Does the russian navy actually pose a credible threat? It seems to me that half their tech is cold war era relics.
pic related is their primary ASW rotary platform.
how am i supposed to take that seriously?
just look at the fucking thing.
Does the russian navy actually pose a credible threat? It seems to me that half their tech is cold war era relics
Owen Roberts
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Jaxson Lee
It's their submersibles you have to worry about, OP.
Christopher Morris
so they say.
but we don't actually know, do we?
convenient thing about submarines is you can't see them.
Tyler Gray
Say what you want those Kamovs are good utility copters
Blake Nelson
I want her to smother me with her black pussy and tell me to lick her like a good little white boy. Occasionally letting get a breath in before she forces my head back into hey cunt with those legs.
Carson Hernandez
To the American navy? Nothing in the oceans of the world pose a threat to the American navy and geography has been the biggest factor to that around the world. Unlike china and russia, America is not land locked allowing for vast expansion of their naval forces.
Asher Stewart
But.... China and Russia aren't landlocked either?
Your autism is showing btw.
Austin Baker
i dont think you know what 'landlocked' means
Julian Roberts
Parker Hall
Neither has anywhere near as much coastline as the US. More coastline means more ports and drydocks, which means more ships.
Jayden Williams
Benjamin Walker
Oh no, please, tell me otherwise.
Aaron Price
Not really. Even Russia has given up on its navy. Their biggest "threat" are coastal anti-ship missiles.
Jose Lewis
>Implying american tech is not cold war era relics
Ka-27 is a fucking awesome helicopter, you dumbass.
Logan Clark
In the 80s? Sure.
Right now, their few barely functioning radars will get fucked by B-2 precise strikes, their navy is a rusty joke that could not stand attack from all seas and from the land most of their forces have optimiced their organization to fighting information warfare relying on mercs and locals for rear and side protection with only a small capable core, and their air fleet consists of ruined airways and old planes.
Also they have 20 armatas, a few more T-90s, an equal ammount of T-72s as the US has Abrams(and they will get wrecked)
Right now the only thing Rusia can do is give resistance, and the only reason it hasn't been freedomned yet it's for it's nuclear arsenal.
Ryder Walker
yeah but slants and slavs aren't exactly fucking Switzerland now are they you doly
Nathaniel Price
I didn't know the Russian navy had armatas and t-90's
Adrian Reyes
Basically except im choking on her strapon.
Easton Miller
Geez, it was a comment about navy, land and air forces.
Connor Torres
Russia and navy never really went together. Case in point: Russian-Japanese War.
Eli Morgan
Where the fuck did the OP talk about Russian land and air forces, he talked about Russian naval air power but nothing else you absolute blind nonce
James Allen
Funnily enough, you're wrong. lets get some numbers going here.
1. Russia, 23,396 miles of coastline
2. USA, 12,383 miles of coastline
3. China, 9,010 miles of coastline.
Your argument is invalid.
I personally believe the US has the largest, most powerful navy in the world. But not for the reasons you state.
This will all change in about 50 years though, China WILL match, if not surpass us, judging by current trends and state of affairs.
Here you go buddy.
Kevin Young
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Jason Ward
Russia's only warm water port is Sevastopol though
Carter Barnes
Stop moving the goalposts. It makes you look silly.
Thomas Richardson
You weebs love the Russian-Japanese to showcase the mighty yamato Nippon strength. But the truth is that it was logistics that resulted in defeat because there were basically no proper railroads to the far east.
Ryan Williams
Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan are technicaly not landlocked because the Caspian sea is connected with the Sea of Azov/Black sea and the Gulf of Finland/Baltic sea through the Volga river.
Its how Buyan(M) class ships sail from St Petersburg all the way to the Caspian sea/Black Sea.
Blake Bailey
I know you're a tripfag and trying to be relevant, and probobly enjoy the attention of getting responses. But no.
A landlocked state or landlocked country is a sovereign state entirely enclosed by land, or whose only coastlines lie on closed seas.
Jayden Ross
I've always thought the Ka-27 was aesthetic in a rather whimsical sort of way.
Noah Anderson
>A landlocked state or landlocked country is a sovereign state entirely enclosed by land, or whose only coastlines lie on closed seas.
Well, guess i am wrong then.
Isaac Ramirez
He's right this time, though. Novorossiysk is relatively shallow and Vladivostok freezes frequently.
Landon Walker
Perhaps he is right.
But this has nothing to do with the original argument, which still stands.
Isaiah Thompson
A majority of Russia's coatline is unusable as ports because of ice. And why is it that China needs to make artificial islands as naval staging areas? Your response is bland and lacking important facts.
Caleb Sullivan
>And why is it that China needs to make artificial islands as naval staging areas?
They're not making artificial islands as naval staging areas, they're making them so that they can make a territorial claim on the surrounding waters.
Grayson King
How quiet are their new SSNs?
I know they were always lagging,
Nathan Price
>just look at the fucking thing
So?
Dylan Clark
I like the way you think. Anybody know who she is?
Nicholas Hill
why do people feel the need to post like this
Ayden Jackson
>they were always lagging
Only according to bullshit american propaganda.
Tyler Gomez
>just look at the fucking thing.
yeah, but the thing works better than most amerixan choppers in the same class.
Justin Martin
so wait a min
you are saying that you cant take the russian navy seriously because the kamovs arent edgy piece of metals like the american ones?
Ryder Sanchez
IDK what he's talking about, naval Kamovs are aesthetic as fuck.
Josiah Collins
Brayden Davis
The Russian Navy is a threat, especially to it's own sailors.
Evan Bell
>All of them being in the Baltic, Black of Aegean seas
>Wtf is a map?
Literal imbecile.
Dominic Anderson
I was actually thinking of it in comparison to britain's Royal Naval wirrly-jig flying machines (or helicopters as you might know them), which are the best in the world.
James White
The fuck was posted?
Matthew Johnson
>the best in the world
There's only one utility helicopter and is doesn't share power.
Brayden Campbell
I feel like there was a missed opportunity for a Chinook-style tail door with an inverted V tail on either side...Coax doesn't require a tail rotor, why not take advantage?
Alexander Jones
Like a bigger Ka-26...
Jackson Evans
sauce?
Ryan Watson
Ka-25 and Ka-27 are both cute. From what I know they are underpowered though and not very reliable.
Nolan Evans
Like rest of the Russian military the equipment dedicated to the nuclear role is generally of decent quality while the rest is rather questionable.
Brayden Gonzalez
He’s not really moving goal posts, you’re just being a pedantic asshole. Anyone with sense would understand that, in the context of the discussion, he’s talking about useable coastline.
Camden Evans
do you know that even canada uses russian helicopters? those things are cheap just like your mom lmao.
Lucas Rodriguez
Because soviet desgins, not exactly innovative
Austin Baker
please do not bully the Ka-27, it is my copter-fu
Blake Murphy
A great looking black woman swimming with a 9/10 body, 10/10 face and nips that could cut diamonds.
Tyler Brooks
>just look at the fucking thing.
it's so cute omg
Jayden Martinez
Jesus Christ what happened to you Jow Forums? Are these boomers? Is this boomer posting or ironic boomerposting? Am I the one who's too old to get it?
Colton Turner
Noice, got the sauce, or at the very least the original webm?
Evan Long
Nah, forgot to save it.
Well, its in the spank bank for sure.
Jaxson Butler
Here is a hard one, as they are both awesome old beasts that have stood the test of time but, ka-27 vs SeaKing?
Cooper Ross
Sea King is gorgeous, one of my favourite helos of all time. Closely followed by the Super Stallion and Merlin, of course.
Christopher Hernandez
>It seems to me that half their tech is cold war era relics.
It is, and even that enough to blow away any fleet, except American. ASM on subs, ASM on ships, ASM on planes, ASM on helicopters, ASM on trucks, ASM everywhere and a couple of new satellites to provide targeting for them.
Adam Butler
Not a fair comparison.
The sea king is on another level. Possibly the greatest medium lift utility helicopter of all time.
look at this this
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Justin Wood
>greatest medium lift utility helicopter of all time
Jayden Brown
not even as good as the wessex, never mind the sea king.
though credit to the russians for making do with what they had.
Jonathan Long
Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.
Elijah Jones
The Soviets had a pretty gud navy in the 1970's/1980's. But of course, everything went downhill fast in the 1990's. Russia has never recovered and probably never will.
Zachary Sullivan
God, all that cluttered deck space looks retarded: the Soviet navy had frigates and cruisers chock full of missiles and guns, they should've gone CATOBAR and maximized use of tonnage
Oliver Anderson
The Soviet Navy had long-term plans for a very small number of large CVN's to protect their submarine bastions but they collapsed before they could get the ball rolling on that.
Elijah Lewis
I have an admiration for these little things.
Dominic Gray
Under the right conditions anything can be a credible threat user. Just because the Russian fleet is aging doesn't mean they can't hurt us if we're asleep at the switch.
David Reyes
Nice b8 m8
I rate it 8 out of 8
Noah Clark
>The Soviets had a pretty gud navy in the 1970's/1980's.
It was good on paper, but run poorly and held back by numerous personnel and maintenance issues. It was a fairly capable defensive force, but had serious problems.
Cameron Sanders
Soviet subs and naval aviation (where their bombers were assigned to) were good. On the surface, the USSR wasn't going to really match up to the US.
Jonathan Walker
>On the surface, the USSR wasn't going to really match up to the US.
And under it.
Daniel Morales
I don't see how American designs are edgy. THe ka-29 is a goofy looking helicopter but it works and thats really all that matters
Blake Rogers
Now that's a sexy picture.
Jack Myers
Depends how they use them and keep them updated and maintained. For example the B-52 is a classic aircraft by the US Air Force's own rules. "Join the US Air Force, Fly the Plane your Father did."
The 1911 Pistol, The C-130 Hercules aircraft (1954), M2 Browning .50-caliber machine gun(1933), CH-47 Chinook helicopter (1966), Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle (1948).
The M240 medium machine gun is from 1977, and It is essentially a slightly modded version of the FN MAG which was late 50's tech.
Xavier Cook
>Yak-38s on flight deck
[NATO sub trailing Kiev picks up sounds of Soviet pilot screaming]
Nolan Wilson
>[NATO sub trailed by Kiev picks up sounds of Soviet pilot screaming]
Ftfy.
Thomas Price
Picture from April 2018 from a military exercise in Morocco.
B-52 (First flew April 1952)
F-15 (First flew July 1972)
F-16 (First flew January 1974)
Lotta current stuff is actually pretty old hardware.
Austin Ramirez
Ka-25 looks goofy with that disproportional ballsack under the chin. Ka-27/29/31 all look great.
Jason Collins
they'll cause a nuclear winter, then wait the rest of us out. it worked against Hitler eh?
Camden Gonzalez
The original intent of this thread aside, why is it that so much Cold War stuff is so aesthetically pleasing?
Brody Morris
Are you two referring to a particular incident? Because if you are, I'd be interested in taking a listen.
Christian Miller
Because they had a mission and "dammit we are gonna make it work!" kinda engineering ruled. Function over form has a aesthetic of it's own. Cold War equipment is cool.
Nathaniel Nguyen
First post you replied to was just an image taken from a British sub that snuck up on the Kiev. As well as a general jab as Soviet Navy fighters of the time".
not sure what the second is referring to, maybe Kiev('s helo) got the jump on a NATO sub at one point?
Ryder Cook
Ah; I had been hoping, perhaps, that recordings from stuff like that had become a matter of public record, and were listenable somewhere. Always an uncanny feeling, listening to stuff like that. Like, Komarov's last transmission in space, and stuff.
Jayden Ortiz
>Like, Komarov's last transmission in space, and stuff.
Fuck. That.
What happened to him is nothing short of criminal and I wish more people knew his name. What's just as sad was Gagarin dying the next year anyway despite Komarov pretty much giving his life to save his friend's.
Brayden Hall
>Like, Komarov's last transmission in space
Sounds like fake urban legend.
Tyler Miller
the majority of the support helicopters of mother russia looks like this
tho i was luck in 2016 to see a mil 26 in when i was visiting greece in firefighting role
that thing is HUGE not to mention if you could hear it from light years ahead
Asher Stewart
>sea king
carries a lot more people
flies 120km/h faster
can carry a lot more missiles and or combos of them
have a longer range
ITS FUCKING SEXY
Luis Gonzalez
becasue their shit is good and it doesnt need constant redesigning like american scrap
Caleb Nguyen
only their submarines matter
Lucas Cook
they will have one in Syria as well
Eli Long
>will
They already do, but it's still behind the Bosphorus and abroad, meaning it can't be relied upon for the needs of the entire Black Sea Fleet. Vladivostok is the only semi-freezing port with free access to the world ocean due to Russia's ownership of the non-freezing south Kuril straights.
Carson Edwards
Can't hear an engine that's not running