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Israel and Syria/Iran have been exchanging a lot of rocket fire the last couple hours, attacks are on going.

Syria is actually firing back into the Golan Heights this time.

>BEIRUT, LEBANON (1:30 A.M.) – At approximately 1:00 A.M. (Damascus Time), the Israeli military fired several artillery shells towards the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) positions in the Al-Quneitra Governorate city of Al-Ba’ath.

>The Syrian Army responded by firing missiles towards an IDF base in the occupied Golan Heights – no confirmation on whether or not anything hit its target.

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>Large explosions heard around Damascus

Is war imminent?

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>middle east general is back
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>Is war imminent?
They've been exchanging fire for at least 2 hours now, it started a while ago.

Yeah, they're really fucking going at it.

I can't imagine Israel would be escalating at this pace if they didn't plan at least a limited ground invasion.

Well then, I’m heading to the bunker.

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So Iran forces are the next that get bombed while Russia acts all offended, but then does nothing like always?

This is the first time in recent years that Syria/Iran are firing back.

So I'd say it is possible. It will get really shitty of Lebanon/HezB get involved.

Israel has been bombing mostly Iranian sites in Syria, this could turn into a mess real soon.

A few seconds ago.
>More loud booms, jet activity near Golan just now

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The only reason I could think to do a ground invasion would be to set up a buffer zone to stop anyone from firing into Israel, but then the question is, then what? Stay there forever fighting insurgents? Seems like a bad deal.

>Russia unlikely to limit Israeli actions in Syria: Netanyahu

He just got back today from visiting with Putin.

Yeah I really have no idea what the Israeli plan here is.
I mean they obviously see an existential threat from the hez/IRGC forces that are assembled in Syria. But what exactly is their goal?

Drive them into an open conventional fight?

Has America or Russia gotten involved yet?

Russia has stated that it won't interfere.

No, not really.

Israel a minute ago.
>Israeli army spokesman: Israeli army is attacking Iranian targets in Syria
SeeSee above

US state department sent support to Israel about an hour ago.

Hopefully Israel doesn’t try and create another false flag gas attack to drag the Israel Foreign Legion (US) into another pointless war for Jews and greater Israel.

>Russia will do nothing
Like a clockwork. If Russia would be a guy, it would be the one that hangs out with you, does fun stuff with you, but evaporates the second you actually need help.

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Israelis going so fucking hard that Syrian air defenses can't keep up oh shi

>Over thirty Israeli missiles have hit targets near Damascus - activists.

Death to animal assad!

90 minutes till sunrise, if fire continues past that point I'm just going to accept that a major interstate war just started in the MIddle East and go to bed.

Rumor on Twitter
>#BREAKING - #Russian Air Force now deployed from #Hmeymim Air Base in #Syria on route towards #Damascus.

I don't think the Russians are willing to escalate this and start shooting down Israeli jets.

Israeli jets just violated Lebanese airspace.

I hope they are

Reports that a Patriot missile was fired.

Iron Dome has been firing off for awhile, any idea what they might have needed a Patriot for? Potential intrusion of a Syrian aircraft?

>Large explosion at Qusaiyr village now. South Homs countryside Syria - Lebanon borders

I gotta say, this seems like the start to a regional war.

I can't remember a clash of this intensity in quite a long time.

This is lengthier than previous engagements, but i'm not willing to call it a war yet. Every possibility this fizzles out by tomorrow.

The Israelis are not even trying to hide their aggression anymore. They're obsessed with not being the only nuclear power in the region.

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Rocket attack on Israeli air base.

The thing is I can't just see Hezbollah/Iran backing down from this.

Israel pretty much said, "I can do what the fuck I want when the fuck I want".

They either escalate, or they're gonna have to move out of Syria.

The thing is that Hezbollah and Iran can't win an offensive war against Israel.

So I'm presuming that this will back down, because neither side benefits from an escalation.

It's just the Israelis playing fuck-fuck games to remind Tehran not to get to close.

Hezbollah in particular doesn't care about saving face. They're the underdog, they don't lose any PR by getting wrecked.

>teh j00s
>muh false flag
Try not to choke on all those red pills.

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Right, but they essentially have to save face.
If Israel can do this now, they can keep doing this over and over.

Israel is essentially throwing down the gauntlet that they aren't going to tolerate IRGC/Hez presence in Syria any longer.

I also think they'll probably back down and pull out, but I think it's riskier than you assume.

>SANA again reports with "breaking" "dozens of Israeli missiles shot down by Syrian air defense".

Don't know how true that is.

They're gonna sit back and let Israel wipe out the Iranians, they outlived their usefulness in Syria now that ISIS is more or less gone. Iran is fucked.

Israel has been bombing targets in Syria for years. Not on this scale, but they've been doing it.

They have, but it hasn't been anywhere close to this scale.

It's the scale that is essentially Israel telling Iran to either make a move, or face this for the foreseeable future.

Other reports seem to have targets getting hit all over the place. It's possible both of these reports can be true, but only if Israel has launched a strike comparable to the one the US launched a month ago.

It’s probably not true at all. They might have gotten a few but not many if any at all. They said the same thing when the US, France, and GB bombed them, but it was proven they in now way had the capability to shoot down the number they claimed

>or face this for the foreseeable future.

Everyone was already expecting Israel to launch attacks into Syria.

You're not even trying, kike

They’ve been doing it for years, this is nothing new really. This is just the first time they’ve openly made statements about doing so.

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INTERCEPTION!

why were there not more of these videos when the US air strike happened?

I don't think anyone expected this scale though, and being so belligerent about it.

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Israel is firing way more missiles over multiple hours and telegraphed something like this last night.

Israel goes to war every 10 years. The brass wont get their promotion if they don't.

The coalition strike also had EW coverage, the Israelis don't have a similar capability.

I'm curious if the Israelis will utilize the F-35

I wish Iran would wipe the floor with Israel. They make me sick.

>The coalition strike also had EW coverage

is there some sort of land based EW system? or is it all flying stuff?

iran makes me sick for the thousands of Americans they killed in iraq

>the juice
really?

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>SANA: Israel is trying to target the Syrian air defense battalions and is trying to destroy some radars

Hez actually lost a noticeable amount of face getting involved in Syria. Before that they were seen as being primarily a nationalist force, albeit one backed by Iran, but after they got involved it started to look like they were Iranian puppets.

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I think that the Iranians and Hizbollah are going to see if they can stir up trouble in the west bank and gaza, and then retreat. That way they can disguise the PR lose with more stories about people bravely dying while tossing rocks at armed soldiers

They are shoving them so hard they probaly need to put them in their ass as well to keep up with the pace.

They can’t though sadly. If Iran even attempted anything the US would immediately step in...which would end up pulling in the likes of major European powers, Australia, and Canada. As if the US involving itself wouldn’t be enough. The Russians have already said they won’t be interfering (because they honestly probably don’t give a shit about the Iranians anyways) but they know damn well if shit kicked off and they sided with Iran their asses would get fried. It’s just not a good outcome no matter what for Iran. This’ll probably just end with nothing happening desu.

Is Israel likely to be using HARMs for this or still using cruise missiles?

Also hell, if there's ever a time to use the F-35...

Goddamn. Will this significantly degrade their AA ability or can other radars compensate?

The recent elections in Lebanon kinda indicate otherwise. All of their puppet parties got noticeable gains in parliament

I mean, more importantly Iran can't because they don't have the power projection to reach Israel. That's a really long supply line, the Israelis would demolish them if they tried to strike from such a far distance.

The problem is that still leaves Iran fucked. Israel has been dealing with riots for decades now.

The IRGC can’t withstand a long term bombing campaign like this.

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Exactly, Israel has a capable military. No matter what Iran really has no chance. Best thing they can do is bunker down and deny any casualties like they probably will.

There was an early report that Israel was launching missiles from within Israeli airspace to attack targets in Syria.

Reports also that Israeli Air Force is flying above Lebanon.

>the Israelis don't have a similar capability.
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You don't need a dedicated aircraft to engage in EW.

Yeah they were saying the attacks were coming from Lebanese airspace.

Compared to the self-destructing SAMs that Syria was trying to pass off as interceptions during the US and friends airstrikes, this does look more like an actual hit. I'll wait until we get photos of wreckage before making a more solid decision. Anyone have details on what kind of missiles the Israelis are using?

Oh shit. If they're revving up the SEAD, it implies that this won't just be a limited operation.

Shhhh, if it's a popular opinion you're supposed to believe the opposite.

It's not the entire RG in syria, though. Just an expeditionary force. If the bombing gets to bad, they can just move away from the border.

Iran's made such massive gains (mainly influence and friends) in this conflict that Israel missile sniping a few guardsmen won't really diminish their position. The really valuable thing Iran has isn't land, its the fact that Assad will remember who held him out in the war

>because they honestly probably don’t give a shit about the Iranians anyways
That's what I'm saying , Iran outlived their usefulness and are now a liability. Russia is going to let Israel chase them out of Syria. Bibi and Putin are friends, anyway.

Popeyes have been the most popular munition for the Israelis in Syria.

There were reports a few hours ago that wreckage of potentially a Delilah was found however.

>Some good proper conventional warfare

wew lads

>held him out in the war
>He won't just be a true puppet to Russia or Iran at this point.

>Oh shit. If they're revving up the SEAD, it implies that this won't just be a limited operation.

Yeah certainly seems that way but we will see, this war has false-started so many times already.

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I agree to an extent, but given that Russia has given Israel carte blanche for going after them, I expect Israel would happily continue their campaign until they’re fully out of the country.

Why just stop at the border?

Remember all the hype threads for the Russian air defenses going to Syria? What ever happened to them?

Russia always cucks out.

I think very few if any actually went, and I do remember specifically that during the American led bombings the Russians refused to use them (most likely out of fear of provoking the US).

Got shot down by reality.

Like I said, most of Iran's gains in Syria are non-physical, so Israel can't exactly walk in and take them. In addition, I don't think Russia will let waltz into their puppet state without making some noise. Bombing, sure, but no ground warfare yet

>shell the shit out of Syrian military
>rebels take back territory

That would be a physical gain.

That’s just how they are. They show off during war games, flaunt their technology, but when the going gets tough they use proxy wars or simply give up and shrug it off. The Russians and can be real cucks sometimes.

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they literally watched the bull that is Israel toss Syria's salad in front of them

AFAIK, discussion are still ongoing about SAA getting S-300s

Why would Russia stop Israel when Israel is doing them a favor?

>America

Soon

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Lmao this analogy killed me

"rebels"

That’s typically what they’re called... they’re rebelling against Assad.. it’s kinda in the name.

Russia did say they don't want to interfere in a fight between Israel and Iran. It could be that Russia doesn't want to make an enemy of either country.
Overall though, I can't help but wonder if Russia has internal doubts about the performance of its air defense systems and is refusing to use them in case they don't perform as advertised.

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Honestly not the guy you replied to, but I kinda don’t think Russia see’s Iran as a terribly useful ally. They’ve always kind of just hung around out of situation, but Russia stands far more to gain off of being the only Syrian benefactor and parlaying that into greater ME influence. A bunch of Shi’a running around YA ALI’ing all over the place after the conflict doesn’t really help them very much.

Netanyahu was just in Moscow for Victory Day.

He was a guest of honor for the Proceedings. Don’t you think that told the Iranians something?

The Israelis and the Americans are fine with Assad in power and the Russians in Latakia.

All concerned have decided that the IRGC have worn out their welcome in Syria, especially the Silent Partner, the Gulf Cooperation Council.

The strategic objective is to get the Iranians out of Syria and broker a Settlement in Lebanon. The long range Saudi-American objective is to push the Persians back across the Shatt al-Arab waterway.

>There is a total electrical outage in #Damascus #Syria at the present time. #Israel may have hit power generation stations/distribution hubs. Or the city could have gone dark on purpose.