>the media expects us to believe a .223 did this
The media expects us to believe a .223 did this
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that's pretty believable, user
no, the the media said its a round of AR-15, those fuckers hurt when you drop them on your bear feets, I can believe the pic
>bullet hits bone-dense area
>surprised when theres a lot of damage
why exactly are we questioning this?
that wound in completely withing the realms of normal
You'd think there would be a lot more blood coming from a gash that size.
well there was. does that wound look fresh to you? it's been wrapped for awhile, probably smells like shit.
.223 is funky round. I served with a guy in SK that was shot through the bicep with this round and he said it felt like a bee-sting. It left a nice clean hole and he didn't lose any function of his arm. Placement has and had a lot to do with his situation and the foot picture. If I had to guess, this is a picture after the doctors have pulled the bullet out, and spread the wound to clean as much metal and dirt as possible.
Nigga he's in a hospital.
it just bounced so much!
If you understand that that's just a foot it's pretty fucking plausible.
was Cruz using a 16" AR?
That was a 223
it's also believable that he ran down three flight of stairs like this
This is what actually happens when a 556 hits your bones.
Faggot.
depends on what round he was using too. Was he using ball, hollowpoints, or softpoints?
I mean its pretty believable for a exit wound which it likely is
That's actually less damage than I would expect. Was the shooting using cheap shit ammunition? Also how it unbelievable he ran down three flights of stairs? That's not far and people have done far more in worse condition thanks to ASR.
I don't have a pic for it but I shot a hog in the leg, just a few inches the ankle and it took it's entire foot off. I've also seen some times where it passes clean through like a needle.
The 5.56 can do lots of damage if it hits bone
Well it was designed to wound, so...
>t. somebody with no knowledge of .223 wounds
pretty typical desupi. look at the kind of damage 5.56 can do with a bonded non expanding round to the foot. Chucked bone fragments radially out of the bullets path with enough force to blow out of it.
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Pic related is what a meat shot with a TAP round can look like. Rifle roudns do work.
It was a 9mm hand gun.
>THATS ALOTTA DAHMIDGE
That's about what I would expect, but I've never seen a 5.56 wound before.
What should it look like?
Worse
It's an intermediate rifle round, the dude got off lucky not to have any bones fracture.
.225/5.56 is actually capable of a lot worse.
It's why we adopted it after incredible stopping power and never before seen wounds were reported in Vietnam. These however were out of 20" barrels at near goddamn near point blank range in the jungle, but yeah... at close range, a rifle round is REALLY going to fuck you up.
Well the whole thing about .223 is it's designed to wound. Wound 1 guy, it takes two to get him off the battle field, 3 guys out the fight. You know?
Stop.
I thought that was due to tumbling from a 1:12 twist?
Fake news or pic I bet. If a no gun zone wound then there is obviously no gun involved. Just random ammo attacks.
Probably both. AOA and velocity are the most important factors in whether m193 will fragment or not. AOA is more important though from what i've seen.
What if a .308 hit your bones? I believe that would be a lot worse.
This kills the skeleton
no shit
>Jow Forums is so noguns that they don't believe .223 can do this
Id say it went in the back and came out the front. If that is the case Id say that is a believable wound.
Blood vessels constrict to prevent mammals from instantly bleeding to death.
You watch too many Hollywood movies.
Well, yeah. Any rifle round when hitting a bone-dense area of the body will cause wounds like that. .223 is just on the weaker side of things.
Don't show anti-gunners what pappy's .30-06 would do to the same area.
>.308 hits your bones.
What bones?
Guys, this is what a .223 does
looks more like .22 ;^)
That's FMJ casing you mong, not any specific calibre. Lord almighty
Could have a tourniquet or could have clotted. The body does respond to hemoraging by certain methods. When blood loss is too extreme then the body cannot slow it quickly enough which shuts the body down.
V A R M I N T R O U N D
But not as worse as a round of AR-50.
"What if a 20mm hit your bones? I believe that would be a lot worse."
THE MEDIA!
>20mm
You are like little baby.
Getting hit with an AR15 is not a big deal, you should have no problem going on a road trip to Mexico the day after getting hit with 556 round
LETS DO SOME MORE
Thats exactly what a 5.56x45 exit wound looks like in a bone dense area. There will be a liil .22 sized hole on the other side, ut once the lil round gets in, it tumbles
that hog's shit eating grin though
What if, i told you, user, that, every round, was meant, to wound?
kill yourself shill rat
>my ancestors are smiling at me
If it were .308 the foot would be blown off the ankle.
THAT'S THE POWER OF FLEXTAPE
30mm
"A round of Ar-15"
So they modified the fire to fire off pieces of itself rather than ammunition? How strange.
>"Hey there flex fans, Phil Swift here. Today to show you the power of flex seal I'm going to put a few rounds of 5.56 in some kids."
I'm not buying unless he boats across a swamp in them after he repairs the DAHMIDGE with flex tape.
it wasnt actually the barrel length that did it, it was the extremely slow twist rate, the rounds were barely stable, a lot of guns had serious accuracy issues due to it, but the unstable bullets tumbled like mad on impact due to it, leave fist sized exit wounds in a cunt
all changed when they went tight twist for accuracy, now it tended to ice pick and you need to rely on it fragmenting, which it does well out of a 20 inch, out to near 200 yards, but around out of a 16 inch only fragments out to about 50 yards.
Ellen is a 4 star now? Good for her.
>This
OP confirmed for never have shot anything or anything other than paper.
wait till you see what a tracer round can do...
Even if that bullshit were true, which it isn't, you do realize the guy in that photo was shot with M193 from an M16A2, right?
>walking to class one day when I hear a scream behind me
>turn around just in time to see the madman reloading his gun
>he's stuffing an entire AR15 into the muzzle loaded monstrosity
>turn to run but only get a few feet before I feel the Magpul stock dig in to the supple flesh of my back
>it fragments as designed, maximizing damage
Yep, depends on whether it frags or if it's a expanding round.
>Not man portable
Get out of here, crew scum.
>Not man portable
DYEL, nogains?
The absolute state of conspiracyfags
Go post in the Jow Forums flat earth thread, asshat
it could be worse he couldve been hit by a .22 and it wouldve richocheted and blown his head off
>Der
I wonder how much more damage the kid did running down the stairs.
what kind of wingspan do you have that you can load and fire it in one standard half-round action
Will .308 remove arm or leg?
12 feet maybe? No excuses, hit the gym manlet.
i wish i too were a kawaii bird man
Looks debrided op, that's when the flesh that will rot is washing and cut away along with dirt etc. I've done this on flesh wounds looks about right. A 7.62x51 would have amputated it
>Will .308 remove arm or leg?
Yes on a direct hit, easily.
how do you even begin to repair this
FBI_Defensive_Systems_Unit_Ballistic_Research_Facility_FBIAcademy.pdf
put it back together with pins and shit until it heals, then take most of the pins out
>take all then tiny chunks of metal and bone out
>put the big bone parts in the right spot
>let the body figure it out
The body does most of the work.
Good pdf
It: Jow Forums discovers that ammunition is more powerful than you think
this might be the best comment I've ever read on Jow Forums
remove tiny bitsn pin big bits together, maybe use a plate, bones grow back pretty okay
Is this the secret to BTFOing the skeletons hiding inside of everyone?
This is pretty much the opposite of correct. The rifling spins the ass heavy round to prevent yaw/"tumbling" in flight. The rotation causes it to yaw in all directions so it basically cancels out the propensity to tumble in any direction, stabilizing the round. Of course it's not a perfect system so gravity helps any downward motion and hinders any upward motion and eventually the round develops a bit of a wobble. Because of this at longer ranges it hits a little off axis and can cause massive wound channels and damage; whereas, at closer ranges there is a chance it may just go straight through. Of course if it hits a bone at any range you're gonna have a bad day
>>Muhh fiddy just needs to get within a foot and it'll strip all your skin right off
In all fairness a debrided .22LR HP would not look a lot different
Hot kek
My ex-military dad bought an AR-15 a couple years ago and first remark I made was, "Wow these bullets are like tiny little darts." Then we shot some soda cans together, and much to my astonishment, half the soda cans were completely ripped apart, basically split across one side and flattened out into an aluminum sheet. Those bullets are tiny but obviously they fly fast. Pic unrelated
That's not from a bullet you retard. It's from the leg being taken off, the bone being pulled from the joint.
No.
>non-lethal
>failed to incapacitate
Yeah, that sounds like 5.56 to me.
A lot of that comes from the fact that water doesn't compress, so a bullet flying through it is going to spread the energy through into pretty much every surface the water is touching to some degree.
It's the same principle that makes depth charges so effective.