Could a Claymore be attached to a selfie stick as a CC weapon?

oh fuck. been awhile since i saw this

Claymores are just a block of C4 with some steel balls glued to one side stuffed into a plastic box. When they detonate, the C4 explodes outwards in all directions, which can wound or kill you via concussion/flame or shrapnel. The steel balls are not the only thing that comes out of the mine, in other words.

Why do you need the stick?

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memories

Anyone have an after pic of the police robot that went in and detonated a directional explosive to kill the Dallas shooter? I suspect not much was left when using a pound of C4.

How many Americans died before they pressed the warning on that thing?

Obviously too many.

In one video someone talks about warnings in those things and one says: "don't eat inside contents"

Like little baby.
>24kg total weight
>9.5kg Hexotol charge
>1200 fragments, 1700m/s
>Effective spread 100m wide x 4m high at 150m

Meant to be used against landing helicopters and light armored vehicles.

6:35
youtube.com/watch?v=qiq_8G7UQ2k

You mean a bang-stick.
Used by divers to push at sharks.

Some use rifle or pistol ammo, some use 12guage - that would be closest to a mini claymore.

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How could I go about making a claymore analog that I could safely attach to a plate carrier and detonate with minimal damage to myself? I'd like a weapon of last resort that doesn't kill me.

what is this mad man up to?

I think you might be better off with this.
Anything you try to make that won't kill or injure you will be way to wimpy to provide effective results on target.

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EODfag
Simple, just completely change the laws of physics as the apply to explosives.
>you've already had a fistful of posts noting that explosive effects are omnidirectional, so stop being a dick.
Or, you could fit a directional charge in the traditional /k location and fart towards your enemies.
>pic, as always, related

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For a second, I thought the shell propping it up was a grip.

Circumsised penised

What if I had an AR500 plate on? Could that increase my ability to survive (broken ribs are fine) the back blast or would it basically kill me with spalling?

EODfag
Even with a magical vibranium chestplate the blast wave will travel upwards under your chin to rip your face off and downwards to take your gutfat and balls off, ditto arms unless you're holding onto your ass cheeks to fire the clacker.
>fuck it, go ahead, you'll be fine...

Pre-interweb military meme photo.
SF training jump just fucking around for the lolz.
>1990s Aussie version

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No because the backblast is 15m. So unless your selfie stick is the size of a bus then you will be killed.

Thats the combat distance btw, 50m is training distance.

Fuck, didn't think about the blast wave. OK, EOD-user, any idea on how to get a similar effect without dismembering myself? I'm looking for a non-suicide suicide vest, beat the terrorists at their own game.

sproings
or, better yet, dont make the news for being a dipshit

just use the trucks of peace and tolerance approach like belgium, germany, iraq and canada

EODfag
>see post 1
If it was doable, we'd already have fitted one to every crayoneater.

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Why does everything awesome have to be either a war crime or a clear violation of the laws of physics?

Guess I'll have to rig something retarded out of shotgun shells and black pipe. Not discrete, but at least it's reloadable.

>So unless your selfie stick is the size of a bus

>cykaaaaaaaaa-
>*BANG*

derp

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>a claymore analog that I could safely attach to a plate carrier and detonate with minimal damage to myself? I'd like a weapon of last resort that doesn't kill me.

That's called a shotgun.

>Anything you try to make that won't kill or injure you will be way to wimpy to provide effective results on target.

This. All that energy has to come from somewhere - and a lot of it is going to go into you, since you're right there.

>What if I had an AR500 plate on?

If you set off an explosive charge in front of an AR500 plate that's sitting against your chest, the first thing that would happen is the explosive would blow/burn off everything on the front of your body (like your face, penis, etc), while simultaneously slamming the AR500 plate into your ribcage, which might break something.

>shotgun empty
>one guy left
>the room-clearing spray of the first two shells didn't hit him somehow, likely a sign of God
>point grip towards enemy
>hidden shell fires
>fuck your signs

EODfag
Todays blast physics trivia:
Standard SVIEDs are wrapped around the midriff and detonate outward radially to spread the frag, but the upward edge of the blastwave coming up all around the torso usually pops the wearer's head off like the old champagne bottle / sabre trick.
Makes ID of the wearer real easy fast to track down his network before they disappear.
Best forensic trick is to inflate the torn off neck with a small portable air compresor to put natural plumpness back into the cheeks for a more recognisable look in the photos.
>ywn inflate a jihadis melon like a football

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Shotgun version of pic related?

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Ever see the video of the female suicide bomber who packed C4 between her tits and literally sent her head bouncing around like a ball? Inside a bank I think and I don't think she killed anyone.

Cool trivia tid bit though, much appreciated.

>claymore
>400 meters range
what

It's a cloud of steel balls, propelled by one and a half pounds of C4. It can reach out and touch things from quite a distance.

Some mad max shit

Imagine 700ish light weight .22lr steel bullets flying through the air at 4000fps. they can go a little ways, that being said 400m is pretty optimistic. effective distance is more like 100m in terms of spread.

Yeah, that diagram just demonstrates the potential range. It's how far the balls *could* go, not necessarily how far they *will* go. If you're actually trying to hit something you gotta wait until they're a bit closer.

It's like how .22LR will travel for about a mile if you shoot it up into the air at an angle, but its practical max effective range is really only about 50m

>muh .22
A mine doesn't have a barrel.

Doesn't matter, what matters is velocity and mass of the projectile.

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So not high and not big?

You seem confused, do you not understand the concept of maximum theoretical range vs maximum effective range?
What is shown in that image is the maximum danger area to avoid the risk of injury, not effective combat range.

in finnish army the claymore is called "somali television"

3.2mm steel balls 0.68g each at ~1200m/s.
Will go further then you think, unlikely to be lethal past 200m but could still cause injury.

Very unlikely to even hit past 200m.

Yes, but would you voluntarily stand 200m in front of one?

oh, i assure you that every projectile will hit SOMETHING.

The bot was fine other than the arm the charge was attached to got damaged.

You still don't seem to grasp the difference between effective range, theoretical range and minimum safe distance.

The effective range is 15 meters.

I have always heard 50.
The damn thing has a 16m risk area just from backblast ffs.

50 feet.

>FM 23-23
ANTIPERSONNEL MINE M18A1 AND M18 (CLAYMORE)

Derp

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What's it like talking about things you know nothing about?

>getting hit by a steel ball going 1,000m/s at 50ft will not kill you

But, but in Battlefield...

Source?

>>ywn have this much fun pretending to be about to blow battle buddy's face off
>> ywn know true happiness is helping your mate go full allah akbar
>>why live

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If you got a REALLY long stick I suppose it would work in concept. It's a terrible idea though, don't do it. Or at least post pictures if you do.

>pic
kek

CRITICAL HIT DOUBLE DAMAGE

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What is this "magic stick"?

Sadly, I've been giving this some thought. You could make a somewhat thick foregrip with a small striker inside. For the normal thickness, you could probably fit a 20-gauge shell and have almost no room for a barrel. If you were willing to go thicker, a 12-gauge Aguila minishell would allow you to maximize your effective barrel length.

I'm not sure how legal this is, though. I think it qualifies as an AOW, Destructive Device or an SBS , possibly some combination depending on if you have it mounted or not.

My roommate is currently talking to his sister-wife on the phone about who gets to keep their kid.
Her trailer burnt down recently, so he's making a pretty strong case.

The long and short of it is, I'm pretty sure most people in the Army can't even read the warning labels.

kek

Won't the stick end up inside you?

I believe this is actually the dumbest thing I've ever read on Jow Forums

Except the mine end of the really long stick will be propelled back towards dickhead.

This is Jow Forums, parts of weapons ending up inside you is inevitable.

I wonder how fast you would go if you put the claymore on to a plate then onto your back and sit on a skateboard and detonate it!

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EODfag
VoD of C4 is 8000m/sec
So, you'd be going about 17,900mph - in all directions simultaneously.

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>in all directions simultaneously
I am going to refer to all explosion blast related injuries as "high speed omnidirectional relocation" from now on.

VoD is just how effectively the explosive will break him into bits, how fast the bits go is a function of his mass, the force produce by the explosion and how much of the blast he absorbs (flat on the back vs in between his ass cheeks for example)

you can join the french foreign legion pretty easily. they're still fucking up the middle east/africa

Only if you're your own enemy.

Assuming I still remember high school physics (probably not), your ass would be going 223 miles per hour very briefly, assuming it absorbs half the energy produced by the explosion. This would be very brief, as air resistance would more or less rapidly slow you down, depend on how big the pieces were. Likewise, assuming my physics is done correctly, you could expect your head (assuming it remained in one piece) or any other roughly spherical head sized gib to be blown at most 380 meters away.

>A powerhead, bang stick, smokie, or shark stick is a specialized firearm used underwater that is fired when in direct contact with the target.

They work on land too. If recoil from the 12ga shells is a problem, add a hydraulic shock absorber between the shell and handle.

What about using claymore's, instead of ERA on tanks. Just think of the synergy of it both being anti personal and heat protection.

Some M113s in Vietnam had twin box-cutouts over the tracks to mount anti-personnel claymores, with wiring holes leading inside to the driver. The mods were never removed, so in early Iraq some M113s still had them.

I never got to fire them but I imagine your ears would ring bad, even though the vehicle negates the backblast.

I was under the impression most smoke grenade dischargers on armoured vehicles could be loaded with fragmentation grenades, though this is rather dangerous to anyone nearby and not terribly practical.

They can, but they aren't in standard grenade launcher calibers, and the special HE ammo for smoke grenade dischargers is rare af.

I mean, WP "smoke" works fine on infantry too...