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Who would win the Battle of Loum?
The Federation's biggest and strongest space fleet being led by the best and smartest military minds of the time or a bunch of monoeye swively boys?

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Zeon had a Char

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Didn't Earth federation's General Revil get captured during this battle?

yes his ship got destroyed and he was taken prisoner

Why don't they all just use the long range rockets?

Minovsky Particles

Ok, ok. They don't have to be guided or anything. Like, what if we just sent a bunch of cheap missiles filled with explosives and shrapnel and just shrapnel everything to death?

Havey they actually do that before or later in the war

PLOT ARMOR.

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Feds are cucks

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>WE'RE FIGHTING FOR SPACENOID INDEPENDENCE
>*gasses fellow spacenoids and crashes colonies on earth*

Yes they do. They also use short range heat seeking missiles though M particles make them innacurate. Check out the Dendrobium for this concept taken to it's absolute limits.

There you go! Soda cans of death are the end of Minovsky particle warfare!

The missiles were still horribly inaccurate and inefficient

As much as I love Gundam, why the fuck is this on Jow Forums?

That's why you have a fuck ton of them. Don't even have to guide them. Just maybe throw on a magnetic proximity fuze or a simple timer and then so much shrapnel will shred everything to ribbons!

To argue about mobile suits and IF weaponry Jow Forums style. Star Wars and other series are allowed to have these threads, so why not Gundam?

They would still be limited to short range weapons that are easily dodged. Then it becomes a close quarters mobile shit fight where you get fucked unless you also have a mobile suit.

What if we threw it up a bit? Nuclear reactions still work in a Minovsky particle domain. So, create a nuclear rocket, a drone probably, whose only purpose is to accelerate fast, pop soda cans of death, and probably die at the end, hence the drone part. Based off of cost benefit analysis, this might very well be a mobile suit killer.

Nuclear weapon use (and colony drops) are banned by the Antarctica Treaty (treaty was made after Operation British and is why Zeon didn't drop any more colonies). That's why the GP-02 was developed in secret and was such a big deal.

It wouldn't be a nuclear weapon, exactly. It wouldn't be able to produce a nuclear explosion. The reactor wouldn't be configured that way. So it should technically be legal.

Again, minovsky particles make even heat seeking missiles highly inaccurate. All it would take is a sufficiently fast and maneuverable mobile suit to throw them off. In 0083 the Dendrobium was facing off against One Year War relics. Fast forward a few years to when Zeta Gundam is a thing and the effectiveness of missiles drops severely as mobile suit capabilities go up. By the time of Unicorn, suits like the Sinanju tank rockets to the face and the amount of times missiles actually hit targets can be counted on one hand. Your tactic would work on early UC mobile suits, and have worked in canon, but in later UC when mobile suits are far more advanced, psycho devices and I-Fields exist, missiles are back to being useless. This isn't considering the fact that mobile suits with Vulcan cannons can also shoot the missiles down before they're in effective range as well (Vulcan cannons and other anti missile weapons become standard issue in post OYW mobile suits as well).

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They've also got "funnel missiles" which use Newtypes as the guidance system.

>Robots with legs in space.

Even the the characters explained why legs don't work.

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The Battle of Loum was the one where Zeon forces nuked everything in sight. It was the reason for the Antarctic treaty. The bazookas the Zakus carried were originally nuclear rocket launchers.

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It's for AMBAC movement. It let's them turn on a dime.

Don't forget these bad boys

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Zeoncucks???

I'm saying we're going back to dumb missile swarms. The missiles could accelerate sufficiently well to cause their shrapnel to damage mobile suits. Swarm missiles so there is no place to dodge.

They'd get intercepted by mobile suit Vulcan cannons/anti missile beam guns. Or a psychoframe equipped suit would send out funnels to intercept at long range. Or an I-Field barrier could just let the suit tank the missiles. This is assuming that missiles will scratch the mobile suit's armor. Missiles just aren't viable in the era between Zeta and Unicorn. They are viable pre-Zeta because the mobile suits are rather rudimentary and after Unicorn because mobile suit design shifts to smaller, less armored and more agile suits.

Btw all these strategies that you're proposing do get used and in the read that the technology allows it to be viable, it does work
Rudimentary suits get shit on by missile swarms:
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Alright. We'll have to throw in other weapons as well. Perhaps drones with ballistic cannons and lasers. But radar and IR won't be working very well, so we might as well throw in humans. And then why don't you just use a mobile suit? One guy in one suit, instead of lots of guys in lots of drones? Damn you, Minovsky!

both sides nuked each other to oblivion in Loum. You had about 2 million feddie, 800,000 zeon, and 2 billion civilian losses

Anti-tank weaponry were shown to be effective against mobile suits in "08th MS Team". You just need to shoot them in the right spot, and they'll collapse.

That was for early mobile suits only. This is what happens with more advanced mobile suits.
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But that's down on Earth. Since you can't stealth in space, you can't really hide anything. On Earth, just have a bunch of panzergrenadiers in prepared positions. Basically, standard cold war tactics work on ground. But I'm focusing more on space because that's where the mobile suit reigns and that's where it needs to go down.

Swively boys. Mobile Suits are a force multiplier. They are essentially smaller, cheaper anti-ship weapons platforms which only require a single operator (or in the case of the Xamel two operators, but that's on the ground). In the context of the UC (AMBAC, Minovsky particles especially) they are the pinnacle of space based combat.>Like, what if we just sent a bunch of cheap missiles filled with explosives and shrapnel and just shrapnel everything to death?

Because you are vulnerable to the remnants of that shrapnel too.

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The vast majority of funnel equipped suits use psycommu not psychoframe.
An I-field would do nothing to stop missiles, it only blocks beams unless you have the super future magic black history ones.
Plenty of suits use missiles/rockets and there are examples of missiles being strong enough to blow off limbs through shields. Like everything else it all comes down to the animator/writer. There is a scene in CCA where vulcans blow through a suit, shield and everything, yet vulcans are usually depicted as useless in a ms fight.