I've never seen any police here in the US ever use them. Why? they just always use those normie fag one holes to look "less scary" or some shit. The whole rest of the world uses these whenever they want, because they know the 3 hole is the TRUE CHAD balaclava. Not that shitty virgin "I wear and pretend I do so because it's cold". Anyone who's gone into an operation and not considered wearing one with 3 holes (if those were available) instead of a shitty 1 hole is a cuck, pussy and faggot and should fuck off Jow Forums.
Why doesn't our Police/Military use these?
Josiah Carter
Brayden Fisher
Because they're normally associated with terrorists.
Also because the one-holes are made of Nomex or other fire resistant material for various tactical reasons such as preventing burns from flashbang swarf etc.
Jose Powell
>I-I'm too afraid of being called a t-terrorist!
cuckshed
Adrian Miller
Virgin 3-hole balaclava vs Chad chainmail
Logan Reed
Because not everyone can cheeki breeki
Christopher Young
>implying chain mail can't be 3 hole
Brody Johnson
No guns in Europe so they brought back stab proof armor, amazing!
Xavier Perez
Because they're not big enough guys to wear one.
Nolan Stewart
>When your nation does not trust law enforcement to a point they need their identites protected on duty.
Adam Price
cops in third world shit holes have to wear them to hide their identity. no matter what you eruocucks think of America, we still aint that bad.
Thomas Harris
>The chad balaclava
Jesus OP, that's sad
Nathaniel Rogers
Fuck that actually looks a lot better. I take it back.
Aaron Williams
Cops in the USA also cover their faces, especially during raids. Yet they choose a virgin one hole instead of one which makes you question whether your house is being robbed by hardcore criminals or it's the cops (scares you shitless either way).
Eli Cruz
In France our cops are getting their throath sliced because they are being reconized and listed by kebabs
Kevin Wright
They're extremely common among Russian forces
Nolan Morales
Dominic Edwards
Ethan Lee
The american army/police should adopt them too to counter the pure chaddiness of Russian military optics.
Jace Walker
Because our country is not some third world shithole, or at least it's not supposed to be, you should be able to recognize the fact of the cop that shoots you or violates your rights.
Adrian Cruz
Caleb Sanchez
Luke Wright
But our police still wear balaclavas, just virgin looking ones. There is a reason why they do this, it's because
>A. it's indimidating for criminals
>B. You can still be killed for simply being a cop in the US.
They might claim it's to protect their face from scary flames or some shit, but that's a lie.
Eli Cruz
>If you wear three-hole, you are easier to identify
>They are always knitted, thus very warm (thus associated with the Eastern Europe) It fucking sucks to fry in warm balaclava for a half of a day in the sun. On the other hand, it helps with the breathing in winter time and you won't have those retarded breathing wet spots around your mouth like a mouth-foaming faggot you are. Three-holes from lighter materials look like a gymp masks.
>One-holes are usually made from flame-retardant/non-flammable materials like nomex, therefore protecting your homosexual face from various dangers
>One-holes can be worn better under the helmet, you can usually move them around to only cover lower part of your dumb head. You can't do that with a three-holes.
David Anderson
Wrong, here is a pic of US Army Special Forces operator wearing as ski mask while on operations in the sweltering jungles of Vietnam.
Kayden Russell
Actually, three thin hole summer balaclavas aren't uncommon.
Joshua Rivera
Not saying they aren't, just that you look like utter retard and they have less pros than one-holes.
Luke White
Because one holes are better
Jonathan Miller
All I see is a woman's two piece bathing suit stitched into one terrible mask.
Justin Myers
>Not using the no-hole zentai mask
Nicholas Wright
3 hole looks silly as shit.
Leo Collins
t. two hole virgin
Asher Rodriguez
America fell for the ninja meme, that's the actual real reason.
Blake Jenkins
They get better followings on WorldStar when worn
Gavin Sanchez
There is a simple answer here. If a three hole balaclava shifts around at all while you're operating your vision could get obscured, forcing you to reach up and readjust it in a high risk moment. This is much less of a issue with a single, large hole. To illustrate this point, look at the eye space that these () guys have versus these () ones.
Henry White
Way cooler than some lame shit like
Look like a bunch of nerd losers rofl.
Oliver Bennett
Why do sherrif's need camo? There are so many things wrong in that picture. Bunch of larping tactitards no doubt.
Nathaniel Diaz
Its the issue with recruiting so many ex-military they want to play soldier even on the Streets of America.
Evan Powell
>be me
>military fag
>opperating innacold
>wear 3 hole because cold as fuck
>everybody makes fun of me
>get 1 hole
>nobody makes fun of me
>hide my 3 hole and never let anybody know i have it
Tyler Long
every hole's a virgin hole if it's a virgin wearing it.
Ethan White
REEEEEEEEEEE
Jace Anderson
what the actual fuck, seriously? Can I have a source or simply more info user?
Jayden Gray
I think my point is clear
Ian Kelly
Three hole is only for faggots that want a third hole so they can suck dick.
Adam Howard
what's the problem with this balaclava?
Isaac Sullivan
Virgin chainmail vs Chad human skin
Jaxon Sanchez
Beta as fuck
Luke Bell
please answer
Oliver Jenkins
It isn't about being labeled as X, Y, or Z, it is about building cooperation and trust in the communities (AoR) that you are responsible for.
Life is generally easier if you overtly portray yourself as another human being, rather than a largely faceless threat.
Overseas we only wore neck-gaiters as truck gunners, for obvious reasons.
Life is better taking a softer approach than depending fully on being considered a hammer looking to nail something.
Christian Cox
Won't answer on behalf of France, but is a common issue among policing populations that you more or less openly live among.
IDF, Mexican and Colombian armed forces (among plenty others) have existed around such threats by obscuring their identity in order to protect their PERSEC.
For example, our terps always wore balaclavas or neck-gaiters to conceal themselves among their neighbors.
Brayden Martinez
Most of the US is not so cold as to require a balaclava. If the police must wear something to cover their face, it should be a ballistic face mask.
Gavin Gray
but have them actually target? I'd thought the prosecutors or judges would be the most target than the cops. Now.. having their throats sliced? Didn't hear anything not even in Jow Forums and i'm quite worried about them in france
Matthew Wood
Any and all are targets of opportunity, the whole premise of such efforts is to minimize opportunity through ambiguating targets.
Think OP was largely referring to the recent French hero cop that exchanged himself for hostages, his throat being cut was one of the fatal injuries he sustained.
It isn't so much about be perfect targets of retribution, but targets that have openly identified themselves as meaningful to the "system", that attackers wish to undermine.
The message is
>no one is safe, not even those charged with protecting others
TL;DR: Facemasks prevent easy victories for weak foes attempting to subvert stronger forces through targeted attacks.
Jacob Gonzalez
>not becoming the police dog
>not earning head pats and belly rubs for doing a good job
you're doing it wrong.
Benjamin Smith
That fucking loose-ass mail won't do much. Mail is only effective when there is padding underneath. Putting the padding over it is inefficient, and those parts that don,t have any padding at all will not benefit much. You're better wearing a gambeson without mail than mail without a gambeson.
And I thought that only larpers could make me lose my shit about the science of armoring.
Jayden Kelly
Good boye
Jacob Morgan
Needs an arming cap underneath.
"Mail" is a type of composite armor system comprised of at least two parts: thick layered or padded textile, and a layer of metallic ring lattice over it.
This isn't mail, it's only the exterior half of it.
But it's way too small to accomodate a padded arming cap underneath.
Armor-grade padding for mail needs to be the equivalent of about 20 to 30 layers of linen fabric. It's pretty darn thick.
Matthew Martinez
These look like fetish gear.
Oliver Baker
Man it looks like a SCR except retarded.
Justin Bell
>says the europeasant
Enjoy bowing to your literal terrorist overlords.
Dylan Barnes
The padding is for slashing and stabbing from knives, not swords and spears, you don't need much padding for that. And the stuff you think is "padding" is bulletproof armor, dumbass. Go larp somewhere else.
Juan Perry
Too much killing, not enough time. Putting it on would take precious seconds away from shooting unarmed people.
Jordan Hughes
wut
they look stupid and would not be much use with goggles or breathing apparatus
Jack Williams
>milord?
Charles Barnes
jesus christ be praised henry
Joseph Long
Why hasn't anyone said, because those masks are fucking hot?
It's hot and humid like 99% of the time in America, the south especially.
Jordan Miller
you dumb faggot, the one hole balaclava is way more practical and versatile. you'd know that if you'd ever served in the military. not only are they practically better, they look infinitely more professional than some burglar mask.
Noah Ward
Because it’s cold in Russia
Adrian Gonzalez
only chad terrorist groups like ETA and some serbian dudes in the 90s are fit enough to use that.
Ian Long
Remember when Spain had the guy’s with berets
Connor Hill
Kek
Ayden Jackson
Quite common here in slavland
William Green
Gee, François. Why does your momma let you carry two handguns?
Dylan Johnson
You faggots bitch and moan enough about muh militarized cops killing your precious niggers imagine they started rocking balaclavas
Kevin Watson
But this is typical policeman.
Full black with a beret.
Jeremiah Roberts
Also border guard uses balaclavas aswell.
Jordan Gray
is that guy eating his
Leo Reyes
Today I learned that 3-hole balaclavas are good and one-hole versions are bad.
But how does pic related fit into the equation?
Carson Sullivan
Mail was worn as a single layer armor during antiquity and the dark ages. It's steel mesh with heavy rings so how exactly is it going to not protect you against knives?
Chase Lewis
It will do fine with small blades, the padding is to protect from impacts from large blades or blunt weapons you fucking imbecile.
Caleb Perez
Europe only wears these to intimidate terrorist states like Catalonia
Dylan Allen
Why is there no linen on your bed? Do you just sleep on a bare mattress?
Kayden Ramirez
That's a edo period ninja blowjob mask user.
Lucas White
>the stuff you think is "padding" is bulletproof armor, dumbass
Bulletproof kevlar does function as padding against getting stabbed or cut.
Also, it's possible to stab you with a shiv even if you wear rings. The rings make you pretty much impervious to cuts (except for the blunt trauma part), but it's the padding that determines its effectiveness against stabbing with pointy objects. If you don't have enough padding, the mail won't help much, the rings will just make it as though the thing stabbing you is a bit less pointy, and you'll be stabbed by your rings ripping through your skin instead. Granted, it's better than nothing, but it ain't optimal.
Jack Wilson
>Mail was worn as a single layer armor during antiquity and the dark ages.
It was worn over a couple layers of heavy-gauge fabric back then. Mail was always a multi-layer system, in pretty much every culture that used it.
The nuance is is that a lot of the archeological finds didn't have any padding with them because organic materials decompose.
Experimental archeology tells us that a textile subarmalis needs to be part of the armor system for things like lorica hamatas to be effective. We know that at least the ancient celts and romans used sufficiently thick garments underneath their armor for it to function as padding.
It's just that many modern historians aren't archeologists, and are still influenced by hollywood and wagnerian operas. So they refuse to recognize that textiles can offer any sort of protection, and they consider a 10-pound sleeveless coat as "clothing".
They'd consider kevlar vests to be clothing as well if given the chance, just because they don't contain rigid or metallic components.
Austin Taylor
Obviously not you tard, that's why he's not responding. Did you expect him to write "uhm well no lol I'm just a shitposting Jow Forumstard"?
Joshua Moore
>the padding is to protect from impacts from large blades or blunt weapons you fucking imbecile
The padding was mostly to prevent penetration. Trauma from blunt-force weapons cannot be mitigated enough to prevent broken bones, even with the amount of padding that was worn in medieval times.
Historical arrow-proof mail was arrow-proof because the gambeson was. Not the mail. Arrows and daggers will have a very hard time piercing 30 layers of quilted linen.
Samuel Price
>she has style
>she has grace
>she wears pantsu on her face
Cameron Brooks
>Precision cut hole for pleasure.
Aiden Gomez
Isaiah Torres
Honestly, The 3 hole just simply looks better. 1 hole is for faggots who are afraid of being labeled "terrorists" or some shit. Implying the police's job isn't to terrorize everyone into obeying the law, same for the army.
John Wood
California law mandates no sights or optics now huh? I saw it coming.
Angel Barnes
Me on the right
Cameron Sullivan
No that's me
Ryan Murphy
Oh fuck, how did I post that picture?
Well, since I already started it:
It was a half completed build taken on my guest bedroom air mattress. Thumbhole stocks aren't California: they're just preference for a space/future aesthetic and it's very subjective. I personally think the SCR looks retarded but that's just me.