Is there any way for a noguns army to pose a threat to an army with artillery and fully automatic firearms?

Is there any way for a noguns army to pose a threat to an army with artillery and fully automatic firearms?
The British were out numbered in Rorke's Drift and still won

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Caesars Legion wasn't noguns. Their elite troops had high end weapons like 12.7mm SMGs, Brush Rifles, Trail Carbines, Anti Material Rifles and such. They also had cannons at The Fort that were repaired by the courier. You also had thousands of raider gangs amped to fight the NCR.

The NCR was better armed, but ridiculously outnumbered.

Warsaw ghetto uprising is the closest thing I can think of.
Didn't go great.

Caesar's Legion wasn't nogunz, they were jut from the proper wastes, while the NCR had coastal stuff to retake

Caesar Legion made their strides by being ruthless and efficient.

You can even see a gun in the very pic you posted user, use your brain a little.

The Marines resorted to using shovels on guadalcanal

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Why are there so many fully automatic weapons in the fallout world?
Was the NFA never passed in their timeline?

Insurgency. Subvert and steal until you go from noguns to fullguns. Take notes from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, etc. Al Qaeda was bankrolling a bunch of shepherds and pot farmers to put up a 10 year fight against the most advanced military in the world.

Do note that this is assuming something important: That a fight can be put up in the first place. The population of Venezuela are practically incapable of resisting their government because guns are banned and the criminals are in bed with the government, who are international cocaine dealers.

ATF, Called BADTFL (Beueau of Alcohol, Drugs, Tobacco, Firearms, and Lasers)
focused more on energy weapons than full auto guns, and video game.

Any point in time but now, no...

However, get a smart enough leader willing to send his followers to their deaths thulsa doom style and I think that eventually the emotional stress of shooting normies will drive the normie a in the military nuts causing insurrection amongst the troops, pretty soon the nation is eating itself out of guilt.

It's safe to assume just about all the full auto guns in Fallout were looted from military depots and the like or made after the war.

The answer is contained within your question, user. The force of Zulu that attacked Rorke's Drift had BTFOd a much larger British force a day or two prior at Isandlwana.

The Mojave is a fucking side show to the NCR. The higher ups couldn't be bothered to control the land they own. If the legion won the battle of the dam and decided to push further into NCR territory that will cause the NCR to go full fight or die.

The bigger threat to NCR is if all these BOS factions decide to get their shit together and form a single group with one leader and goal.

Half the NCR was women. They never stood a chance. Also minorities.

It still surprises me that the NCR didn't make the legion into a smear and get on with it considering they apparently are pretty close to pre-war industrial capacity and infrastructure. They would also have the support of the people considering they are fighting an enemy that butchers, enslaves and wipes out cultures and takes their children to feed their fighting machine. Also, the legion is based on Caeser so if he dies the legion basically dies, so assassination attempts and dropping bombs when? But I guess if they went this route, there would be no game.

You can assasinate Caesar yourself to end the gsme quicker. But try it and see how far you get before 100 spears impale you.

>run in with Boone
>shoot ceasar in the face
>run out

Any insurgency that has people with degrees with chemical engineering or something to that effect in their ranks would pose a serious threat.

From what you can find online and read about notorious bombers it would be become a magnitude easier for a nogunz insurrection to resort to violent bombing campaigns to destroy their intended targets.

to add on this, the Gun Runners manufacture pre-war quality weapons of all varieties.

>why didn't they just assassinate stalin?
>why didn't they just assassinate hitler?
>why don't we just assassinate best korea leader?
>why don't we just assassinate Assad?

I too used to think like a child.

The short answer is logistics.

There's ALOT more to it than that but the logistics are the biggest problem.
The NCR barely has most of Cali locked down by the time NV happens.
Soldiers in the know constantly talk about how over extended they are and commanders first complaint seems to always be "muh lack of supplies".
Add to that the loss of the divide passage which would have made it immensely easier and faster to send in convoys and then add in that apparently legion loves its insurgency tactics and tries to muck with what fragile supply lines and chains of command the NCR does have established in the region.

Bet you money you go to California and it's a whole different show with things being much more together and tidy. Evidence being fallout 2 when you visit the NCR there

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Also killing caesar wont end the legion. At least not right away.
There's numerous commanders in play that will keep it going but many seem to agree that in time without caesar's influence and charisma they'll turn on each other in time.

And with that you now have what? A half dozen states worth of armed and mostly organized tribals going at each other, eith various chiefs fighting for control all over the place? Shit just got alot more perilous in those regions

There were numerous attempts on Hitlers life by the allies. Castro, hell, even Jung Il had several internal attempts on his life. And it's true without Ceasar the legion would fall flat. He comments on how the Legate is not capable of running the legion. They'd be forced to go back to Colorado at that point.

The NCRA is horribly overextended and unorganized. Its average soldier is poorly trained and under-supplied, and General 'Wait-and-See' Oliver has been intentionally ignoring the rest of the Mojave so he can focus stockpiling a shitload of bodies and guns on the dam so that when the Legion attacks again, he'll get this big glorious battle and be remembered in history books. The NCRA's leadership in general is just god awful.

The Legion is also known to have highly capable spies and saboteurs throughout the Mojave region to better exploit the poor organization and logistical situation the NCRA is dealing with.

If the NCR had its shit together it could almost certainly wipe the floor with the Legion, but one of the defining points of the NCR is that it does not, in fact, have its shit together.

*Had heard the British getting btfo'd and were blueballed enough to attack a fortified position against standing orders instead of drawing them out
But yeah. Ambush? In the open? With literal human waves level of numerical superiority? Against single shot rifles? Sure.
Not happening when everyone gets an automatic weapon.

>I too used to think like a child.
Most of Roman emperors were expired by their own bodyguards

Speaking of NV, where the hell do you buy medical supplies in the Strip? I'm all fucked up after dicking around in the robot bunker under Caesar's Palace and not a single motherfucker sells a doctor's bag.

There was multiple attempts on each of their lives desu.

bruh just fast travel back to Goodsprings, unless you aren't using fast travel in which case, just raid the Mormon Fort

No. Obsidian can't write for shit and new Vegas is hilariously overrated because it's compared to literal dogshit.

Hell, the Legion even do this. Remember that quest where you had to disarm the bomb on the monorail from McCarran to the Strip?

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NCR's strategy includes methods such as storming Nelson to retake it from the Legion, and storming Cottonwood Cove to take it from the Legion.

Legion's methods include sacrificing only 2 legionaries to make basically a dity bomb at Searchlight, using a spy to blow up a major supply/transport monorail, and chlorine gassing the entirety of the Strip. That's in addition to arming/inciting the raider gangs and the straightforward skirmishes. Vulpes and his goons could pretty much win the entire thing without courier intervention.

>maxed agility and associated perks
>max AP and associated perks
>Grim Reaper’s Sprint
>all critical damage related perks
>Mysterious Stranger
>Psycho, Jet and Med-X

EASY peasy, don’t even need a companion

Efficant as in assimilating a bunch of no name raider gangs and *spoiler* It's not like you as the player character couldn't wipe them all out if you chose to. The NCR as an organization is a lot harder to take on and harder to oppose, that was why the legion had to rapidly change strategy of force projection to stratigic diplomatic alliances and small-scale raids.

Well, Europe's supposedly strongest army didn't do great either against the Wehrmacht/Waffen SS despite being well armed with state of the art weaponry.

>What is the Fat Man?
Right through the door to his tent, then do a 360 and moonwalk out

Be fair, Rourke's drift happened just after Ishlandwana. Britain's version of Custer's last stand.

In addition to Mormon Fort and Goodsprings there's also a doctor who sells supplies in Novac

Vulpe would make a good Augustus once Caesar was out of the picture.

>@37723224
You're not even worth a (You).

>Britain's version of Custer's last stand
Except the British didn't die.

The brits lost at ishawanda hard, rourkes drift got made a pr stunt to cover a disaster.

New Vegas Medical Clinic, it's near Crimson Caravan.

They also do implants.

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>compared to literal dogshit
Well this part is right, at least.

Improvised explosive devices

I do that every playthrough. Can't abide slavers.

>Mfw walk into Caesars camp with power armor and a laser gatling
Was so satisfying wiping those scum out.

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>strongest European army in WW2
>Not Wehrmacht/Waffen SS
user...

This happened because the Brit-cucks were unable to open their ammo crates

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>Leave ED-E behind because he's too precious to get hurt
>Boone and I take the boat after wiping out Cottonwood Cove
>"Surrender your ar-"
>I don't even let that fucker finish
>Shoot him and his friend in the face with That Gun (Patent Pending)
>Methodically clear the camp before going into the tent
>I want Caesar to hear the screams of his men before he dies, Custer style
>Plant landmines outside the tent
>Jinglejangletime.webm
>I fire at the Praetorian Guard
>Boone tosses Caesar's salad
>Run the fuck outta the tent and jump down the berm into the arena
>All the mines detonate, sending pieces of Praetorian Guard and Legion Mongrel everywhere
>Mission complete
>Boone is as emotionless as ever
>Be on the news the same day, hell even the same hour
>How does Mr. New Vegas do it?

The Raiders would definitely fight against the Legion, the Legion is safe for traders because they kill all the raiders. Which probably wouldn't be good for the raiders in NCR

I killed everyone in the camp with Boone, ED-E, and my Brush Gun

yes. The IRA did a pretty good job taking out soldiers.