Memes aside, how deadly is .22lr for point blank encounters?

It all depends... if youre going after someone who has been building up a resistance (i.e. shooting themswlves with .22, then maybe up to .380 etc) then youre fucked

It's fine.

slow release 22lr

whatever bullet you get shot with is gonna hurt and you will prolly want to dip out of said situation.

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I've shot numerous large animals w/a 22LR and they all died, the 22 leaves a good wound channel Pic related is Mini-Mag

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Different EMT fag here
Had a patient (obese adult male) that was shot by a 22lr in the armpit
Did CPR all the way to the hospital (before the days of stay and play then pronounce)

It is possible to kill with a .22lr but it is unlikely

1" barrel BTW

With .22 it's more about placement. You hit someone in the heart or in the head (at the right range) and that's going to be the end of that altercation. Most unarmed assailants aren't going to want to continue after getting shot with anything. Fun tidbit, as an X-Ray tech I once had a patient who had been shot in the groin. There was no exit wound so I had to find the bullet. It wasn't in his pelvis so I did an abdomen. Wasn't there either so I moved up to the chest. wasn't there either but there was obviously fluid in the left lung. The fucking thing was in his neck. That guy actually lived but it took a lot of surgery, recovery, and luck.

.22lr will fuck you up. Especially something like cci stingers. Only reason it isn't commonly used for self defense is because it is rimfire, not because it is weak.

More than not, less than you want.

Better than carrying a stick.

>Bone, muscle, and hide are the same as a ripe melon

The fuck you mean? shits deadly if you get a meat shot. poor shot lines or excessive bone may stop it but the same can be said of many other calibers, just to a lesser degree. any kind of intermediate barrier sturdier than a hallmark card and youre balls deep in shitsville.

Couple of those to the chest will end Tyrones weekend robbery spree

Quite effective up to 10ft,
alot better than .25acp

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if the idea is that you want to STOP an attacker, it's not very good. it's fine if you're going to assassinate them via good shot placement. the real advantage is you can get guns of any size, palm size up to long rifles, so it's hyper versatile.

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The experience of all those people that never even noticed they got shot before the firefight is over seems to contradict your reasoning.
Adrenaline is one hell of a drug.

How long is a string?

>memes aside
do you even know where you are?

In Northern Ireland, part time and full time UDR soldiers were issued .22 walther's for personal protection at the start of the Troubles. Most ended up buying their own 9mm instead. My dad used a Browning Hi Power rather than the walther. Sammy Brush was a part time UDR soldier and postman who fought off an IRA ambush with a .22 LR. He seriously injured one who needed hospital treatment in the Republic, but I think he managed to escape once he'd been treated (or more like the Garda let him go). Proof that simply being shot back at and not knowing what you're being shot back at with is enough to scare off most people.

They're deadly at point blank range. Derrick Bird went on a killing spree in England in 2010 armed with a .22 rifle and double barrel shotgun (proof that banning certain calibres and certain types of firearms does not stop massacres, so much for the bans) and some of his first victims were killed with the .22. He put 11 rounds from the .22 into his first victim, his brother. His second victim, the family solicitor, took two shots to the head and died. The third victim took two shots, was hit in the face and chest and died too.

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A SERIOUS NO EXSPERIENCE FAG
Ya that whole idea of yours is WRONG
Adrenaline much ? And Tyrone is a Apex predator from your description so Tyron ain't running he is gonna ramp up that steamy pile of whoop ass .
And you are gonna have to dump that cute little magazine .

This has pasta potential

Penne

>.22 issued for self defense

I recall hearing that .22 will get inside someone and then bounce around off bones, tearing organs and other shit up pretty badly.

That's a myth. If something strikes bone and doesn't penetrate it either deflects slightly or just stops. If it had enough energy to "bounce" and move any significant distance it would be capable of punching into the bone.

No point blank is the range at which the trajectory of the bullet can be considered to be flat. So point blank for .22lr ir different from .357 magnum. Point blank for 22lr is up to 100 yards.

Imagine being this autistic.

Either way .22 will probably work. Enough people have been killed by it. Enough people have survived large caliber wounds. I wouldn't feel unarmed with a .22.

>2 rifle and double barrel shotgun (proof that banning certain calibres and certain types of firearms does not stop massacres,
one isolated incident is not proof of a trend or of that a policy doesn't work.
Australia and the UK have far less violent societies all things considered and Australians certainly still have guns for sports shooting and hunting.

>Sports, shooting and hunting.

So ya want to defend yaself do ya? Oi as long as it's against defenseless animals.

Australian's have self defence legislation that provides the option of lethal force where appropriate. Same as Americans

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about three fiddy

Absolute bullshit. Why go on a weapons board where knowledgeable people reside, and then spew shit like this? Try telling this shit to kindergarten kids if you want someone to believe it.

>22 can barely pass through a human
>but it bounced off the pelvis with enough speed/momentum to cut through another 30 inches of human vertically

Too damn long

I don't get any failure to fire with modern rimfire. Especially quality ones like CCI or other qualify manufacturers.

The main reason they don't carry .22lr is EXACTLY because it is too weak.

Killing is not the same as incapacitating. I understand 22lr will EASILY kill, but a .22lr hitting the heart as oppossed to an expanded .45 hitting the heart, who do you think will bleed out faster and lose consciousness due to a blood pressure drop?

If a perp is holding out his arms in front of him, as everyone tends to do regardless of weapon, and you shoot at him with a .22lr, the bullet (if it even goes through his arm) might not have enough left to pierce a vital appropiately.

I saw some beaner sneak up on another beaner from the safety of my balcony as a gang/drug related murder attempt happened. Fat boy got plugged several times with .22, and his twiggy friend got shot in the arm by a .22. Friend dragged fat boy to safety with full use of his arm, and fatboy was chilling until ambulance arrived. Both lived.

Circumstancial evidence but come on man... It is. .22, short of a CNS hit, it wont incapacitate.

But is it handled the way it is here? Just because laws are in place doesn't mean they're handled equally. Even within our country.

Arizona = No permit to conceal carry
New York = cannot conceal carry

Depends where you shoot the redguard

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That happens with other calipers too though. That's why wonder nines became a thing. My little .22lr will penetrate 12" - 14" pretty consistently as long as I feed it 36 grain CCI Mini Mags. Anything else tends to come up short, especially with a barrier like denim. Its also nice to have 10 + 1 in your pocket, with a reload to boot.

Maybe I'm larping here. But I live in Los Angeles and I am stuck in traffic more often than not, I might need to shoot through a windshield. The two times I had violent encounters with people were in vehicle related incidents.

Once I was inside the car, the other time I was outside. Don't know how well .22lr would fare against a windshield/cardoor. These are things I take into consideration too.

Everyone's different of course. So I'm not knocking you for carrying a .22lr, I love pocket guns and I am finding myself carrying them more often every day. Hard to get OP's pic related in Cali though as it's not a roster gun.

Pheonix Arms HP22A should be on the roster. I mean, they are made in Cali. Don't know about laws regarding mods though. The stock safeties on it are pure cancer of the highest order. Its easy to work on and mod. Most wear surfaces on mine are now steel, and made a buffer and stiffer spring for high velocity rounds.

youtube.com/watch?v=QT8MzaOOqb0

jews storming planes with .22 cal

>“After careful analysis, they selected Wael Zwaiter as their first target. The group determined that Zwaiter was a soft target, living and operating in Rome…The weapons specialist made arrangements to have five Beretta .22 caliber, semi-automatic pistols with extra ammunition and magazines transported into Italy through his own established network of arms’ suppliers… The lobby was dimly lit and as Zwaiter entered, Avner switched on additional lights to positively identify his target…the second shooter asked the target if he was Wael Zwaiter. With positive identification established, the two commandos quickly drew their weapons and shot 14 rounds into Zwaiter.

>“The target and a female companion exited the movie at approximately 2235 hours and took a bus to an area just a short walk from their flat. As they began their walk from the bus stop to the flat, two members of the action team exited a Mazda and began firing into the man believed to be Salameh with Beretta .22 pistols.

>“Former officers of the Mossad have also verified the firearms methodology utilized by Mossad specialists, to include their preference for the Beretta .22 caliber pistol.”

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yeah but if i shot some fool with my O/U who is coming at me with a knife i get jailed for excessive force.

welcome to australia. a former politician who lived 30 minutes from the nearest police used an unloaded .22 with no bolt in it to stop and drive a home invader with a knife to the police station. he got his licence revoked temporarily and nearly jailed/fined.

Sounds like you're the dumbass that doesn't know what it means, since its literally what OP asked.
Maybe you should go back to your animes.

"contact range" is the term you're looking for, noguns.

Bullets not bouncing is a myth.

Ive posted this story before so Ill keep it short.
>best friend was killed in front of me when I was 13 with a little .22 ghetto blaster.
>He was shot in the lungs and throat and I was shot twice in the shoulder.
>I didn't even know I was shot until about 15 min later.
> He only made it about 3 steps from where he was shot

22lr is ALL about shot placement. Doesn't help that rimfire isn't super reliable either.

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>shot placement

which is fucking hard to do under pressure. best to have 9mm to be sure.

Different EMT here.
Just yesterday saw a guy ND while cleaning his pistol. 9mm hollowpoint right through and through his lower leg. Very little bleeding, walked into the urgent case, no pain.

Depends on the shooter.
Good shooter = mass ammount of death for cheap.

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The way I see it only two things matter for all pistol calibers
>shot placement
>sufficient penetration
22lr can lack in penetration capablities so I wouldn't trust it for anything other then mag dumping vitals (face, throat, etc) up close.

afaik, the small cross section enables penetration just fine. are there really examples of where penetration is insufficient?

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