Was the Civil War really a civil war? By definition...

Was the Civil War really a civil war? By definition, a civil war must be between two or more factions of the same nation, but the Confederacy was a foreign nation. It was never formally recognized as such, but it was treated as such by all parties concerned.

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>the Confederacy was a foreign nation
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

One of the USA's first acts of war was to blockage the CSA. You don't blockade your own country. That would be absurd.

Also, Tennessee cast votes in the election of 1864, but the USA didn't count them, so they tacitly admitted the CSA was foreign.

>You don't cordon off lawbreakers. That would be absurd.
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well, here in the south our schools curriculum officially calls it "The war of northern aggression" so its not really taught as a civil war here :/

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Cordoning off criminals is one thing. Blockading an entire country is quite another. The Confederates were never arrested and tried as criminals. They were treated as foreign enemy soldiers throughout the whole war.

The CSA had a separate immigration process to the US sooooooooo

It was the same side of the country you big dummy. Join my discord

Also, "rebel states" is an oxymoron, since to be a rebel is, by definition, to defy the authority of the state.

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A citizen of a state may rebel against it, but to say that a state can rebel against a union of which it is a member would be to say that the state is in rebellion against itself, an obvious absurdity.

OP is correct it was not a civil war but a war of secession in which they lost

they formed their own states, stupid

They left the union, a better question is: was the USA a country after it won or when it declared independence?

Genuinely, I go with the definition that the CSA was a separate country. They left a voluntarily formed union where there was nothing to restrict it at the time. Lincoln just wanted War to keep them in, whether for economic gain or to show the USA is a strong country, who knows.

Here's a top tip to all you amateur legalese connoisseurs: law is simply a set of rules backed by force or the credible threat of force. Whoever wields the force gets the final say in what is or isn't legal. Whoever comes out on top in an armed confrontation gets to wield armed force. This is why the CSA were rebels, not freedom fighters, and this is why the judge will never accept your arcane admiralty law garbage as a valid defense.

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Should have made a single post but whatever....and this should be on /his/

I find it is called a civil war due to how Lincoln viewed it and made propaganda about. He called them states in rebellion (much like how the government viewed the colonial forces forming a state). Hence, a civil war. But from my previous post, this war is really best analyzed by seeing it as a war between two countries, as this helps why tensions brewed and how Lincoln was able to violate parts of the constitution on some instances.

As put it, you don't blockade your own country or tell other nations to stay out of the war, even going as far to free the slaves to virtue signal them to fuck off.

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>Was the Civil War really a civil war?
Kind of, it was the United States vs the confederate states

Yes it was a Civil War, you fucking moron. The Confederacy was a faction of the United States attempting to secede and become a different state. If they did win, it would have been a war of independence. They didn't win.

Do you know what the "Reb" part of Johnny Reb is short for?

They did secede though. The war started after SC declared independence.

That's a subset of this. If the cops can find you and overpower you, whatever law they enforce is what you're getting tried by. You're not gonna get them with a clever "gotcha" that logically invalidates their authority, somehow.

I don't think it was civil. Everyone was pretty mean to eachother.