Is Kung Fu (discipline + weapons) the most practical martial art?

'kung fu', kempo, or Chinese boxing is just any Chinese martial art. pick the right one and don't bother with a gay ass tonfa. people will think you're a cop larper and that all three ends of it have been in your ass. tonfa styles aren't really Chinese anyway, you'd be taking Korean, Japanese, or Filipino forms.

what's with all the fucking martial arts threads today?

Boxing has lasted longer than Kung Fu. So has Pankration which is essentially modern MMA without submissions. Kung Fu is actually descended from pankration and has had all the practicality stripped from it. If you wanna say you know some Asian shit learn Muay Thai if not be a basic bitch like everyone else and go to an MMA, boxing,or jiu jitsu gym. You'd be better off simply lifting weights and throwing haymakers than trying any of the bullshido in kung fu teaches you.

Kung fu is garbage.

Any martial art that does not have full contact sparring is garbage. Point sparring is not sparring.

t. been in muay thai for 1 year so far

No

as someone who has been doing wushu and taichi for 15 years, no. Its a great way to stay in shape and train/maintain your physique. But anything practical you wanna look at MMA shit BJJ or even Sanda

Kung-fu will only offer you so much without practical application.
Practicing by yourself might gain you the ability to move in such a way to hold your own in combat but without a understanding of distance, timing/tempo, leverage and all other aspects involved you'll likely get yourself maimed and/or killed. By all means, develop your fighting ability though understand without regular sparring you won't be as effective as you'd hope to be.

>Kung fu descended from pankration
Nigger what?

You can learn Kung fu about as much as you can learn fighting. Kung fu is an umbrella term for hundreds of Asian fighting styles. Almost all of which are dead and only exist on paper.

These tards probably got their knowledge of kung fu from martial arts movies, or possibly wushu. Kung fu, being as fucking broad as it is, has dozens of straight punches. Just off the top of my head, Wing Chun has a straight punch, and there's a thrust punch from Shaolin.

MMA is a good sport but a meme in real life, people trying to act tough think it's a "realistic" or "no frills" martial art because they see it on TV and it looks brutal. It's very effective in a cage, hand to hand, one on one, and if the goal is as much a takedown as a KO. Not very realistic.

If yout want a practical martial art, learn Krav Maga. It'll teach you not just hand to hand, striking and grappling, but also dealing with groups, attacking or being attacked by makeshift weapons like sticks/clubs/knives, and disarming.

Most kung fu that claim they go back hundreds of year were actually made in the last century or so. They just claim they go back to some famous historical soldier or master because it makes them look better. The reality is that many of them were lost after the Cultural Revolution and most of the current ones that exist are basically just folk dance and/or gymnastics masquerading as practical combat. They may have some good ideas, techniques, or principles for combat, but don't train in an alive/realistic fashion that would let them do their kung fu under stress against someone trying to beat them up.

The ones that are good are ones that are full-contact, which end up looking like other full-contact martial arts with a bit of Chinese flavor, rather than full out twirly wushu you see in the movies. Even Shaolin monks train in Western boxing, since it gives them a practical and relatively quick-to-learn self defense system to use in the meantime while they practice their esoteric kung fu ways.

Sanda/Sanshou is a form of Chinese kickboxing and is pretty good. It's similar to Muay Thai with a greater emphasis on sweeps. Shuai Jiao is also good for clinch and standing throws, kind of like Judo. Some of the more practical Tai Chi styles basically look like folk wrestling with some striking thrown in. I've heard good things about full contact Choy Li Fat.

Tonfas are pretty fun and are relatively practical, but unless you're a cop, you're probably not going to be able to carry around. If you're looking for weapons, I'd look for something else as a primary.

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>he fell for the krav maga meme
confirmed for never training

What about Aikido?

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>If yout want a practical martial art, learn Krav Maga

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Aikido is more of a philosophy than a combat art.
>How could a martial art that lets you destroy people with your well trained body be considered useless?
Because it doesn't train you 99% of the time. The only consistently well performing kung-fu style is Sanda. All other styles of kung-fu are questionable.

Kung-fu was completely neutered by Chairman Mao's cultural revolution.

>mma is a meme

If you want to learn how to defend yourself you need to do full contact sparring. Literally any discipline with full contact sparring will make you an absolutely superior fighter than your average joe on the street. The problem with kung fu and other memeshit martial arts is a lack of full contact sparring.

Here's why: It doesn't matter what brand of dance moves you practice, when you get hit in the face or dropped with a double leg takedown all that shit goes right out the window. The only thing that can prepare you to fight is actual fighting. MMA-style training does exactly this, and you also get in pretty good physical shape if you are halfway serious and you go to a good gym.

Krav maga is a meme. If you aren't doing regular full contact sparring a real fighter will very easily rip you to pieces. If you try some eye gouge or nut kick against a real fighter you're just gonna piss them off enough to put you in the hospital.

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True, full contact sparring is essential.

MMA style prepares you very well for executing and stopping takedowns, guarding and striking, and a lot of things. Comprehensive, realistic training is key, regardless of fighting style. Which brings me to my point - people who OP will fight will not necessarily be unarmed or alone. Takedowns are absolutely useless when you take down one and another one beats the crap out of you. MMA does absolutely nothing on group fighting, or using and defending against common weapons.

Also Krav Maga does have full contact training. And it does teach more than go for the nuts and eyes.

I'd also add meeting a trained fighter in real life is extremely unlikely, while meeting groups of people and armed people are common. Especially those looking to pick a fight.

This. MMA techniques are not inherently the best but they're more successful than other styles because they train to spar and fight while most other styles just do drills/katas/forms or have impractical sparring (i.e. Olympic TKD, Wing Chun slap hands) .

>Takedowns are absolutely useless when you take down one and another one beats the crap out of you
Not when you knock them out with the takedown.

>absolutely nothing on group fighting
>or using and defending against common weapons.
this is true

>Also Krav Maga does have full contact training
the vast majority of schools do not

>And it does teach more than go for the nuts and eyes
But they don't train them well enough for someone to reliably do under stress because of Krav Maga's selling point of training people in a very short amount of time.

If you get jumped by a pack of feral nogs MMA experience will absolutely come in handy. For example, you need to know how to not get taken down. There really is no martial art training or special dance moves that will prepare you any better for multiple attackers. If they are serious, and you can't run away, you're probably gonna get fucked up regardless. Your best bet is to use footwork to keep your distance and just fucking get away.

Now, MMA-style fighting serves as an excellent base of skill and practice for anyone who is serious about defending themselves. Once you've got some experience it might make sense to branch out a bit for more specific applications. For down and dirty weapons fighting the Filipino disciplines are great - as one example.

I say that Krav Maga is a meme because of the way it's marketed, and the fact that most of the schools are utter garbage. Without a baseline of basic fighting ability and experience, it is highly doubtful that anyone will be able to perform a fancy disarming technique in actual combat. MMA training will at least teach you proper footwork and teach you not to panic when confronted with a threat. I really don't see the point of any specialized training for a beginner that is gonna give you a bigger return on your investment than MMA.

What about sambo or sumo?
>inb4 lol at sumo
For the purpose of drunk bar shit, being able to shove good comes in handy. Getting your shit pushed over 3 or 4 times is embarrassing enough that many (especially untrained) will just back off. It's also low investment in that you don't have to stay tangled up with one person very long especially if they're untrained/normal sized. It'd be no task at all for a sumo to shove multiple people over in a short time frame.

Once they're down you can just trample them.

you can find countless videos of kung fu teachers getting their asses whooped by people doing stuff like MMA or BJJ

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What's cravmaga?

I go once a week with my mother in law to zumba and i feel a lot more confident in myself and i have more synergy

little known fact: zumba and krav maga are the only two dark arts banned from UFC competition for being too lethal.

depends
samurais werent only into gong fu but also they practiced zen and japanese magic(chants and mudras)
but the gong fu japanese were practicing was tailored towards killing with a sword all of their moves and the moves you see now are made for the user to be carried with a sword and not just whatever sword but only kissaki and nakago
and modern day japans exercise with iaido which was created to comfort the new type 95 swords that are made after ww2

mma are fighters nothing more nothing else

kama sutra

Girls should learn chin-na joint locking and wrestling. All that hair pulling is an opportunity.

>taichi for 15 years, no
t. Yang style

kung fu isnt even a martial art, its a catch all term for martial arts styles that originated in china. Youre defending something when you don't even know what it is.

>MMA is a good sport but a meme in real life, people trying to act tough think it's a "realistic" or "no frills" martial art because they see it on TV and it looks brutal. It's very effective in a cage, hand to hand, one on one, and if the goal is as much a takedown as a KO. Not very realistic.
>If yout want a practical martial art, learn Krav Maga. It'll teach you not just hand to hand, striking and grappling, but also dealing with groups, attacking or being attacked by makeshift weapons like sticks/clubs/knives, and disarming.

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>The reality is that many of them were lost after the Cultural Revolution and most of the current ones that exist are basically just folk dance and/or gymnastics masquerading as practical combat.
I really don't understand why most people don't understand this. The Cultural Revolution was one of the worst things to happen to Chinese martial arts.

They teach you not to use it and never fight people, so they never end up realizing it's bullshit. Also it works okay if the other guy is using kung fu too. But if they use anything else you're fucked.

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