556 is weak and ineffective

>556 is weak and ineffective
>7.62x39 is heavy and outdated
>545x39 is rare and banned by foreign import
>308 is heavy and relatively expensive
>6.5 is obscure and hasnt reached its golden hour
>6.8 ???

I just wish there was a perfect round in mass production. Getting real sick of this 556 retardation.

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>556 is weak and ineffective
Wrong.
>7.62x39 is heavy and outdated
Its the steel magazines that make it heavy. Use bakelite. Also its the most used and produced cartridge in the world
>545x39 is rare and banned by foreign import
Both wrong.
>308 is heavy and relatively expensive
Which is why intermediate cartridges are fielded to primary infantry
>6.5 is obscure and hasnt reached its golden hour
Getting more support, but until a military adopts it, it will stay how it is now
>6.8 ???
Not as good as 6.5 and ballistics arent good

>Use bakelite.

not using bakelite or ak103 magazines.


KEEP ME CLEAN KEEP ME CLEAN KEEP ME CLEAN IM ON COSMOLINE!!!!!! COSMO LEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNUHHHH

gtfo, fudd.

heavy 5.56 is fine. I'd rather have a 6 mm Hagar with longer OAL than 5.56 permits.

.243 Winchester

>556 is weak and ineffective
Stop using M855, shit like Mk.262 Mod 1, or Hornady V-Max is where it's fucking at, it'll give you good performance.

>7.62x39 is heavy and outdated
Stop using steel mags. Also ammo selection can do a lot for you here too, I imagine.

>545x39 is rare and banned by foreign import
No it isn't. 7N6 is, but steelcase 5.45mm is plentiful and cheap still.

>308 is heavy and relatively expensive
Eat your spinach, you bitch.

>6.5 is obscure and hasnt reached its golden hour
6.5mm what?

>6.8 ???
GAAAAAAY

Fucking disgusting. Neck yourself.

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.308 is older than 5.56 tho...

What does that have to do with the op

Nothing. I misread it lol. I thought OP said 5.56 was outdated.

Not going with .276 Pedersen was a mistake.

It would have been a really good cartridge, and it would have made the M1 an even better rifle than it already was, especially once they retrofitted them away from the Bang Trap.

But they just wouldn't be able to afford taking that step. It was like a tantalizing tease, a taste of the direction we would one day take.

.300 blackout

Good for CQB and silencers, but you get shorter range than 5.56/5.45mm

>is great in a short barrel
>is fantastic for a suppressor host
>average user does neither of these
it ends up being a 7.62x39 AR but subtracting the advantage of cheap ammo.

You're just one of those morons that think there's some "perfect" round out there.
Then when somebody makes your perfect 6.5x45, you'll find out that it has some trade-off like everything else, and yearn for someone to dump millions of dollars into developing 6.6x45 because that'll somehow fix all it's problems.

developing cartridges doesn't cost millions of dollars. hobbyists have done it and brought them to standardization. what's expensive is the investment to build stock so a cartridge isn't just neat but also commerically available.

>what's expensive is the investment to build stock so a cartridge isn't just neat but also commercially available.
That's what I mean. I think OP wants to find this shit in a store at a normal-ish price.

>.5 is obscure and hasnt reached its golden hour
>Getting more support, but until a military adopts it, it will stay how it is now

thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/22/first-military-6-5-grendel-rifle-zastava-m17-ak-dmr-revealed-serbian-army/

6.5 Grendel adopted for use by the Serbs

soldiersystems.net/2018/03/23/ussocom-adopts-6-5-cm/

USSOCOM approves 6.5 Creed for use.