One of the best war films to come out of Finland, and definitely, in my opinion, one of the best WWII war films, and the best war film about the Continuation War to have come out to date.
Great use of live fire through the film, using blanks only when needed. They took great lengths to make it feel real and I love the details they put into the film
This is an English translated version of the full 3-hour version of The Unknown Soldier.
The 1955 version of the film is almost line by line identical to the new film. The process to translate was to first machine translate between the official Danish, Finnish, Sweedish, and Norwegian sub files, using the Norwegian subs as a base as it seemed they translated best into English, using both Bing and Google. Each line that translated properly between the different sources was used for that particular line, using the movie for context to fix any inconsistencies. Once that translation was complete, the subfile was compared to the 1955 version line by line with those that matched, and any inconsistencies or context fixed based on that official translation.
So this version is almost perfectly accurate, I would say 95%+
This is timed to the rapidcows BluRay rip, just google for that and you'll find the downloads. Or you can get a region locked bluray from Scandinavia and go from there with it.
If there are any Native Finnish speakers on here, if you find anything inconsistent or wrong in the file just let me know and I'll fix it.
It's an alright film and a decent adaptation of the novel, borrowing a lot of the good qualities from both of the previous adaptations, but I still kind of question just how necessary it was. Special effects are good, aside from some fairly obvious CGI here and there. In terms of plot it's fairly straightforward, there's no particular mission that is being accomplished or one certain battle that it focuses on, it's just a depiction of a single Finnish unit in WW2 and its' soldiers experiences (for the most part based on true events of the original authors unit, though the characters are fictional).
Alexander Stewart
Did you even read his post, fuckwit?
Liam Gonzalez
>finshit fantasy movie#34235 yeah nice
Parker Smith
>the best war film about the Continuation War to have come out to date. IIRC Bayir Irincheev said that the first black-and-white adaptation was better. It's not. It's a pretty good war story. youtube.com/watch?v=EW_oQhedrns
Nolan Green
Litterally read the OP. He made subs for it
Ryan Robinson
>Some people say that "You're not a finn if you haven't read The Unknown Soldier". >My son is attending school in Helsinki and he was the only kid in the class who went to cinema to see this movie, the rest was watching Thor.Ragnarock.
Carson Robinson
>jumping through all these hoops to translate subtitles from Finnish to English...
Was it really that hard to find a Finnish Jow Forumsommando willing to translate the subs?
Noah Sanchez
How did the nazis got funds to make it? I thought they are banned in Yurop
Jayden Sullivan
Same story but America failed to prevent the communist take over. Which is the opposite.
Ethan Perez
The one from the eighties is the superior. Absolute kino.
Breddy bad b8. I will still bite for reasons of national pride. We didn't really lose considerring the side of the enemy and Stalins plans to make Finland a part of USSR. I am OK with saying that we fought and got a compromise. Here is yoyr (you)
Nolan Edwards
Nice man, thanks a lot for your work. I already watched it with the first shitty english sub's that came out since I had been waiting on this movie for so long. It was an awesome movie.
Charles Richardson
>Stalins plans to make Finland a part of USSR. Which are still unproven neither by documents, nor by facts.
Ayden Jackson
Yup, we had threads up for a long while on Jow Forums and Jow Forums and nothing
Jordan Evans
USSR was not going to annex Finland (initially). It was supposed to be a democratic people's republic. Though, this might've joined the USSR later.
Just remember its not a film on Continuation War, but a film on a book where the fight in the war. In many ways they dont fight in the typical locations, for example in the end they miss the big battles on the Karelian Isthmus and the film ends in the end of the war, with Lapland war not mentioned at all.
Justin Carter
Author was wounded in 1943 and that's when his military career ended
Daniel Allen
thanks op i wasn't aware of this remake will watch soon
Parker Baker
>It was supposed to be a democratic people's republic. So in other words, another Soviet puppet state. >Though, this might've joined the USSR later. Is there even any doubt?
Colton Campbell
>15.49 GB what?
David Murphy
It's the raw Blu-ray rip. Absolutely worth the download for the high quality rip with the raw audio.
The audio really makes the film, sounds fucking real and is very immersive if you have 5.1 surround sound system or surround sound headphones
Matthew Lee
Please no, the butthurt vatnik shitposting will never stop.
The narrative before the war was to "liberate the Finnish working class" (who had just tried a revolution) and securing the whole northern flank by taking care of Finland's alignment. However, it went self-consciously completely opposite and worse by making Finland aligned to Germany. USSR did not recognize the current capitalist Finnish government which it deemed illegitimate, but due to circumstances and realisation had to make itself open for negotiations with this imaginary state. Also, Finland later retook these demanded random swatches of land seemingly without resistance.
Before the war:
>Comrade V. M. Molotov, head of the Soviet Government, concluded his speech over the radio on November 29 with the following words: >...The Red Army has come to Finland not as an aggressor, not as a conqueror, but as the deliverer of the Finnish people from their oppressors and the instigators of war of the Cajander-Erkko-Tanner-Mannerheim clique. The Red Army has come to Finland to help the Finnish people and its People's Government in their struggle against the Messrs. It is acting in Finland on the invitation of the People's Government of Finland. It will lose no time in leaving Finland as soon as the People's Government of Finland deems it necessary.
And after the war; turbo damage control, USSR abolished and denied the ever existence of the DFPR:
>Comrade Molotov stated that he has never heard about any demands of the USSR to change the government of Finland. The Finns have invented this.
The socialist Democratic Finnish People's Republic and its army are sadly less known, they are less in line with the history writing of USSR (and its successor).
The Finns (socialists, social democrats and communists.) hated the Bolsheviks. Annexation would have lead to prolonged fighting which was one of the reasons USSR ceased operations.
That's debatable. I have a 4k projector and a surround sound system and gigabit internet. It's worth the extra 10 gb just to get the perfect audio and video.
Alexander Carter
The OP has a fully translated subtitle he did in the OP post dude.
Sebastian Carter
yeah well not everyone is a richfag coke addict
Henry Jenkins
>by making Finland aligned to Germany Implying that Finland wasn't aigned to Germany since 1918.
The subtitles on opensubtitles are a shitty Google translate version.
David Johnson
Not really but USSR had been spouting that the illegitimate fascist capitalist white oppressing fascist government of Finland is fascist and completely a Germany puppet since the 30's.
Kevin Watson
>finn qt in wheat field based how did this film get past censure?
Andrew Peterson
Those subs we're complete shit, "POOP, as the file implies, which is why I properly translated it and my good subs are in the OP.
Nolan Brown
This being Finland I'm waiting for some black/atmospheric black metal to accompany the forest scenes.
Benjamin Morales
blah blah blah. USSR won the winter war get over it they got all the territory that they claimed. never wanted to annex finland. otherwise they would have done so post ww2.
James Lee
yes well that is the only english sub file i could find for the 2 hour cut version
Joshua Young
I legit couldn't get through 30 minutes through those sub files, i tried them a moth ago when they popped up and they we're horrifically terrible.
I watched OPs subs last night and goddamn the movie was fantastic.
Not sure why someone would want to watch the 2 hour cut version, when the original is 3 hours of fucking fantastic film. I'm glad you translated it, I had been waiting months
Tyler Wood
No one here's has claimed that the USSR would have annexed Finland. The war or USSR was not about the territory, it did nothing with these. In fact, it was supposed to give East Karelia to the Finnish People's Republic.
>For participation in a joint struggle, hand in hand with the heroic Red Army of the U.S.S.R., the People's Government of Finland already has formed the First Finnish Army Corps, which in the course of forthcoming battles will receive reinforcements by volunteers coming from revolutionary workers and farmers and must become the strong backbone of the future People's Army of Finland. To the First Finnish Army Corps is accorded the honor of bringing the banner of Finland's Democratic Republic into the capital and hoisting It on the roof of the Presidential Palace to the joy of the working people and to the awe of the enemies of the people. books.google.fi/books?id=NW45AQAAIAAJ (hope you can read Russian)
On the other side, they had their reasons, like antisoviet bias (which was on the rise in the same decade), violation of Tartu Peace treaty in 1921 (soviet leaders were rather rancorous), strong ties with Germany, and illegal status of communist party. >fascist Not really. Soviets used "whitefinns" brand. >capitalist Well, there is a small nuance. Capitalism is the economical formation. It's the natural step which should be surpassed. And the governments are called "bourgeois", because bourgeoisie is the group that funds the politicians. >oppressing According to marxist teaching on state, it's the nature of every government. In soviet propaganda finnish government was branded as the ally of western capitalism (which was proven to be right by the foreign support of Fnland during Winter War) and the stronghold of white army movement.
Ethan Cox
Can anyone give a run-down on the Finnish rank insignia used at the time of this movie? Would be helpful. I'm assuming one pip on the collar is a 1st Lt etc but is that right?
Easton Torres
retarded conspiracy based on a couple official statements finland was russian territory so the SU would have annexed anything 'captured' completely just as they did in xinjiang. USSR was very moderate in their foreign policy despite the hype about them being warmongers.
Mason Ramirez
I don't understand and I suspect this is Rungilsh.
Again, USSR was not going to annex anything. It was to be an independent socialist Democratic Finnish People's Republic.
>Дoгoвop o взaимoпoмoщи и дpyжбe мeждy Coвeтcким Coюзoм и Финляндcкoй Дeмoкpaтичecкoй Pecпyбликoй- >>Cтaтья I >>>B знaк дpyжбы и глyбoкoгo дoвepия Coвeтcкoгo Coюзa к Финляндcкoй Дeмoкpaтичecкoй Pecпyбликe, идя нaвcтpeчy нaциoнaльным чaяниям финcкoгo нapoдa o вoccoeдинeнии кapeльcкoгo нapoдa c финcким нapoдoм, в eдинoм и нeзaвиcимoм финляндcкoм гocyдapcтвe, Coвeтcкий Coюз выpaжaeт coглacиe пepeдaть Финляндcкoй Дeмoкpaтичecкoй Pecпyбликe paйoны Coвeтcкoй Кapeлии c пpeoблaдaющим кapeльcким нaceлeниeм - вceгo в paзмepe 70 000 квaдpaтных килoмeтpoв, c включeниeм этoй тeppитopии в cocтaв гocyдapcтвeннoй тeppитopии Финляндcкoй Дeмoкpaтичecкoй Pecпyблики и ycтaнoвлeниeм гpaницы мeждy CCCP и Финляндcкoй Дeмoкpaтичecкoй Pecпyбликoй, coглacнo пpилoжeннoй кapтe. (see above) > - B.Moлoтoв, O.Кyycинeн
Christian Miller
well looks like a good war movie so no long dialogues. don't think i could sit through 3 hours of finn bable. so, the 2 hour cut and this hack job sub are good and neccesary for budget tv read ins
Hudson Adams
They used the word Lapualainen, which pretty much fascist. They had ought the free the Finnish people from the capitalist landlords.
Anthony Bennett
i'm sure if they had conquered all of finnland than they would have setup an autonomous oblast under such a name but, fact is they went to war for the cause of reclaiming territory around their northern cities and they accomplished that. claiming that the USSR lost the winter war due to casualties or some grandeous plan of annexation denies realities. if the finns voted on their own to join the USSR i'm sure they'd have loved that as well. as happened in the baltic. stalin was more concerned with not upsetting the future historical record of his nation than immediately gaining a worthless and rebellious SSR
Kayden Walker
The soviets won but it was a pyrrhic victory and that's about as much as needs to be said about the winter war.
Xavier Morris
Thank you OP you are making Jow Forums great again.
Jason Cook
>if the finns voted on their own to join the USSR i'm sure they'd have loved that as well. as happened in the baltic. Ah yes, because the Baltic states loved their Russian overloads so very very much.
Kevin Jones
>Lapualainen They- prosoviet finns or soviets? Because soviets haven't used much of finnish words.
Brayden Sanchez
USSR was not going to conquer Finland you rooster, why don't you get it? And the socialist Democratic Finnish People's Republic would not have joined the USSR, at least willingly. The Finnish socialists, social democrats and communists hated the Bolsheviks. No one cares about casualties, at least not USSR. If one claims USSR lost, it is because they failed in their objective while the other succeeded. Just like any won or lost war. They didn't protest so USSR saw they were willing to join the USSR. They were fascist, the 30's Italy kind of fascist. Soviets knew well about this movement and they didn't spout propaganda in Russian in Finland you dummie.
>They didn't protest so USSR saw they were willing to join the USSR. Hard to protest from Gulag.
Luke Morales
you're just mincing bullshit. everyone hated bolsheviks including stalin. you are either saying that the USSR's war goal was to setup a Finnish SSR, and you're wrong. or you're just arguing for the sake of argument like a bitch
Adrian Garcia
Get the fuck back to /leftypol/.
Oliver Barnes
>Muh gulags >muh evil nkvd enforcing terror on the first day after elections They could go and hide in the forests, but they never did it before Hitler's invasion
Logan Richardson
Again and again, not an SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic, which is part of USSR), but an "INDEPENDENT" socialist Democratic Finnish People's Republic. Nevertheless. I doubt Finns would have been willing to join the USSR. The DFPR was not accepted either. I.e. they didn't protest going to the Gulag. How so?
Nathaniel Jenkins
i could translate it for you guys id you gave me money t: poor finn
One pip is 2nd Lt, two is 1st Lt and three for Captain. Bigger pips are for Major, LTC and Col with the same idea. For the white lines on the shoulder straps; one is for lance corporal, two for corporal and three for sergeant. Chevrons or bigger solid chevron-like things on the collar for SNCO’s.
Carter Turner
you really have no idea how fucked the finnish language is, isn't it?
Obligatory "OMG SO GRITTY" dark blue color filter.
James Ortiz
We can only await the day.
Jose Torres
Fuck this was a good movie to see in the theater. I'm gonna have to buy and rewatch it now aren't I
John Brown
By that logic North Korea won the Korean war.
Jordan Campbell
The book is based on the authors own experience of the war
Aaron Butler
Shit I'd do it if I knew how to do subs or wasn't too autistic about the language. In the trailer OP posted, the line "Mihin täs sit oikee lähretää? Vissii helevettii asti" is translated "Where are we going? To hell?". It's good, sure, but "Where are we goin' then" Guess it's to hell." would be more accurate.
What are you on about?
The film and the book are centered on a machine gun company in the 8th infantry regiment, it's not really supposed to be about the typical locations
Leo Cruz
Get the fuck back to /leftypol/ you Stalin apologist.
> This movie, we can see women a little more than in the previous films and of course the original novel, but there aren't enough are there? You feel that way? > I do, you could've made a version where other than men go to the front lines couldn't you? There's a Lotta there, there weren't that many women at the front right? They didn't fight in the defense forces then.. We wanted to make a historically realistic film. > Yeah but, but I was just asking
The director and one of the leading actors are interviewed on why there weren't enough wamen in the movie.
Oh and also, the Marshal of Finland isn't Finnish production
Andrew King
>Vietnam lost against China Vietnam didn't really win either. Bad analogy.
Andrew Reyes
Y E S E S
Nathaniel Reed
Just looked up Marshal of Finlad Holy fuck >We wuz Finnish Marshal's n sheiit