leftist in the sense that government involvement in commerce and society was imperative, but the American left is so fucked up in their quest for mongrelization of the population.
>StuG III best assault gun
LITERALLY HITLER ordered these to be built!!
Ban assault stugs now!!
Thank you for continuously proving my point that you don't know shit about gewehr 88 history. Lmfao
I own one nigger. You literally haven't even attempted to prove me wrong
This nigger get it
Why would I? With your 85 IQ African genes, you can at least use Google.
>lets tear up the autobahn because Hitler
>only gun
Hello newfag. Meet the sturmgewehr 57
Hitler designed this. Ban when?
I had to reread this multiple times to understand what you're trying to convey.
Like he said, I don't even think this was bait, and if it was it was unintelligible.
>automatic semi auto
>like a stock barrel shroud
Please buy and AR and mag dump while holding the end of the barrel. You want to remove a safety feature. Unironically join ksgchan
Here have one of these.
Except they did.