Does Jow Forums have much interest in the Iran-Iraq War?

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>straight trench no zigzag

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Not many documentaries on it.

Because Jow Forums is too busy LARPing and jerking off to the wartime achievements of whites. They're content to bicker over the second World War, Russia, the US and Syria, given that's the latest playground for the former two nations, and moaning that they can't re-create the holocaust.
You really don't expect them to know about what brown people did 30 years ago, do you?

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I wonder if saddam could've crippled homeini regime and put someone who's more pliable to him in charge .
It would've been a salvation for iranians

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it did

There was a possibility at the start.
The problem was, there was no clear objective towards destroying the Iranian military. Just some territorial gains that left most of Iran intact.
By the time Saddam realized this, the Iranians got their shit together.

>Tfw I would wear star hot pants+bayonette everyday if I wouldn't be seen as insane in America

how to achieve this level of chad?
>ywn charge into battle with an RPG wearing no pants

unironically this desu

I'm a big history buff, and the actual tactics behind this war were fascinating, especially since Iran basically started throwing troops with no actual plan, and the iraqis thought of new ways to massacre the waves

I think it's
> Bored Iraqi general thinks it's a good idea
> Lol let's do it

yup those iraqi military chiefs were truly brilliant thinkers

Those are Iranians (headscarves and emblem on bikes)

Wasn't it literally just to annex a small costal province? Then after getting repelled Khomeini said fuck you we toppling the Saddam regime thus drawing it into into a pointless quagmire?

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>my niche war between 2 large but incompetant armies isnt discussed enough
>fuckin white people
And you unironically are more Jow Forums than anyone in this thread btw... butthurt sand monkey perhaps?

they're almost identically persians

Basically yes.

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>when everyone around you is incompetent
then the less incompetent one wins

I want to read about this

Saddam intended to fight a limited war instead of crushing Iran when he had the advantage. Dude was delusional and thought Iran would roll over and surrender once it was obvious the lost.

>Surprised this isn't mentioned more.
Only every wek or so.

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I've heard his motive was the six day war

Less a motive, more
>"I can pull that off too!"

Are there any good documentaries or books about this war anyone recommend?

Pic related was linked on a /hwg/ thread on /tg/

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Also, made mounds from the corpses to form an improvised pontoon bridge for their trucks to pass over. Fucking hardcore IMHO

Well, you must take into consideration that bypassing enemy trenches, fire positions and tanks to attack them from behind COULD have proven as a good way to harass the iraqis.
A fast motorcycle unit is ace for that job
>saddam would still be trying to hit motorcycle crews ravaging through the sand with 80mph

I've got some edits
Files are kinda too large on most of them though

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They are kinda silly, but they were my first edits

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I’m thinking of writefagging a story involving the Iran-Iraq War

Basically Khomenei decides not to sign the ceasefire in 1988, so Saddam orders a CBW attack on Tehran proper, killing tens of thousands and decapitating the Iranian government

Iran soon falls into civil war, primarily between the remnants of the Islamist government, Soviet-backed leftists , US-backed “Free Iranian Army/Iranian Democratic Forces”, and the Iraqis, semi-aligned with the Soviets but increasingly clashing with Moscow’s designs for Iran

Eventually the Russians intervene in mid-89, decisively turning the war in the leftist’s favor. CENTCOM rushes troops into southern Iran in response. A Syria-like situation (on steroids) develops. the US and USSR back proxies against one another while trying to avoid direct conflict, the remaining Islamists, the Iraqis, and ethnic separatists acting as wildcards. Meanwhile, the USSR (which has been under hardline control since 1985) mends its relations with China, secures something of a victory in Afghanistan, and crushes the pro-democracy movements in Eastern Europe

Eventually, American troops withdraw as casualties mount, allowing for Iran to be converted into a pro-Soviet People’s Republic. Over the next few years, Iran retakes the territories it had lost to Iraq and rebuilds its military with Russian weapons and advisors, setting the stage for an eventual WW3 in the late 2010s - early 2020s when Iran and other Soviet allies in the Middle East go to war with Saudi Arabia and other American allies in the ME, eventually drawing NATO and the surviving Warsaw Pact into direct conflict

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dumb as shit, kys

>The virgin trench Iraqi
>The CHAD underwear RPG Iranian

This as an iranian f14 aces killed like 11 iraqi planes,the f14s used to hangback in iranian airspace and hit migs with aim-54s at long rage, most of the air victories of f14 tomcat were during this war. The iraqis would try to counter this by flying f1 mirages along the ground till they were inrange of the tomcats and popping up and shooting missles

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Good chance that's a border. City, national or something.

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The war in Threads starts with US-Soviet clashes in Iran.
>On 5 March, a news broadcast from a car shows that an allegedly US-backed coup d'état in Iran prompts the Soviet Union to occupy the northern part of the country, ostensibly to prevent the return of a pro-Shah regime. On 8 May, the USA hints at deploying troops to Iran, to prevent the Soviets from reaching the oil fields in the south. On 11 May, the US Navy in the Indian Ocean is put on high alert when rumours begin to circulate of the disappearance of the USS Los Angeles in the Persian Gulf. The next day, a collision in the Gulf of Oman between the Soviet battlecruiser Kirov and the USS Callaghan leaves the former badly damaged. Subsequent discoveries by American and Israeli search and rescue vessels reveal debris and an oil slick from the missing Los Angeles, prompting the US President to warn the Soviets over the possibility of an "armed confrontation—with incalculable consequences for all mankind."

>On 17 May, the US sends its rapid deployment force to take defensive positions around Isfahan in western Iran, hoping to deter the Soviets from making further advances to the south, with a supporting role being taken by squadrons of B-52 bombers and E3 Sentries landing at US airbases. The Soviets respond by transporting nuclear warheads into their newly established base in Mashhad. On 20 May, the USA proposes a joint withdrawal from Iran to take effect by noon on the 22nd, while Britain sends troops to Europe amidst a build-up of Warsaw Pact troops in East Germany. The Soviets ignore the US ultimatum and, an hour after the expiry, are attacked at their base in Mashhad by B-52 bombers using conventional weapons. The Soviets defend the base with a nuclear tipped surface-to-air missile, destroying many B-52s. The battle ceases after US forces launch a battlefield nuclear weapon at the Soviet base.

>On 23 May, fighting breaks out between the US and Soviet navies. On 24 May, amidst rioting in East Germany, the Soviets cut the road links into and out of West Berlin, whilst offering occupying NATO forces free passage to the west. The USS Kitty Hawk is sunk in the Persian Gulf, and the US blockades Cuba. Anti-Soviet riots in major US cities damage several Russian consulates. The next day, the BBC reports on the Mashhad nuclear exchange, stating that the weapons used were within the range of 50–100 kilotons, and that cities in western Pakistan are being evacuated due to the fallout.

I love m17 gas masks
go away instagram

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Checked

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>America withdraws
Nah, more like USSR gets rekt and gets booty blasted and uses nukes, going full apocalypse.

Because it's a war about subhuman ragheads vs other subhuman ragheads. Yawn.

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Quite frankly know practically nothing about it. How and why was trench warfare feasible? I would think since they have all these automatic weapons and armored vehicles they would drop it quickly.

I remember watching a documentary on the Iraq Iran war, where the Iranians had encountered a mine field. The Iranians went to all the local school house and gathered all the children and had them stampede into the minefield in waves to clear a path for the Iranian soldiers. The children would be wrapped in blankets like a burrito so there would be something to bury afterwards.

The Iranian human wave attacks with kids was a major part of this war and their F-4s and F-14s kicked the Iraqis Soviet supplied AF to shit.

Yet again American arms , even if not American supported showed their superiority.

You would think when Desert storm rolled around the Iraqis would know what kind of damage was about to be inflicted on them from the air being they couldn't even stop the Iranians with their small amount of US fighters.

Thanks /fit

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I love saddam

iraq should've liberated teheran

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I'm confused, how the fuck do you manage to get yourself into a trench war when you have modern tanks and air support?

Iranians couldn't maintain a lot of their US made shit (the advisers and mechanics fucked off after the revolution). Plus, the revolutionary guards and the mullahs wanted to run things instead of the military. So human waves all the way.

Iraqis meanwhile had issues with command. Namely, generals didn't/couldn't act without permission from Saddam, so they didn't take the initiative when it was needed. Only a veiled coup threat convinced him to give them some independence.

I miss saddam

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This movie really got on my nerves. Oh no don't shoot these horrible creatures because once they were human. Makes no sense in any kind of movie for anyone to say.

Honestly the Toyota war is more interesting because it shows what a war between two vaguely competent but strapped for cash third world militaries can look like when they decide to be clever about it.

The Iran-Iraq war is more like a really horrendous butchery where you have wildly divergent capabilities (Iraq had huge materiel superiority, Iran had like 4 times the population) but neither force is competent enough to bring it to bear so it just becomes a horrendous bloodbath.

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>I can pull that off
Israel kicked off that war with the only competent part of the Egyptian army busy doing vietnam reenactments in Yemen, Saddam didn't have that going for him because, as laughably bad as the iranian military was, it could be mobilized entirely to defend the country

Neither side is throwing nukes over a proxy war, and the US logistical apparatus in the gulf was nowhere near enough to push that hard in the region, which would probably have caused shit to go hot in India the moment Pakistan made an open move

There was honestly also no way the Gulf wouldn't have done everything to stop the US from entering at all because they already saw the IRI as a mortal enemy second only to the Baathists.

I like to hear about it, Both are islamaturds so I don't have a preferred side. Its like watching cockroaches fight. I was a kid when this happend. Now all the wars are shitty insurgencies and , frankly boring. obviously not for those taking part, but you know.

Electric swamp should always be the first reply to any Iraq-Iran war thread. One of the most fucked up things in military history by all means. Corpse pontoons used to cross wetlands...

>Both are islamaturds
>t. I know literally nothing about world politics

Well ostensibly Saddam wanted to annex part of Iran, but he also wanted to protect his own regime. Iran was a huge threat to secular leaders like Saddam, especially when the revolution ended up as a Shiite theocracy. Iran was absolutely prodding the Shia in Iraq to revolt against Saddam's nominally secular Sunni dominated regime.

Saddam invading Iran is the very reason why virtually all moderates were removed from power in Iranian post revolutionary chaos. Without war hardline islamists wouldn't have been able to take over every aspect of Iranian state.

What is it from?

GYO: Tokyo fish attack

Wouldn't the electricity just go straight into the ground through the water
Why would it go through people

Lol iran was but iraq was ruled by the baath party which was secular, socialist and more modern in comparison to iran.

Yeah, know about the baath party , irellevant the government was secular but who cares the people were islamic.

Are not both countries majority islamic ?

Try harder next time

>urrrrrrr
Yeah and the CIA world factbook claims that most Czechs are christians and most Albanians are muslims, but almost everybody in both countries is an atheist

You’re arguing with a retard, buddy. Anything more complex than black and white generalisations would impinge on his self-serving world view.

Pretty unrealistic scenario.

Soviet Union wouldn't have had economy to go much longer with hardline stance during the Cold War. Their economy would have imploded. Only thing that kept SU from imploding in 80's is ironically Iranian revolution causing another oil crisis, that increased price of oil and natural gas, giving them much needed hard money export income. That gave Soviet economy few extra years. SU extending themselves further in middle east could have triggered much more violent revolutions in commie occupied eastern European countries, potentially spreading into SU itself and turning collapse of SU from fairly clean affair into full blown civil war.

While Sino-Soviet split started with SU being too liberal for Mao, by 80's Chinese leadership would have been too liberal for Soviet hard liners. Usually vatniks hate Gorbachev, he did pretty decent job given the pile of shit he was left by KGB gerontocracy to start with and he managed to avoid collapse of SU from turning into civil war.

>while Britain sends troops to Europe
Most of British Army was permanently based in Germany instead of being based in UK back then. The very reason why they still have some troops in Germany, despite disbanding lot of units after the end of the Cold War, is the fact that British Army lacked bases in UK where they could do combined arms training with mechanized forces. I think deadline for withdrawing all troops and disbanding British Forces in Germany as permanent organization is set on 2020.

Person who slept at physics classes spotted.

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[muffled screaming]

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Much appreciated.

Fuckin brutal. Shame there's not much out there on it tho

>Most of British Army was permanently based in Germany instead of being based in UK back then. The very reason why they still have some troops in Germany, despite disbanding lot of units after the end of the Cold War, is the fact that British Army lacked bases in UK where they could do combined arms training with mechanized forces. I think deadline for withdrawing all troops and disbanding British Forces in Germany as permanent organization is set on 2020.
Yes, but Britain would still send more forces to Germany if conflict was imminent. It took part in Exercise REFORGER every year along with the US and Canada.

The plot of Threads seems pretty well thought-out desu.

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Trench warefare formed due to the landscape. When your tank maxes out at 30 MPH and you have to go straight at it through open desert at times being in the open for an entire kilometer that charge is going to suck.

>White people, White people, Fucking white people
lol faggot