I'm going to pick up an 1873 style lever action in .357 Magnum.
I'm torn on the exact model to get, it'll probably be a modified Uberti, either an Uberti, a Taylors & Co, or a Cimarron.
I'm torn between the exact model though, anyone have any thoughts? My first question is should I get an 18 or 20 inch barrel? I already have a 24" sporter, looking for something lighter and faster.
Cimarron has an 18" that should still hold 10 rounds, am I losing anything going so short?
"Let me get an old west rifle that isn't chambered in an old west cartridge"
Get an 1873 in 45-70, 20 inch barrel.
>1873
>.357 magnum
Get out of here, you anachronistic faggot.
To answer your question, velocity is not the concern. Sight radius is.
I'll eventually run it in CAS and almost no one shoots 45-70 in competition, top shooters will generally shoot .38 Spcl. The gun is mostly for fun.
Not concerned about velocity, but is the 2" site radius difference going to matter much? Might split it and go 19" for a carbine.
Don't give a fuck about being anarchronistic, already invested in .357 and have several guns chambered in .357 or .38
>Not concerned about velocity, but is the 2" site radius difference going to matter much? Might split it and go 19" for a carbine.
That depends on how good your vision is. In theory, sight radius has no effect on intrinsic accuracy. It just makes it easier for the shooter to aim.
No one cares. Most quality lever action rifles aren't even made in the US anymore.
Does Taylors & Co make their own guns or do they just sell Uberti and Chiappas?
They dont. I have a Taylor and co SAA and it is actually an Uberti. They just touch it up
I believe they're almost exclusively selling Uberti's, they are an importer and they fine tune them to their specs. But they will order changes, like the Taylor Smoke Wagon is an Uberti Cattleman that has a different hammer and some tuning and some work done to the grip.
thanks
Hurrrdurrrrduuuurrrr let’s get the ole 73 toggle link in 45-70 try 44-40 you dumb nigger
Since you already have a 24" (you lucky bastard) I'd make the decision solely on heft. Which feels more natural? That depends on the gun and your taste.
Any reason you're not going with a (Japanese) Winchester? IIRC Any barrel length less than 20 is going to result in a gun that has 9+1 capacity in .357 and 10+1 with .38 special.
Uberti has a version in .44 magnum if you want some shits and giggles, but you basically can't go wrong with any 1873 clone. They're amazing carbines and their price reflects that fact.
This.
It just broadens the margin of error for the shooter.
Id go with the "18.
Itll be a quicker, lighter rifle, with MINIMAL velocity changes.
Also fuck faggots who are shitting on your choice of .357
I want a .357 levergun too becasue of the versatility.
Half the faggots shilling for 45-70 probably dont even own a Winchester 94, probabaly some Marlin garbage 45-70 they LARP with.
>.45-70
>a rifle cartridge
>in an 1873
>the largest cartridge a 73 having been chambered in being .44 Magnum
>the toggle link not being able to handle such a powerful cartridge
Leave this place
Okay listen here idiot, because even the imbeciles correcting you are wrong. The 1873s action isn't built for strong cartridges. There is no and will NEVER be an 1873 in 45-70
The 1873 was in 44-40 which is a really low pressured black powder round. I know that to guys like you ... The... "I'm an experienced/knowledgeable firearm enthusiast because I just bought this wondernine a year ago" when ever you hear 44 you think it's 44 magnum or some big powerful round. But that's not the case.
The ones designed from Browning much after the 73, are capable of 45-70 due to their different action altogether. But the 1873 is not capable of 45-70
>44 magnum...
44-40 is NOWHERE near 44 mag
Half the faggots shilling for .45-70 are retarded, including you, considering there doesn't exist a 1873 in 45-70, the action doesn't allow for such a powerful cartridge.
Most people forego the Winchester because they're much more expensive than Marlin/Henry
And they're a bit more expensive than the Italians, not by much, but some people can't be bothered to save 100 to 300 more.
I agree with you that Winchesters offer the best quality out of all the lever gun makers today, and more than likely, ever.
Winchesters are produced at Miroku, and though it sounds weird getting a Winchester made in Japan (which hurts collectability purposes), it makes up for in quality tenfold. Miroku is an amazing gun maker known for their expensive luxury (or to be more fair, near luxury) firearms. Japanese hard work ethic and attention to detail, mixed with a high quality firearm maker such as Miroku, is a winning combination.
Evern the "Murrican made" fuds will tell you their Miroku Winchesters are better than their American made ones, even better than the pre-64s. A simple google/YouTube search will show comments expressing that very same sentiment.
There is no such thing as an 1873 in 45-70. The model 1873 was only chambered in pistol calibers. The model 1894 was the one chambered in rifle calibers.
Go for the 18". You will actually lose a little velocity with the 20" barrel with pistol rounds.
fuck you guy i want a lever in 357.
Is the steel barrel folded 1000 times though?
Fuck off, Uberti has a .44 Mag 1873 you drooling retard
The 1873 technically was chambered in rifle rounds since the .44-40 aka .44 Winchester Center Fire was designed for the rifle and only later used (begrudgingly) by Colt in its 1873 revolver.
But even as "real" rifle rounds the 1876 was chambered in long cartridges, though the action was too short for a .45-70.
Browning designed the 1886 as a straight upgrade, with a much stronger action and the ability to take longer rounds.
He did the same with the 1892; famously (and mostly anachronistically) used in basically every old western. It was stronger and lighter than the 1873, but chambered for the same rounds.
The 1894 is mostly iconic as the first rifle chambered in .30-30 but wasn't chambered in anything larger than a .38-55.