Why are stainless 1911s generally more expensive? They're less durable(softer) than carbon steel and they have a tendency to lock up due to galling. So what's the fucking deal?
Why are stainless 1911s generally more expensive...
Stainless steel is expensive and can be a pain in the dick to machine and polish
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All 1911s are more expensive than they should be. Muh handfitting an all that. The flips pump out pretty good shit at a fair enough price, stainless and everything.
Probably just a kike tactic, muh shiny commands more shekels, ya' know?
Are there any real shortcomings or downsides to flip 1911s.
Are they the ones to buy if I want a decent quality, well-featured 1911 at a low price and don't give a fuck about brand names or muh heritage, or should I look for other things in the price range or up my range?
I'd like to know this too. Also are stainless 1911s generally less reliable?
If you consider it a downside the flip frames are usually cast, but I don't personally see that as a any kind of deal breaker; tons of pistols have cast frames and last for years and years.
I can't speak for all of them seeing as I only own one 1911 and its flip made. I just wanted a cheap 1911 platform handgun for a range toy, but when I got it I was shocked at how nice the slide on frame fitment was. If I wanted more of them, I'd have no reservations buying more flip made stuff based on my experience so far. Take that as you will though, sample size of one and all that.
I just want to say, I had a flip friend and I would always say "don't flip out dude" when he got mad. Its fucking hysterical. Hope you anons can try it sometime.
I'm actually a flip and I think the term is pretty funny. It makes for some easy jokes and it rolls off the tongue well.
Don't flip your lid
Best part is that it is a play on words, not anything stereotypical
I personally looked at RIA 1911's a few years ago, which are made in the Philippines. After doing research on them and pricing out out all the stuff I wanted to do to the gun, it was going to cost more than a Loaded model Springfield, which had all of the mods from the factory. SA uses forged frames and slides, and all custom shops will accept it for custom work. Those same shops won't touch lower quality guns. Don't know about RIA, but Taurus and the likes, they won't take in.
Part durability is another thing. In my case, I've got a Springfield. If anything goes wrong on it, the factory will pay for shipping and replace whatever at no charge to me. My sights from the factory were set up for a 6 o"clock hold, which I hated. Called up SA and they shipped it back and changed it to a point of aim hold at no cost to me. Customer service like this keeps me coming back to there products.
Wow they actually paid shipping for you? Armscor has a lifetime warranty on their stuff, but they sure as hell don't pay the shipping.What were the mods you wanted on your gun? Not sure how it was years ago, but RIA has the most typical stuff (novak sights, beavertails, ambi safetys) available around a 500 ducket price point right now.
What brands are flip guns?
I've been wanting a basic bitch 1911 for the classic muh colt forty five feels and don't want to pay boomer prices for the gun equivalent of an overrated muscle car.
Armscor is the only flip company I'm familiar with and they make RIA's, Citadels, High Standards, Charles Dalys, and STI's
I wanted the the beavertail safety, the night sights, the full length guide rod, and the forward slide serrations, everything on the Loaded model. In 2014 when I got mine, the Loaded's were going for about $800+. I picked mine up from gun broker for like $625 because they set the end time at like 2 am and had no reserve. Brand new pistol and didn't have any issues out of it when i got some good mags for it.
1911's aren't a really good platform to get into on a low budget. For $500 you can get a new Glock, M&P, Ruger, and other types of guns. 1911's are more of a premier piece and command more money. If you get a bottom dollar 1911, expect to have issues out of it with less support from the company. You pay a little extra and those chances go down drastically. If you want a 1911 that has everything you need on it, shoots great, and will require no mods, look at the Dan Wesson's. I don't own any, but the next 1911 will probably be from there. They're more expensive than the Springfields ($1200ish), but you're getting what you pay for.
Damn you scored man, that's a kickass deal. I feel you on the nice 1911's, but I went the other way. I already had a good number of the plastic fantastics. I just wanted a cheap 1911 to play around with and see if I really liked the platform. Haven't had any issues with it so far, but I gotta tell you; now that I know I like 1911's alot I don't think I'll be able to stop myself from buying one of the bigboy brands eventually. I was at the store earlier drooling over the les baers. No way I can swing that right now though. Maybe one day.
If you're just wanting to pick up a RIA or other flip brand just to get used to the platform and learn it's intricacies, then yeah go for it. I just wouldn't look at it as something to get heavily invested in money wise. But something just to tinker on, can't go wrong with them.
>and they have a tendency to lock up due to galling
The only 1911s that did this were AMT ones, since AMT would use the same grade of steel for both the slide and frame. Even then, this can be avoided by just greasing the gun up.
Ruger makes stainless 1911s, and they don't use the same grade of steel for both the frame and slide, thus their pistols don't gall. Likewise, Dan Wesson's stainless 1911s don't gall either.
RIA 1911s work fine but they're rough, you get what you pay for.
Yeah, if you want to kit out your gun, or want certain fancy features, starting with an RIA and then slapping on parts is a waste of money.
>All 1911s are more expensive than they should be. Muh handfitting an all that.
1911s are exzpensive for a couple of reasons. 1st is boomer fags have been inflating the market for decades. They are why every fucking gun company makes a 1911. They can't get enough of muh "won WWII" gun. Second is the change of the gun from a loose fucker designed for military use to a tight semi-custom dick ruler brought about by the gun gamer scene that trickled into the general market because marketing in gun rags and dumb ass fudds and brandfags shitting up the marketplace with their gear over skills mindset.
I'd argue that the flip guns are much more indicative of what a 1911 is supposed to be than the high end guns tuned within an inch of their lives. If I was in the market for a 1911 I would have no problem buying a flip gun. Also fuck Springfield Armory.
my feeling on a 1911 is this. Its a gun from an era where a man bought something, and expected it to work, and if it didn't work perfect, he would polish it himself.
any issues a 1911 has, I can usually fix so it runs functionally. It all comes down to preference, but I think factory support tends to be a lot of up selling. The only support I want is if the product is truly defective.
I know this may be news to you, but nearly everything you've ever purchased cost less to make than what you paid for it. That's how it works
>Dan Wesson's stainless 1911s don't gall either.
Well that's mostly true. They had a very brief issue but quickly fixed it
>I'd argue that the flip guns are much more indicative of what a 1911 is supposed to be than the high end guns tuned within an inch of their lives.
Idk about that. The government issue guns for sure, but the commercial Colts and Browning's designs would fit that bill. Truth is somewhere in between.
Street price SR1911 would get my vote for that
Rock Islands are closer in how they're kind of rattly, but the old Colts had somewhat nicer machining and finish than those.