What kind of safe do I need to get if I want an average burglar to look at it and think "Fuck that...

put it in the safe!

Amsec BF HD is the bare minimum. It's not officially C-rate, but it's pretty close.

Otherwise you're going to need a real C-rate or better safe, like Graffunder or Amsec's high end.

Just get a large, cheap TV, put it in an easy to reach place, the groids will gravitate towards it.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SPICS?

damn cj

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This.

A false wall is fucking easy tier to install yourself. I walled off the area under my stairs with paneling to match the stuff in my utility/laundry room. Even somebody taking their time to scope out the place wouldn't find the hidden door. It looks like a solid wall that's always been there.

Genius.

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GLEN PORK

this is actually not a bad idea but if they know you had a safe worth opening they just bring their own, even battery powered ones cut through most safe walls within 5 minutes

get a box and put a note on it that says

>hey there faggot reading this, i went trough all the trouble to put my guns in here and explosively booby trap it, take my guns i take you hands, fuck you ATF

it will go one of 2 ways, people will see through your ruse and steal your shit, or they will be too afraid of getting pirate hands to steal your shit

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>tfw the only place I have room for the guns is in my shop right next to a cabinet full of grinders and an acetlyene torch.

A firesafe for your important shit. steel security cabinets for anything else. Thieves usually won't touch your guns because that's a long ass sentence when they get caught, a steel cabinet would be enough to deter most sticky fingers. Just make sure to lag bolt it to the wall for good measure.

when the fuck is the last time you heard of a burglar taking a saw into someones house to steal their guns?
maybe when SHTF you can worry about it, but even then, when.
people who break into houses go for easy shit so they can get in and out. they want jewellery that's easy to acquire, small electronics, shit like that, most will not bring power tools.

>not storing ammunition, lighter fluid, and welding gasses in the same 2 square foot box

its like you don't even live dangerously my man

all of them. you need to get all of them and layer them up like a russian doll. and then just hope to god that the burglars aren't jews, because the presence of a safe will only encourage them if they are. you'll never get rid of the fuckers, they'll get their cousins to foreclose your ass just to see what's inside it. you'd basically have to either move state or kill yourself.

Homie just wanted to come home

Most safes you see in homes have relatively thin steel walls with concrete or some other filler. The real deal safes you see for small branch banks, jewelers or commercial business are definitely "fuck it" strong but can be cost and weight prohibitive for protecting a personal collection of goods. These can be easily $10k -15k+ and weigh thousands of pounds. Layered security practices are the best approach to cheap and effective security.
First layer--lock your goddamn doors. Next, a $1k-2k home safe will be reasonably heavy as to require 2 men to work at removing it. Add another $100 to bolt it down making it difficult to move.
Home security for $30/month is a cheap and lightweight security measure. Alone it's damn near useless, but remember it's about layers. Next--Get to know your neighbors and maybe they'll call someone who cares when they hear power tools roaring from your bedroom when your car isn't even around. Nosy neighbors are FREE. Also, don't blab about your safe or valuables. OPSEC is free.

Lastly, buy insurance. When the previous measures fail...Fuck it, you're gonna get made whole with a check from your insurance company anyway. Rule of thumb for insurance-- your premiums shouldn't be more than 3-5% of the total value of assets you are protecting. Insurance is one of the cheapest ways to secure assets for a fraction of the value. Spending $20k on goods and services to secure $1500 worth of nuggets and hi-points is not practical.

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I keep that stuff next to my mig welder

>mfw that one video from defcon where the guy opens a safe by vibrating a rotary sander on the top of it for 5 minutes

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Nope. Niggers smash things for fun.

You need three safes but only let him pick one. After his first selection, open one of the safes and reveal that it was full of monkeys the whole time. The monkeys rape the burglar to dead

this sounds like a good plan, except for moneys, just leave a spider egg nest in there

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smash, not cut.
tyrone will not bother to bring the reciprocating saw when he can use the that pocket for King Cobra tall boy.

Make sure your homeowners insurance covers firearms, and then get the cheapest safe possible that keeps the nosy people away. Unless you have irreplaceable firearms or want to store gold bars in there also, it's just a waste of money.

>people who break into houses go for easy shit so they can get in and out. they want jewellery that's easy to acquire, small electronics, shit like that, most will not bring power tools.

A friend's father does a lot of petty crimes investigation and this is correct. Your average smash and grab thief is armed with a pry bar and maybe something to break a window with like a piece of ceramic from a spark plug or an automotive emergency hammer. They're after anything small and valuable that they can toss into a backpack as well as smokes and booze. In and out in five minutes.

A small percentage of those thieves are using the smash and grab in order to case the place for a future break in. That break in is the one where they'll go loud because they have a vehicle parked out front ready to accept their larger stolen loot and get away quickly.

store your guns and fake passports in a safety deposit box at the bank.

I've seen this shit posted on here for over a week now where people want to say, "HURR it takes 5 minutes to break into!".
Cool.
People aren't after your guns in a safe, unless you have some really expensive shit, then you're probably not dealing with your average thief, and hopefully you're not stupid enough to just leave your guns laying around your house with out some additional security.
If they're planning on going into your house to break into a safe, you're not dealing with your average criminal, who will likely not be interested in your Hi-Point.

Really depends on where you live imho.

I live in a city filled with bike riding faggots and the thieves who prey on them. Once had a $500 bike (this is really not that much for a decent bike) stolen from me even though I locked it with a immensely thick and strong D-lock. Someone had angle grinded in broad daylight.

what the fuck is this

Hiroshimoots April fools day prank

Team Chocolate = niggers.

They’re in this thread to get ideas to steal our guns!

Rolling for Team DeadJesus

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I like you.

better to just buy mroe guns. once you have too many guns, aburglar is going to say "wtf do i even steal" and just leave overwhelmed with maybe a glock

not everyone is gay like you lol