I'm looking for advice on buying my first lever action rifle...

I'm looking for advice on buying my first lever action rifle. My immediate want is Marlin Model 1895GBL for sweet 45-70 action, however rounds are almost a dollar a shot. Plus I want to go shooting with my gf when I take it out. What's a good level rifle that has good knockdown power for hunting/fucking around innawoods, yet also doesn't cost a fuck ton to crank off rounds at the range?

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I've heard newer Marlins don't have the quality they used to. Take this with a grain of salt, as I do not own a Marlin, though I heard this from someone who does regular cowboy action shooting.

.44 or .357 magnum fit those categories

I'm pretty sure marlin makes a .357/.38 special lever gun now. You can still hunt stuff with it but it might be cheaper to shoot and a little easier on the lady.

What's the QC issues if you know? As long as it's not rusting out the was I can work around an OK but not great trigger. I was gravitating towards Marlin because of the price. That said, I'm open to brand suggestions in addition to cartridge recommendation

I like .38 a lot. My model 10 S&W is one of my favourite pistols to shoot and carry, that said, do you think .44 would be that much recoil in a rifle?

Check out Henry's.
.45LC is about a dollar around also.

If you went with .357 you could also shoot .38 special for plinking. You could probably hunt deer with .357 but the range isn't as good as say a 30-30 or a 45-70.

Sometimes you gotta pay to play.

I find with the expensive calibers if you don't shoot them all the time and you buy a box of ammo with each pay check you'll stack up a pretty decent supply before you know it.

Perhaps consider r3load in ng as well.

Sorry for reddit format, it's easier to space out information this way.

The 1873 or 1876 could be fun. Think my dad has the 73, nice gun.

whatever you do make sure to get one that has a feed gate

trying to pop out the tube and load that way is absolute cancer

Reload for 45-70, i shoot a 405 for plinking at 1kfps for about $0.10 per bang.

why not the marlin 336?

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I'll look into Henry's. Honestly I've so far glossed over them. Like you and said for reloading, I'm really not in a position to do that. I live in an apartment in the burbs so I don't have the availability to reload. I usually use my flight benefits from my job to go hunting up north and practice at the outdoor range here at home.

Yeah, I definately have that as a "must have" feature.

I was entertaining the option of a bigger caliber simply for deer and the like.

Just want to say thanks for the info so far guys.

but marlin 336 is for deer, user. you just really want a caliber 45-70 dont you

>I'm looking for advice on buying my first lever action rifle. My immediate want is Marlin Model 1895GBL for sweet 45-70 action, however rounds are almost a dollar a shot. Plus I want to go shooting with my gf when I take it out. What's a good level rifle that has good knockdown power for hunting/fucking around innawoods, yet also doesn't cost a fuck ton to crank off rounds at the range?
Presuming you're not a poorfag, just buy the Marlin for hunting and also a Henry .22 for plinking with friends.

Otherwise, consider .30-30 or .357 Magnum.

I legit do. But I'm feeling that that's just me being obstinate and having a boner to Larp as teddy Roosevelt. I really do appriciate the suggestions I'm getting. The 357 option is sound, as is the 44. I'm gonna have to mull it all over.

Get a marlin or winchester in .357

Dont get 44, just cause shits almost as expensive as 45/70, and cost is an issue for you.

New winchesters are really good. And new marlins post 2012 are good to go. The shit marlins were from late 90s to 2011.

DO NOT GET A ROSSI

Get a henry if you dont care for the side gate, they are actually really nice.

Or if you wanna get into 243 or 308, henry has their long range rifle thats pretty good to shoot.

But since you want the gf to shoot, get the 357.

My next purchase is gonna be a Marlin 336 for hog and deer hunting, .30-30 doesnt kick all too much and overall is cheap

Lee classic loader, 45 dollars and whatever a plastic mallet costs,
If your fancy get a hand press or a lyman 310 tong tool

I've heard they've gotten better recently, especially in the past couple years

I have an old 336 and my gf has a brand new 1895g. I love the 336 but that kinda goes without saying. We've only taken the 45-70 out once but it's a really nice shooter. The Marlin trigger slop is there and it's a little annoying but you get used to it. FWIW I like Henry a lot, too. Every one I've shot/handled feels solid and their actions are super smooth.

Also, the apex fudd who runs the trading post in town swears by .35 rem as a durr cartridge but I have no personal experience with it and it's about as expensive as 45-70 anyway.

I picked up a 2017 Marlin 336W for a song. It has been good to go after maybe 30 inna woods outings. Supposedly the "bad" ones have plastic sights and plastic barrel bands?

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I detect a fellow memeber of the Unique/scrap lead gallery load master race.....

35Rem is great, but modern projectiles breathe a lotta new life into the cheaper 30-30. Unless you will be stalking Elk, 30-30 will do everything 35Rem will do. Even then, a stout hard cast 30-30 Ranch Dog will give full pass through on and elk from front to back. When energy isn't being spent tearing a rapidly expanding bullet into fragments, it can go towards penetration

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I need a .357 side gate lever action with around a 16" barrel. Discontinued Marlins are expensive and rare. That leaves Rossi. Why is everyone saying to avoid them??

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Will a Lee loader work for lever actions? It only neck sizes from what I see and some of the places that sell it only recommend it for bolt actions.

Forgive my ignorance, looking into a lever action myself in a rifle caliber and want to avoid paying factory ammo prices.

If you really want to hunt with it, get at least a .30-30. It's got better muzzle energy and external ballistics than a .44 or .45 LC, but costs less, is available everywhere, and has modest recoil. It is considered to be very reliable for deer, black bear, and feral pigs. .30-30 is actually very similar in performance to 7.62 soviet and effectively an intermediate .30 caliber cartridge before there were intermediate cartridges.

It's fine.
The lever will drive the round home.

It works just fine for mine,

I have a lever gun in .45colt and even loaded hot as fuck its super pleasant to shoot. that being said I'd go .357 over .44 just because .357 gets more benefit from a longer barrel than .44mag does.

>Why is everyone saying to avoid them??

So they can buy them for less monies themselves.

Can anybody recommend a good lever action in .22lr?

Would that be true for a pistol caliber lever action as well?
.357 seems like it will fit the bill for me

they've ironed out the kinks with freedom group. just don't buy one made between 2013 and 2016 and it should be fine.

Do you ever get bullet setback since you can't crimp your rounds? Have you checked?

>Can anybody recommend a good lever action in .22lr?
henryusa.com/rifles/lever-action-22-carbine-rifle/

Not if you like a durable tube magazine and a reciever not made of pot metal.

Rossi are junk, that's why.

Omfg, again >WHY???

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After Remington bought out Marlin, there have been many problems particularly with sight alignment and reliability. Remingshit is dying off anyway, so Marlin likely will as well. Henry has good lever guns that run for a fair price, but a common criticism of the rifles is that they don't have a loading gate. Winchester has very good, high quality rifles that posses a load gate, but these run pretty high for a lever gun. There are also some good Browning rifles, however the same thing goes for them as it does for Winchester.

I think it would work great, i have a lee loader for a 44mag and use it in my levergun as well with good results.

You can crimp, its hard to describe, basically you place the loaded round upsidedown inin the "funnel" portion of the die, place the decapping base on the base of the cartridge, and give it 2 or 3 gentle taps with a mallet, it actually works very well. m.youtube.com/watch?v=3duhNVjAu6E
Above demonstrates it about 1:55 in

Marlin is owned by freedom group like remshit is. Get a JM marked marlin or go Winchester if you want to keep it American. I’ve been looking at them and I haven’t seen any issues yet

Anyone have a recc for Henry lever action rifles? I also dont care for 22LR and would like something similar to what OP is looking for

They're not. Had one in 357 for years now and never so much as a hiccup with it. They're not expensive and they're not a gucci brand, so Jow Forums hipsters will shit on them.

Marlin seems to have unfucked the levergat production as of the past couple years. I have been finger fucking a 1895CBA at the local shot and it is a damn nice rifle. I think I'm going to get one as well as its new matching .357 little brother thats coming out this year.

Honestly, a Marlin 336 is a great levergun. .30-30 is a fun round. I'm actually selling my Winchester 94/sears 54 right now though.

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I really love the aesthetics of their stainless All-Weather rifles. For hunting, get the .30-30; for fun, get the .357 Magnum.

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Henry's are nice, but I only want a tube loading system on a .22. the golden boy is a hell of a fun but I already have a Marlin 39

Why are the Marlin 1894C's so nonexistent? I can find plenty of 1894s in any of the other calibers but when I look for the .357s they're never in stock anywhere. Is it just because the caliber is so much more in demand over .44 or .45?

They stopped making the .357 I thought

Not quite a lever gat question, but anybody have experience with the Rossi circuit judge? I have hard peepee syndrome for revolver long guns, and for .45LC but the stock on the circuit judge is kinda meh. Does anybody else make a decent revolver carbine?

marlin discontinued a shitload of models after the buyout

Well shit I didn't know that. They still offer it on their website along with all the other models.

The tooling for the .357s was worn to hell and gone before the freedom group buyout. They discontinued them, completely redid the machine line and announced the rerelease at shotshow this year. The new ones should be coming out soon.

You already posted the perfect gun, the 1860 Henry

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1866 Winchester is better

If you are in a washed out ravine in 1870 North Dakota then yes, however the 1860 is prettier and more fun to shoot at the range or plinking in the woods if you ask me.

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Aprently you can hunt a t-rex with this

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I wouldn't trust less than anti materiel on a rex. Allosaurus tho... prolly be able to take him down with the .45-70

Finger in front of the barrel. Boner ruined.

>That leaves Rossi. Why is everyone saying to avoid them??
Because they're owned by Taurus.

tfw no levergat gf

hit PrtScr on your keyboard next time you need to take a screenshot.

>Winchester
>American
They're rebranded Mirokus, senpai (not that it's a bad thing, they're just sure as shit not American)

The .30-30 has taken more Whitetail in NA than all other calibers. You should do far more research

Somewhat ironically the Marlin qc has gotten better since they became Remington's plaything

get a .357 lever action, cheaper and more fun to shoot

>go Winchester if you want to keep it America
Aren't Winchesters made in EU and japan?

>cheaper
the only options you have are henry which means no loading gate or rossi which is shit

you literally have to spend 1k for a decent quality .357 with a loading gate

>fingers over the muzzle of a locked gun

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Looks like it's alongside the muzzle to be candid, relation. Finger is touching the side of the barrel and toob but knuckle protruding above. Given that her hand and fingertip are both on the side away from the camera it'd be a neat trick to have her finger over the boom hole.

I could be wrong tho. Tough to tell all this angle.

>tfw you have to drive to cabelas or dicks to finger fuck lever actions

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