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First topic: which is a better fighting knife? KA-Bar or Fairbairn-Sykes?
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Benjamin Adams
Jose Lee
Fairbairn for exclusively fightin but KA-Bar is better for everyday use. Also don’t get into a knife fight ever.
James Rodriguez
Fairbain Sykes. The Ka-Bar is meant to be an all around knife more than a fighter, Manufactures only call it a fighter to sell to idiots and idiots call it a fighter because they want to be something they arent.
Jace Carter
Fairbairn Sykes dagger is better at fighting, but not by a significant amount.
A common misconception is that the Fairbairn Sykes is a dedicated fighting knife. It can be used for fighting, but it was meant more for sneaky commando OSS shit rather than open combat. The WW2 Fairbairn knife design that you were meant to go to war with was the Smatchet.
>"The psychological reaction of any man, when he first takes the smatchet in his hand is full justification for its recommendation as a fighting weapon. He will immediately register all the essential qualities of good soldier - confidence, determination, and aggressiveness. Its balance, weight and killing power, with the point, edge or pommel, combined with the extremely simple training necessary to become efficient in its use, make it the ideal personal weapon for all those not armed with a rifle and bayonet."
Ayden Hughes
All in all a kukri would be my personal choice
Parker Cruz
Anyone know where I could get a next gen kabar?
Robert Scott
What are some good skinning knives?
Adam Gomez
nessmuk.
James Myers
Would a kabar work?
Dominic Jones
Finally got around to making my own scabbard for my the spike knife my uncle made me. Has a surprising amount of friction retention for being plastic.
Ian Russell
Kevin Collins
yes.
Dominic Wright
Skinning knives tend to be more curved, wider, and shorter to avoid puncturing skin. Doesn't really matter if you're just skinning durr though.
Adam Jenkins
I'd say "Melbourne weapons sweep", but there's an actual gun and no bike tire.
Hudson Brooks
Topkek that would be a “military grade arsenal” in bonglandistan
Owen Brown
Bit of a dumb question. One is a narrow dagger that performs poorly in slash attacks and was designed to kill people quietly as in when you get the jump on them. Means its design isnt actually for "fighting" just stabbing. Ka-bar will stab just fine and perform very well in slash and has a far better more hand filling handle not to mention balance and feel. That paired with the fact it functions in utility rolls a lot better than a dagger sort of puts it leagues ahead. Even the dude who made the sykes produced a new broader dagger later on that was broader so to be able to perform slashes better and do more damage when thrusting. A better question to discuss would be ka-bar vs a dagger like the cold steel taipan.
Brody Morales
Angel Hernandez
got this for 40 dollars
Carter Lopez
What's the best knife to stick on the end of an AR?
Jonathan Adams
This. FSK isn't a fighting knife you autists. It's meant to stab through multiple layers of clothing and in between ribs with surgical precision.
Kevin Brooks
Fairbairn for assassination, ka-bar for fightan.
Colton Johnson
>serrations
Ya dun goofed
James Brooks
Same. Good ”one tool” option.
Levi Barnes
Why would you even ask? The point on a a kabar will make you jam the flesh and cut something you didn't intend to. Course with enough practice you can skin with a damn straight razor.
Blake Green
its a survival knife...
Ethan Bailey
nice, but it's not a "one tool option". Karda exists for a reason.
Jaxson Edwards
Granted. Think of it as a whole package.
Cameron Moore
Ka-Bar. Fairbairn Sykes are great but were made for special uses, like taking out sentries silently. They have a weak point, the tang. On the other side, Ka Bar are solid, can be handled well, are quite heavy, and make a good non fancy option to fight. And finally, you can open cans and hammer nails with it, which is most probably the only thing you'll do with the knife anyway.
Kevin Sanders
>7" knife that can cut & thrust vs 7" knife that can only thrust
Kabar hands down, people only dickride the FS because memes. It's a fine dagger and all but it's one of those items where people throw logic out the window and start pretending that a sharpened bit of steel has magical properties.
Every time you post this I'm going to point out that several of those points are straight up lies.
Parker Fisher
>ka-bar
>strong tang
pick one
Ethan Phillips
Jaxon Rogers
No he doesn't. That video is about method of use not knife preference and that's why his story is about some fag getting rekt because he didn't have faith in the training.
Ryan Williams
>First topic: which is a better fighting knife? KA-Bar or Fairbairn-Sykes?
NR-40, hands down.
Ryder Watson
Fairbairn-Sykes
Julian Scott
Connor Harris
See this jimmy, this gos on the end of a 52 inch rifle. That's right and its another 24 inches and sawbacked. I can saw you to death from a distance. Nothing wrong with a few good serrations.
Noah King
Either then either
Joshua Peterson
Better than either
Carson Gonzalez
t. probably learned about it here recently from some other fag who also doesn't own one
Nicholas White
Nope.
>narrow handle
>fragile point
>impractical for any non-killing duty
Thomas Martin
Looking for AR bayonet with either wood or leather-wrapped grip. What buy?
Joshua Hernandez
No user that's a bayonet with serrations on it so that people who think a survival knife is anything other than a simple decent knife will buy it, serrations were added to the Gerber mk2 for pretty much the same reason. Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure Imperial made similar ones but current production M7s usually lack serrations because they never see use. If yours is a real Imperial it's probably got more use as a collectible than anything else.
Not him BTW.
Brody Hall
Looking for a survival knife and I was thinking about the Ontario air force knife on amazon. Only $40 and it looks sexy as fuck. Does anyone have any experience with it?
Noah Richardson
>using kabar for anything else than fighting.
user are you a badonny chob chob?
Levi Nelson
Day 2 of restoring my grandfathers old hunting knife and so far so good. Considering how much rust and blood of the innocent was caked on there I’m suppressed it already looks this good
Camden Barnes
do the RM still issue Fairbairn sykes knives to their troops or did they stop that, because i remember hearing that they still do...
Dylan Morales
M7, then take an M3 "fighting" knife and first finagle it's leather grip off and then finagle it onto the M7.
Luis Scott
I really wish I hadn't used this picture opportunity to limelight my hi point...
Adam Sullivan
I just got one of those. I haven't really put it through anything besides opening packages but I'm digging it so far
Cameron Evans
that modified m7 looks aesthetic as fuck desu.
Austin Ortiz
Eickhorn Solingen. Their version of an M3 trench knife with a modern (1960's) handle. They also have one with a more paractical crossguard, but it's impossible to find like new. The regular M7's an Eickhorn too, a somewhat rare model that doesn't have either Colt markings or a limited edition serial number. Very happy with it.
>yes, they're collector items and I don't use them
Eli Mitchell
Is there any cooler /ktg/uy than Pasquale Barra?
>killed 67 people, many of them were convicts of the same prison
>most of them were stabbed to death
>kept a switchblade in his anus
Dominic Watson
thats pretty sad desu. owning a knife you cant use. but still looks cool.
Jacob Hughes
What’s the tri bolted flathead machete and then the blade on the bottom?
Is the flathead practical for anything at all?
Cooper Howard
M7
Jonathan Walker
It is, but they're too pretty to use, in my opinion. So I got beater versions of both and play with them.
Alexander Ortiz
anyone know what this bayonet is? all the m7s ive seen have not had a leather handle. so could it be an experimental one or something?
Matthew Wright
forgot pic
Eli Lopez
Not him but: I would guess the spatula tip machete (that's what I know them as, there are other names) is a Tramontina or Imacasa, the extra steel at the back is to add weight in a way that keeps the profile of the blade, most notably the edge, straight and simple. The machete at the top follows a similar design principle. The blade at the bottom is mallninja chinkshit, pretty sure I've seen that user say he's going to do a destruction test soon.
That's probably an M4.
Ethan Stewart
i didnt think an m4 bayonet could fit on the m16 bayonet lug. guess i was wrong.
Nathaniel Rogers
Gavin Howard
Thus started the great /bg/ war
And it was a bloody war indeed
The KA-BAR tribe saw greater pursuits on the frontlines in close quarter combat, able to stab with a longer blade, and due to the wide variety, long-time encampment was no issue.
To the Fairbairn militia, however, better operations were carried out on surprise attacks on enemy positions. Able to quickly pierce armor and silently take out enemies, the Fairbairn Militia made quick, silent work of the KA-BAR tribes
Ultimately, however, the KA-BAR tribes were defeated after elongated times and weathered use riddled their precious handles fucked up, scratched up, molded, and unaesthetic, while the Fairbairn militia only faced the occasional broken tang. The KA-bar tribes looked to the Cutco sultanate of the east, only to be provided with a heavy polycarbon Ka-Bar with a front scope and every edge was serrated.
Such combat did not, however, affect the small pockets of machete communities throughout the war zone, all of which didn’t have the time or monetary value to be constantly wasting time with a knife that is overpriced and pathetic compared to the tools they already had. The machete tribes all looked at the other models as acceptable differentiations, and it was generally understood that the kukri tribe was above the rest.
Nathaniel Scott
Get the Schrade SCHF9
It’s $35 and pretty decent for any bushcraft/field work
Other than that, get a hatchet and a kukri machete
What you should look for in a survival knife is
>full tang
>carbon steel
>thicker blade
>polyester grip
Don’t think I’m really forgetting anything. Remember to buy for application, not aesthetics
Evan James
bu user that knife has a finger choli, only faggots use finger cholis, and im not a faggot.
not him btw
Connor Edwards
>Buying post-S&W Schrade
>Image from YT
John Lopez
What’s wrong with finger grooves? Improves gripping and as said before, it’s not about the aesthetic. Most knives that are truly good survival knives look like a basic ass knife that has no geometric aesthetic at all.
Jaxon Lopez
It’s a good fucking knife that doesn’t cost a leg and a bone like most KA-BAR survival knives do
Aaron Kelly
finger grooves? i got nothing against finger grooves. its the finger cholis i got an issue with.
Matthew Hernandez
So is the knife that user wants and is aesthetically pleased by.
Logan Evans
Having been in the ER when those knife fighting victims come in - it's fucking brutal. Gunshots are just a lot of making sure the mesentrery/colon makes it, but, a fucking knife slash? Can fucking be a Gen-, neuro-, and or Ortho problem.
Super fucked up.
That said, how's the Ontario Air force Survival knife as a genealogy purpose hikibg/outdoor knife? I use an opine no 8 in Walnut as my EDC knife
Camden Richardson
Can confirm. My godamned can opener broke while I was opening a can of baked beans for breakfast.
Remembered Snafu opening cans with his Kabar on the Pacific.
Sure as shit, cut open the can. Scratched up the painted on finish pretty good. But I don't care. I want it to show its weathering and use.
Austin Moore
>Ywn 'crank' your throwaway disposable war shiv around in the body of an enemy before snapping it off in him and drawing another from your webbing.
Nolan Adams
>>ka-bar
>>strong tang
>>pick one
I bought my Kabar in 1987. It lasted me though 10 yeas of hard field service, to include prying, an cutting open the banding on mortar round crates. It's a good knife.
Nathan Price
>First topic: which is a better fighting knife? KA-Bar or Fairbairn-Sykes?
Fairbairn-Sukes. How is this even a question?
John Nguyen
The Air Force Survival knife is specialized towards downed pilots. For the average person, it's got unnecessary features you probably won't use.
You can get a Mora Bushcraft for around $30-40.
The Rinaldi Forest Knife (pictured) is a bit on the large side for a hiking knife, but has a similar appearance to the Ontario Air Force Survival Knife while being more optimized for general outdoors use. It's only twenty dollars more expensive ($60).
Jacob Howard
Oh yeah you're right, that does look similar. I'll check it out, thanks user.
You say more optimized for outdoor use, do you primarily mean the aircraft saw on the back? What other things about it aren't suited for /out/ stuff?
Daniel Wood
What is this?
t.phone queer
Brody Mitchell
Read
Benjamin Myers
>But user could get a thing that I prefer!
Posts like this are a diamond dozen, miss me with that shit. Feel free to make suggestions to user and if user prefers either of those then that's his choice, I'm not going to turn around and tell him that the knife that he wants isn't good enough for most of the things that most people will do with a knife because frankly that's not true.
I'm pretty familiar with Rinaldi and Mora so I'm not going to disparage your recommendations but shipping from Baryonyx is probably going to add another $10+ to the price and that's when they get the thing back in stock which means waiting because they're probably the only game in town for that item (assuming he's American) because Baryonyx is the only place that I know of that regularly stocks anything more than Rinaldi's axes.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Chris Reeve Pacific
Josiah Collins
Adrian Barnes
>What other things about it aren't suited for /out/ stuff?
The large guard is only useful if you need to stab hard frequently, as on a fighting knife. On an outdoors knife, the big guard gets in the way more often than not for chores compared to a knife with a less obtrusive guard or no guard at all.
The lashing holes are one of those design-by-committee feature that rarely end up useful. If you have time to lash your knife to a stick, you probably have enough time to use your knife to carve the stick into a spear. That way you have a knife AND a spear and don't risk breaking or losing your knife if the stick breaks.
The aircraft saw is pretty obviously not useful if you're not a pilot.
Adam Torres
Basically this
Jace Johnson
>Puukko
>posts an Ahti leuku with ergonomised handle
Come on, fix this shit. For example, picrelated are Alexey Melnitsky's fancy puukkos, one of them with the Lappland-style handle.
>Rys
Actually, I've never seen Rys listed as the knife used by forces.
Unlike Kizlyar KO-1.
>Kukri
youtube.com
Justin Gonzalez
>kukri
>cheapass machete that's only similar in profile
Isaac Thomas
Awesome, thanks for the advice anons. I actually already have the schrade in pic related but I wanted something without the skinning tip and that I could throw around a bit more. I'll do a bit more research before I order anything.
Parker Butler
Bow before the Holy Grail of Ka-Bars; Union Cutlery red spacer, original template from which the USMC version was derived
John Hernandez
Thx
Xavier Turner
a fucking hipoint
Jason Russell
Thoughts on the Sliverax? Handled one recently and it felt surprisingly good. It's pretty interesting and i kinda want one
Julian Turner
It’s the only fucking ones I could find that were pngs
Fuck off
Camden Cook
That thing looks like it’s only good for stabbing shit. Pretty shit design for anything other than that and maybe on-the-spot skinning
Angel Mitchell
Spetznaz used the kys. I have one myself and it’s suprisingly a good all-round Knife. Has a nice partial double edge and full tang. Bit pricey but had my uncle buy one in Moldova (was like $50 over there) and shipped it to me.
Aiden Butler
>Spetznaz used the kys
Well, they could have, but I just haven't seen any.
My friend from Internal Troops who plays airshit, prefers Recon Tanto. Not for "muh fighting", but because it's a good all-around knife.
>full tang.
Either it's you who doesn't know what a full tang is, or it's me.
For example, Marttiini lynx 138 is not a full tang knife, as far as I understand the meaning. The tang goes through the handle and it's fixed inside with a rivet.
And german trench knives, like Boker, are full-tang.
Dominic Ortiz
Are all grails that pitted and rusty?
Brandon Cox
Bentley Gomez
According to this picture, Rys is not a full-tang. The tang is a stick that goes throut the handle to the handle nut (or whatever this thing is called).
Benjamin Morgan
Some models of the kys have a full tang, while others, usually have the intermediate between a rat tail and a full
Aiden Nguyen
Damn nigger got to it before I did
Landon Hernandez
>Stick tang mislabeled as rat tail
>Slab tang presented as the only full tang
Boy the internet really did a number on the nomenclature. Pic related is a rat tail tang, they're often thin rods poorly welded to the blade via a tang stub and even if they go all the way through the handle they aren't considered full tang. Stick tangs, as seen on the Kabar and similarly constructed blades, are considered full tang if they run the length of the handle. Slab tangs, where the tang runs the perimeter of the handle, are almost necessarily full tang knives but are not the only full tang knives.
I had a source for the definition of full tang from Peter Johnsson but the site's apparently gone, guess I'm actually going to have to buy his books now.