Is vz61 the ideal home defense weapon?

I really want one of these. Although one with a stock would be way better. Doesn't seem like it's easy to change the sights without a grinder and welder.

>>need to thread the barrel yourself if you want to silence it
There are actually silencers for these. They don't take threading. I'm not sure how they function but they clip on without threading. It's rare to find info on these but sometimes there are threads and you can find out fun stuff like that if you ask the right questions.

>shit gun
>shit caliber
>everything about it is sub par or shitty
>no place to mount a light
it'll do the trick in a pinch but it's literally one of the worst firearms you could pick for that role.

Its actually joses that show up to home invasions with soft armor. Rap songs about bullet proof hoodies haven't caught on yet

Without full-auto, the Skorpion is just an oversized pistol. And it's not even that good at being a pistol; its magazine only holds three more rounds than a standard Glock, despite shooting a weaker round.

Semi-automatic civilian models of SMGs are range toys for people who think they look cool, not practical self defense weapons.

Tyrone has a groin doesn't he? Plenty of blood flow down there, not to mention that awful grinding feeling of a bullet riddled pelvis.

youtube.com/watch?v=VWlk1Y3bjZI&t=131s

if you're desperate enough to rob a randos house, you can't afford body armor. use your head my dude.

That's because there are laws about committing crimes while using body armor. If criminals could get it and use it they would. The only time they wouldn't is if they think it'll add too much time to their sentence.

What if they're targeting known gun owners? They go after stupid people like fudds who will use a shotgun or handgun, to steal thousands in guns and ammo, at the cost of a ballistic vest and a Hi Point.
Alternatively they're in it for rape or psychotic murder or cannibalistic purposes.

>despite shooting a weaker round
>muh 9mm stoppen powa

>"The gentleman that did get shot and was killed was wearing body armor,” Martin said. “That is a trend we are starting to see. The bad guys go in to do a robbery or home invasion and they have their body armor on."
>rrdailyherald.com/news/intruder-killed-despite-wearing-body-armor/article_83c410b8-2cad-11e1-95f8-0019bb2963f4.html
Maybe try not acting like an expert when you don't know what you're talking about? it's pretty easy to just ask for evidence instead. An old police surplus 2a vest can sometimes be had off armslist or craigslist for less than the average street cost of a handgun(aprx .300$). This is just the one that popped up on google first.

If your hit rate on a man sized target at 5 yards isn't at least 95% even at full stress, you should probably sell all your guns and just buy a flamethrower for self defense because this sport isn't for you.

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>huur dur I'm white jamal too dumb to buy 300 doll hair thing off internet white guy made internet white guy smart jamal dumb
>jamal doesn't understand risk vs reward he not white only white smart you all dumb not expert me smart
>jamal just steal because he jamal he doesn't understand what sort of prison sentence he's looking at and turning the situation into a murder suicide spree
>he get caught jamal dumb
How did you get through school without being columbined you dumb fuck?

The damage control is palpable. That isn't even anything close to a counterargument. You claimed that people don't use body armor in home invasions or robberies and that is demonstrably false.

Fuck off and die, aspie.

Right back at you you insufferable autistic fuckface

No you quoted two different people and assumed it was the same argument. After one conversation with you I really wonder how you didn't get bullied into suicide yet.

>If criminals could get it and use it they would.

>if you're desperate enough to rob a randos house, you can't afford body armor.

So which idiot were you?

>implying basketball americans don't love fortnite

That's interesting. Are they even available on the consumer market, or are they just an oddity that was made in the Czech Republic or some other Soviet satellite state decades ago?

Fun fact: North Korean spies have been known to arm themselves with silenced vz61s. One was found on the body of a frogman who washed up on a South Korean beach 20 years ago: sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1785 (see page 2)

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Angry NIGGER detected. How does it feel to be a nigger?

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As a cartographer, this map fucking sucks.

>>If criminals could get it and use it they would.
The only time they won't is because they think the penalties of getting caught are going to be worse.

Re-instating the death penalty and making it commonly known would reduce a lot of murder suicide things. Most people suicide because they don't want to get locked up tortured and abused for the rest of their lives. The abolition of the death penalty is what stops most of these people from being taken alive.
From what I've heard between news headlines and stuff is most skorpions ended up on the black market and probably either got warehoused or destroyed.
How does it feel to be a nigger? Well I guess since I'm too white to be black and still a nigger I guess it feels like I get to occupy this little space where I can see how fucking stupid you are and poke holes at it. Feels good man. Are you being dumb on purpose? I kind of feel like I should be doing better at life being much better than you despite being a nigger.

>From what I've heard between news headlines and stuff is most skorpions ended up on the black market and probably either got warehoused or destroyed.
Most pre-1991 Skorpions probably did, but Czech Small Arms is still making them today.

>not shooting him in the crotch
Generally not armoured and a great way to say hello

Is this a new meme or something?

FAGGOT LARPER

>shit gun
It's objectively well designed, well made and reliable.
>shit caliber
Which is why you dump several times more of them per second into the enemy.

Keep being mad nigger(lover).

go away nogunz

Doesn't stop the impact, just the penetration. Still will knock your shit out hard.

Also, what ape wears body armor to a home invasion?

>Also, what ape wears body armor to a home invasion?
Soft armor can be purchased online for under $300. Why take the chance?

why are scorpions so damn sexy?

Because you're thinking tactically. Tyrone is just thinking about that crack money.

it never stopped bothering me that they didnt put the mag in the grip, even on that insane angle, and give you a longer barrel.

Nope, but solid advice that can help you out in a fight. Advice from Grandpa Clint Smith.

youtube.com/watch?v=gE9qooFUqsk

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I'd say with a 30rd magazine, and actually being select-fire, it could be viable.
You just need a transferable Scorpion and for someone to invent a 30 round magazine.

Other improvements worth considering:
>Lehigh Cavitators, they improve penetration a lot.
>A silencer, .32ACP is subsonic, so that'd make the gun real easy to handle.
>Nightsights or a laser.
>A better stock of some sort.

You laugh, but we're essentially look at some small shotgun salvos, it's no powerhouse, but this would work better than you think, certainly with the right ammo selection.

This would probably be better.

Yes, do you know how easy the Vz61 is to control? Recoil is low, and the continuous impulse on full-auto is mild, with any kind of sensible two hand grip, a couple of long bursts are simple to keep on target.

I forgot we live in a videogame, I'm sorry.

>only holds 20 rounds

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>shitty caliber
Ball, harcast and Lehigh don't give a shit in any of the three calibers
>no place to mount a light
The railed models are literally cheaper than the standard models

And yet basic pistols are advocated as HD guns 1/3 of the time and sop across the board is to shoot until the threat stops no matter the caliber

Most guys that do breaking and entering aren't desperate. Its their job

>railed vz61
where?

How many of the people saying 7,65x17 is shit have been shot by a 7,65x17?

32 acp is fine.
Literally too rules you need to know though.
>Eurospec ammo or bust (Aguila is hot too)
>HP/expanding bullets a shit
There you go.

The Skorpion sucks, see:
youtube.com/watch?v=sAh1psa61nk

lol it was good in COD Black Ops at close range.

>shuddup nogunz heheh

Go away retard

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He's got a good point if you're drawing. The problem with this is; most people getting into a fight only one of them know it, and it's the one starting it. Otherwise I completely agree with that video. Generally thought it's just some ass hole with road rage doing that sort of thing wanting to get into a fist fight. Not some guy with body armor. You can watch the dinkheller tape and see how much use bodyarmor is.

>why did you shoot my client?
>your client was a threat to me
>why did you shoot my client in the crotch?
>I shot what was available to me

>good luck stopping tyrone
Shoot him in the dick.

>Lehigh Cavitators
Overpriced gimmick shit, FMJ does the same thing.
>A better stock
Pic related. Also you forgot removing the rate reducer, so it fires at over 1000 RPM. That would greatly increase its effectiveness.

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>>shit caliber
You DO realize that 00-buckshot is .32cal, don't you?

>Thinking buckshot is equivalent to 32 acp

He never said that, and .32 ACP is much more powerful than a 00 pellet.