Bulgarian Makarov for conceal carry?

I own one for CCW. Im a skinny dude and wear tighter fit business casual most of the time. This pistol is great for us skinny guys. I usually go SoB, but it is so thin and single stack you can wear it side with most shirts. Ammo isnt as much of a problem as most people say, academy sells 9x18 mak now. Make sure you look at what type it is.

There are mainly 4 types that are common.
Most common: Bulgarian PM, great reliable little surplus gun, will shoot 9x18, some of the stock grips have a screw hole in the back digs into your hand if you havent worn the rack a bit yet. common asking price is anywhere from 300-350 here in midwest. JG sales has very good ones going for I think 250?
Russian/IMEZ: These are weird, mainly identifiable by the adjustable rear sights, weird on a pistol. It features all the same perks of a traditional mak, except two things. it has the rear adjustable sight, and it can also be chambered in .380. Be sure to get the distinction, there isnt a whole lot of reports of issues with either calibre.
Hungarian: Pieces of shit, known to slam fire, stay away from these.

Forgot last type.
East German, these are the best that are readily available, but finding one for

Great pistols. Very accurate. Much better options are available for CCW as the Maks weigh about as much as a brick. You could probably buy a new Shield or Ruger LC9s for about the same price.

>300 dollary doos for a fucking Mak
Jesus. I got a shield for $235.

I want one
>da/sa
>very reliable
>round will penetrate
>8+1
>cheap enough I don’t mind leaving it in car during work
>2.5 Finger grip
In terms of a concealable single stack da/sa it’s the best choice

That debate doesn’t exist anymore

*rebate
Thanks phone

Its a small gun but there are superior options for defense

>notices Bulg OwO
Maks are collectors items, maybe a viable carry choice a few years ago when they were cheaper but there's literally no reason to not just get a modern subcompact with the features, capacity and warranty versus milsurp relic.

here's a pic of my EDC
and my p238

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Me ,the wife and oldest son carry Makarovs daily. We have no issues .

Hungary never made makarovs, they just made pistols chambered for 9x18.
The only countries that made direct copies of the mak were Bulgaria, E. Germany, and China. The Russian civilian version is different from the service pistol in that it used double stack 10 rnd mags and has the adjustable sights.

Carry it in a urban carry holster, become slav James Bond.

Not all Russian civilian pistols are the doublestack.
t. own a Baikal single stack that uses milspec Makarov magazines

Id pick a modern (well, lets call it contemporary) pistol for self defense. The mak has its collectors charms but in terms of ergos and ease of use, i think a new carry pistol has it beat.
Its very thin, but its kind of big for 8 rounds of 9mak imo

What would you pick if you wanted something similar and modern? Bersa Thunder?

This. I carried a mak IWB at about 5 oclock. It's kinda heavy, and if you do it, I would carry appendix.
A glock 42/43 runs a little bit more but is overall a better gun, IMO. I switched to a Glock 26 and carry appendix. Much better. The mak is a cool gun and fun to shoot, but kind of awkward to hold and with such a small grip, I always throw the first couple shots pretty badly until i can get my grip right.

Best possible conceal carry on the market.

Which would you guys prefer? Bulgarian Makarov or a CZ 82 i'm torn right now between the two and no I can't buy both for now at least.

My old man worked in Philadelphia as a banker for several years and carried one in a shoulder holster along with 2 extra magazines. He loved it and said it worked well for him. He's 6'1 and about 260 if that helps at all.

I got mine for $200 from PSA.

>crude sights compared to what is available now like fiber optics, trijicons or ameriglos
>9mm Makarov which isn't as effective as 9mm
>single stack, heel magazine release which makes frequent reloads a little slower than a conventional mag release or even a paddle mag release
>very limited ammunition selection, afaik hollowpoints don't feed as reliably as FMJ's do
>relatively heavy for what it is
>limited holster selection, whatever you will find won't be as quality as one of the better holster brands like JM Custom, Raven or Keeper's

Other than that, Makarovs are quite robust and reliable but I would sooner opt for an M&P Shield in 9mm before using one for CC.

Thanks for the detailed response.

My local gunstore has a Polish made mak for 250 was considering getting it whats the specifics on those

I guess its a p-64 not a mak

got one touching my dick right now

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a plastic shield! hahahahahah!

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put the cash on the table if he picks it up its sold...

there is an $800 Norico Mak for sale on Gunbrokers right now

and in a pinch and out of ammo you can throw the pistol at the dudes head and score big wins!

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post pics

am I a pussy for being scared to carry IWB a Makarov with 9 rounds and safety on? I tried it last night and as the gun was going in the holster I said Fuck this, Im afraid of blowing my balls off. I usually carry in Condition 3

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I mexican carry

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Maks aren't nearly as heavy as everyone makes them out to be. I carry mine in a deep concealment holster (because IWB at my job is impossible) and I carry two spare mags in my pocket. Here's my analysis:

Pros:
>not too heavy, not too light
>recoil is negligible
>points well
>ammo is plentiful and cheap
>lots of tactical options on the slav market
>8+1 capacity
>hungarian version has a standard thumb mag release
>decent trigger pull in DA, SA is a little hard but still good
>DA/SA for your tactical pleasure
>mags are plentiful and parts readily available because lol surplus
>extremely reliable, the hi-point of the surplus handgun market
>pretty much guaranteed to outlive you
Cons:
>sights are meh to really bad depending on the variant
>heel release is bad for quick reloads
>decocker presents (very low) chance for ND
>parts will eventually dry up
>better than .380, worse than 9mm Luger
>snobs will shit on you because it's not the latest plastic framed pocket pistol in 9mm Luger

They're good CC guns. There will never ever be a perfect CC gun, but this is pretty good by anyone's standards. Just prepare to see pretty high mag prices because people love to gouge the prices on them.

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>Im afraid of blowing my balls off.
How would you possibly manage that with the safety on?
Even if you by some miracle of mechanics managed to accidentally disengage the safety the DA trigger pull is heavy and long enough that you shouldn't be able to ND anyway.

But then again i guess there is always the whole "idiot proof vs the universe coming up with a better idiot" theory.

Its not a safety it's only the decocker..
I know they say it's safe, but why bother when it only takes a second to rack the slide. That's also the reason I got turned off by the Star BM. The hammer goes back and you lock it from there. Fuck that....I don't trust nuttin!

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>1 second to draw, 1 second to rack, 1 second to get on target.
you’re probably dead.

>1 second to draw
Highly doubt that user is pulling a second long draw. Give him three seconds, four seconds to line up his sights

Super dead.

>Super dead.
Ironic how a lot of people think condition 3 is safe. Plenty of videos online of dudes almost getting killed when they fail to get their gun into action carrying in such a manner.

Any idea of the going rate of Russian double stack Makarovs?

>Its not a safety it's only the decocker..
uwat? Makarov safety blocks both the trigger and the hammer, it's not just a decocker.

Yeah sure in YOUR GAY FANTASY ! I live around humans! Not sure about you.

I just don't trust that decocker. I winch every time I use the thing

300-400 usually. Worth it tho. Better sights with better cap.

Except that is not what you stated earlier:
>Its not a safety
Sounds like you might be mentally defective, but even ignoring that why do you carry a gun you don't trust?
>I winch every time I use the thing
If you need a winch to operate the safety you might be physically defective as well.

The double stack magazines are $90 if you can find one

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Keep in mind how a court is going to see you when you're carrying a "communist" weapon for "self defense". Just something to keep in mind.

Firearms are inanimate objects, they do not have a political agenda.
If your defense attorney can't manage to get this point across in your defense, get someone better to represent you.

Today's court system might see a communist weapon not favorably anyway

but they have no problems using their Chinese made computers to file your ass away!

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The slide-mounted manual safety uses the more intuitive up is safe/down is fire setting, which is opposite of the Walther PP and PPK style pistols (and their FEG clones). The safety also safely decocks or drops the hammer and physically blocks the hammer from hitting the firing pin if the user wishes to carry the pistol with a round in the chamber and hammer down. This is much safer than manually holding the hammer and pulling the trigger to decock. General firearm safety tips apply (i.e. point gun down range when decocking), but the Makarov does not have a history of accidental discharges while decocking. The hammer cannot be moved when the safety is engaged (except for the later modified Simson-Suhl Makarov) and thus the slide is blocked and the action cannot be cleared or loaded. The safety is held in the safe and fire positions by a pressed-in detent spring and the appropriate detents in the slide. Should the detent spring fall out, the pistol will most likely go to the "fire" position. The safety should be replaced if the spring has fallen out.

The safety can be easily removed by rotation clockwise past the "safe" position, making approximately a 120° angle with the muzzle, and pulling it out of the slide. The safety also holds the firing pin in place, so care should be taken that the firing pin is not lost when the safety is removed.

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M&P Shield, Glock 43, or Sig P365.

Anything that's a single stack 9mm Luger honestly. More holster options, parts support, and a more potent cartridge.

I have a polish one and I like it. I'd like it better if the previous owner hadn't painted it and I didn't have to shoot it like a nig. But for trading him a hipoint I cant complain.

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If only you could attach one gun to the bottom of the other, but then the ATF would shoot your dog

t. Ivan Vladimir