It seems as though both gen 1 and gen 2 glocks have become extremely scarce in the last 3 years or so, not just in police trade-ins either. Is longevity to blame?
What Happened to All the Gen 1 and 2 Glocks?
Lincoln Lopez
Thomas Peterson
people want to keep em. gen2s are still available but gen1s have been collectors items for almost a decade now. as for posurp all gen 2s were surplused out decades ago
Hunter Howard
>Glocks
>collectors items
Josiah Roberts
They said that about 1911s once too.
Matthew Perez
1911s shoot better, have much more historical significance, actually look good, and aren't made out of a material that goes to shit after a few decades. I like Glocks but they weren't made to be heirlooms. If you think they look good you need your head examined.
Blake Campbell
>steel and aluminum decay slower than polymer
Mason Diaz
1911s killed Nazis
Isaac Martinez
>aren't made out of a material that goes to shit after a few decades
I don't particularly like Glocks either, but you should at least explain your chemical reasoning of why that is.
In a world where the degradation of chemically inert polymers in litter is a multi-million dollar industry, I sincerely doubt a polymer that is intentionally designed to withstand the elements will be useless in an arbitrary "few decades".
Charles Barnes
they're all over places like MA where you can't buy gen 3 and newer at a dealer.
Nicholas Richardson
They have all exploded
Evan Williams
Owen Peterson
Got my gen 2 a few months ago, it was a police trade in, as soon as I saw it I bought one. They were all sold out in a matter of hours.
William Davis
>he believes that zytel polyamides dont degrade with UV exposure.
The absolute fucking state of this board. Its like basic bitch science is far beyond your grasp.
Daniel Phillips
Ethan Thomas
Gay troll is gay
Caleb Bennett
everyone just kept them as a beater gun
Anthony Gomez
Who the fuck stores their glocks out on a rooftop year round you fucking moron
You keep a glock in a safe and it'll last a thousand years
Daniel Morgan
This. I have a cosmetically beat to shit Gen 2 I keep as my glove box gun. The trigger is well...a mushy glock trigger. But if someone breaks in and steals it...meh. I mean I don't just leave it in there but when I'm at work or traveling I toss it in my glove box.
Liam Baker
They never made that many gen 1 glocks in the first place and they usually got scrapped after cops beat the shit out of them. Gen 2 people are buying up because glockfags see them as potential collector's items
Gavin Hughes
No it won. All polymer materials lose dimensional integrity over time.
Since polymers used in pistols are absolute top of the line, it will be decades before it degrades, but no polymer pistol will ever be heirloom.
Most glocks will end up beater guns that will be deliberately abused as worthless things until a critical part breaks. Extractor for example. At that point people will simply throw them away or sell off to a dumb nigger kid for 50$ rather than repair them.
Sorry glock faggots, but only well maintained, all-metal guns, will ever be antiques or heirlooms.
Aiden Mitchell
>that spacing
find us all the glocks that have aged into uselessness, please.
Luke Thomas
And all metal oxidizes over time.
Since the metal used in pistols are absolute top of the line, it will be decades before it oxidizes, but no metal pistol will be heirloom.
>le reddit spacing
Most 1911s will end up beater guns that will be deliberately. Abused as worthless things until a critical part breaks. Metal extractor, for example. At that point people will simply throw them away or sell off to a dumb nigger kid for &50 rather than repair them.
>le reddit spacing
Sorry 1911 faggots, but only well maintained, all-plastic guns, will ever be antiques or heirlooms.
Jordan Carter
He’s being an over the top le ebic troll but he’s right. Polymer will degrade more than metal sooner
Easton Flores
Yes over hundreds of years, given the exact right conditions
Andrew Kelly
>exact right conditions
Or just structurally weakening in your safe
>hundreds of years
Possibly or like 30-50 years. It really depends on the polymer. Lots of theories but only time will tell
Gavin Smith
I'm not being troll at all. Firstly, i said it takes decades. Second, when dimensional changes start to occur, doesn't mean that the gun will instantly fall apart or stop working. But that time will come in your lifetime.
You poorfags simply have to accept that your PT Cruiser of the gun world will be forgotten and crushed in a dump yard. There are no heirloom PT cruisers and geo metros, and there will be no such value with glocks ether.
You've had your fun at the range based on james yeagers recommendation on what gun to buy, but that's it. You've had your 500 dollars worth. The ride ends, your peace of plastic has no historical significance other that the very concept of using polymer for a gun.
What is cleaning and oiling? Pic related faggot, built by Germans in 1597. Cant wait to see a 400 year old working Glock. Maybe you can convert your irrelevant toy to shoot airsoft BB's when it wont shoot 9mm anymore. Ps, its not reddit spacing. Its voat.co nationalist socialist master race spacing.
Dominic Morgan
>le reddit spacing
Dominic Baker
This came later than I expected.
Christian Ortiz
... Did a glock fuck your wife or something user?
Also not that user but pic related.
Nolan Perry
No, i just like dropping hard truths into the bottomless brian pits of pleb simpletons.
space
more space
could use a bit more
perfect
Voat.co Same as reddit but 100 times smaller and populated by Jow Forums nazis.
Noah Peterson
High grade gun polymers going to shit, particularly in a few decades, is a meme. Most of the *cheapest* plastics will still be around in a thousand years in a relatively intact state, but gun polymers were built to last, many millenia will pass. I guarantee when they're digging glocks out of the ruins of our cities in a thousand years. The steel will be all locked up and rusted away, but when they remove the dirt from the polymer portion, it will be virtually factory mint. Sure, the polymers are less resistent to extreme heat or being crushed (with thousands of pounds of pressure). But for any normal wear and tear of regular gun use and cleaning, they should remain in nearly a perfect state.
>1911 shoot better
No. Glocks are the reliability king, but you may have a point if you specifically meant the trigger.
>1911 looks better
well, no shit, Glocks are made to be a tool with fantastic ergonomics, it's far from the most stylish gun.
Ian Myers
Truth bombs?... you posted some weird anecdotes and opinions.
Someone mentioned UV degredation which applies to some polymers. Pistol frame materials are Nylon-6 has excellent resistance to UV due to stabilizer (2-3% carbon black) which virtually eliminates UV degradation.
I'm not a glock fanboy just please realize everything you said was opinion based or wrong...
Dylan Rodriguez
UV is not the only factor when it comes to polymers holding dimensions over time. 20 years from now not a single GEN2 will be available for sale due to nobody actually assigning any historic value to them and ether destroying them, or keeping them in a truck as a "defensive weapon worth 50$". Its just a pistol. Its not "the" pistol.
Jayden Murphy
Who cares about 'historic value', the gun works. It's not a talking point it's a fucking tool. 20 years from now it'll be the gen 7 and people will be talking about that.
>UV is not the only factor when it comes to polymers holding dimensions over time.
But it's the one that was in question. Metal frames are also subject to chemicals elements and accidents.
What experience do you have with pistols; do you own or use any? Are you just going off appearance? Where does this viscous disposition come from.
Cooper Edwards
you know the sell alloy frames for glocks, right?
Oliver Jackson
The Glock 17 is more historically significant than the 1911, and I say that as a JMB fanboy with three 1911's.
Nathaniel Lee
i double space paragraphs because its easier to read and edit on a phone, as well as keep my rambling bullshit more succinct
Hudson Brooks
Ah a phone poster
>it's easier to read
Not everyone has the cognitive abilities of a child user.
Jackson Diaz
>All polymer materials lose dimensional integrity over time.
Sure and environmental variables matter when gauging the timeframe of said degradation.
>it will be decades before it degrades
>decades
Like the previous poster said, decades of sitting on a roof. A polymer framed firearm sitting in a controlled environment will easily outlast a human lifespan with a much smaller portion of the firearm being disposed to oxidation degradation.
Liam Jones
It's been fun to watch the deadline for when Glock frames will spontaneously disintegrate slowly get pushed farther and farther up as the decades tick by. Originally they wouldn't last a decade, then twenty, then thirty. I'll be playing shuffleboard in a retirement home and someone will be telling me to sell my Glock because those shitty plastic guns only last 60-70 years.
Jeremiah Lee
OP only asked what happened to them but second poster claimed they are collectors items. Thread became a battle ground of steel pistol master race vs plastic faggot after that.
I own M57 TT and CZ75B. Not special or anything but non faggot tier memelock.
I hate all things plastic, not just guns.
Ian Collins
>The Glock 17 is more historically significant than the 1911, and I say that as a JMB fanboy with three 1911's.
No
Oliver Gomez
... so one post saying theyre collectors items spitballed into the main argument against it?
Also wait, who are you to say they're not collectible? The first generation of one of the most popular pistols on the face of the planet?
Caleb Parker
All the "no collector/historical value" in this thread reminds me of a time when people thought the same way about percussion revolvers -- if they weren't converted to cartridges, they were considered worthless, and often handed to kids as playthings.
If you think they were right, look up what a Colt 1860 with good original finish is worth today.
Adam Morgan
Nice opinion.
Chase Johnson
good shit. It's for shooting things and using, not siting in a case and being polished 8hrs a day
Cooper Cruz
He is right though, the Glock is going to be remembered in the annals of history on a higher pedestal than the 1911, simply as a matter of sales. The Glock is vastly more popular globally than the 1911 ever was, Glock pushed it on Hollywood and the American police to gain it widespread recognition that the 1911 never achieved.
You could argue that browning's tilting barrel design was more significant but normalfags don't care about the internal operations.
Eli Ross
Why do people act like hk plastic will last longer?
Chase Martin
>or just rusting away in your safe
>30-50 years
And yet nylon 66s aren't degrading into dust after 60 years....
Landon Hernandez
Police trade-in Gen 2's all wound up in the construction industry. That's where the old demo phrase "40 knocks 'em down" comes from.
Lucas Sanders
>He is right though, the Glock is going to be remembered in the annals of history on a higher pedestal than the 1911, simply as a matter of sales. The Glock is vastly more popular globally than the 1911 ever was, Glock pushed it on Hollywood and the American police to gain it widespread recognition that the 1911 never achieved
No
Christopher Gutierrez
That's how I view it. I rather lose it if some dumb ass breaks into my POS car I am driving til it dies. You know why I do that? Because unless you have a classic car, you drive that bitch until it's dead.
Dumb people buy a new vehicle every few years and wonder why they are broke as fuck despite making over 50k a year.
People put way too much stock in shit that doesn't matter. Glocks are made to shoot and be a workhorse pistol. You want a collector piece that has bragging rights? Go spend thousands on a Korth revolver and barely shoot the thing.
Logan Flores
Yes, your opinion does not matter. The 1911 has been dead for years.
The market is not being flooded with 1911s it is being flooded with polymer striker fired guns.
Bentley Morgan
Plenty of commies too
Isaiah Turner
You say that like it's a good thing, faggot.
Austin Foster
>another 'no' post with nothing to actually say
I'm not a fanboy of any weapon except maybe marlin 22s but holy shit please explain yourself instead of looking like a child.
Adam Cooper
nothing better than a car I paid cash for and will last me 20 years.
I still buy/build shit for the collection factor though when it comes to guns
Michael Hall
Doesn't take much to start an e-firefight on Jow Forums. Autism and all that.
Also the worst gun on the planet. Only thing glock ever had going of it was light weight. Fuckin hate plastik.
Lying faggot memer.
Parker Smith
The only thing your doing is posting bait tier opinions. You're a jackass with nothing to say.
John Johnson
Yep. I do too. Frankly because a car simply gets me to where I'm going and as long as it does so reliably and can save me money on gas, insurance, repairs, etc. all the better.
Guns are my hobby and I have pieces I will barely fire if at all because they're old as hell and I'd rather just have them in the collection. Other guns like the glocks, mossbergs, rugers, etc. get shot more often because they're not collector pieces, they're meant to be shot.
Nicholas Harris
Not that user but he wasn't arguing with you.
Levi Adams
Agreed. But I splurged and saved up while driving a shitbox for 5 years so could get a car with all the shit I use/want.
i'm trying my hardest not to start a project car because as fun as it would be that's an even more expensive hobby.
Parker Baker
Not every conversation here is an argument...
Jason Edwards
Glocks are like Honda Civics. Cheap, reliable, customizable but at the end of the day there are other guns that can do better than it. However...for the price you get a really decent pistol.
Nothing flashy, just a pistol that goes bang very reliably.
Hudson Moore
We weren't arguing....are you dense, retarded or just autistic?
I hear you, I'm doing the same thing right now. I drive a 2001 Saturn SL with 228k miles on her. She's going to die in a few years at the latest. Once that happens I'm scrapping her and buying a used car for a few grand.
Daniel Williams
It just seemed like you had an aggressive response like an argument with a 'matter of fact' kind of tone.
Adrian Rogers
2008 impreza outback sport. I love it. Not a $2k car but I can trust it for years.
>>>/leddit/
Evan Thompson
Never said they aren't Honda civic. But that always attract faggots who think its so much more. How much historic value do you think pic related has today. Yeah...same with glawk.
And glock was beaten at their own game by all their competitors as there better guns like that for the price or 100$ more. Guns that don't have awful plastic "combat sights" and the worst trigger on the planet, and an overall faggot toy feel.
They work, but they aren't remarkable. Maybe in 90's due to revolutionary low weight, but it means nothing today. Go away plastik man.
Logan Fisher
>trusting a Subaru for years
Lmaoing at ur life
Gabriel Cruz
I agree. I got mine real cheap because it's a gen2 police trade it. I swapped out the burnt out night sights with fresh ones for 70 bucks. It works just fine. I know what to expect out of a glock. A lot of people do not and think it's the end all be all. Looking at you, Nutnfancy. SHEEP DAWGS!!! DURR
Also...I would drive that dragon wagon for shits and giggles.
Brody James
>mfw have police trade in gen 1 19 with 1 confirmed nog kill
Josiah Baker
Found the pussy. I bet you pee sitting down to not offend others around you. Fag.
William Nguyen
>>>/leddit/
..... what?... I just explained why I assumed you were arguing in this argument of a thread.
>Maybe in 90's due to revolutionary low weight, but it means nothing today. Go away plastik man.
Homie. It's one of the most popular pistols on the planet. Your opinion means nothing.
Henry Sanders
You just sound like a faggot. I bet you think eye contact means someone is about to hurt you too. Are you a nigger or something?
Levi Lee
>he doesn't drive a dykemobile to hide his powerlevel
They only fuck up when you start screwing with the engine. stock ones get to 250k easy if you maintain it.
Andrew Moore
wot? you didn't have to respond to my explanation user. I didn't mean to trigger you like this.
Asher Gonzalez
Aaron Adams
Jesus you are such a fag, I hope a muzzy shoots up your queer club and you get killed. Faggot.
Tyler Moore
>You're a jackass with nothing to say.
That's the board motto. It didn't make it on to the Jow Forums banner last contest but had a solid showing.
example #2, Jow Forums knows less about cars than even /o/
Oliver Brown
Imagine being this triggered. Maybe stop being so mad and just think about what you want to say before you try to say it.
Ayden Campbell
>those vertical camera artifacts
why
Evan Wright
really old pic, really shit phone
Henry Sullivan
Gabriel Johnson
And this was the most popular song in a contest. youtube.com
And nigger rap is also extremely popular. So was Britney Spares. And the nigger manlet bruno mars. And just look at who to most popular gun tubers are. Fucking nigger noir.
If you don't see what i'm getting at...its the fact that "most popular" usually means "cheap and works" so plebs with no money, taste or knowledge buy it.
Lucas Fisher
makes sense
Robert Thomas
Guy doesn't even understand the gayman concept of blending in. Sheesh.
Brayden Robinson
I was gonna call you out for having no skills in making fashwave.
Michael Wood
I drive a 4x4 4runner and carry a gen4 glock 19. Reliability is all I care about man...
Cooper Powell
Look, you don't have to insult people. Extremely rude and honestly you just come off as unintelligent.
Dylan Watson
Julian Fisher
Do you know where you are?
Joseph Butler
No?
Adrian Thompson
Jaxon Ward
James Gonzalez
Yes.
Grayson Allen
Wow look at the circle posting jerks. Probably samefagging too to wear down my convictions. But unlike you I know what I'm talking about.
Isaac Wright
Adam Cooper
I feel like you're trying to overcome something.
Blake Perry
>Le fashwave
>Skills
'no'
Dylan Hughes
As a matter of fact they do.