IAF commander: Israel first to use F-35 jet in combat

It's the standard, even the higher end of it, among democracies with freedom if press, but it's not a zero-bullshit truth either.
Now, the circumstances that forced Israel to stick to minimal lying is a subject worthy of a dedicated thesis work, but the tl:dr mostly focuses on the balance striken between the military censorship directory, a must for surviving in the ME, and freedom of press, a must for surviving as democracy. Specifically, it created a unique role: military reporter. Every major news outlet gets to define 1 out 2 reporters as military experts, and this grants them a "behind the scenes" access with in depth interviews/discussion with high ranking officers and other secret/sexy information- all in return of a good-willed cooperation (reasonable dose of self censorship). The "but" here, is the high court's ruling that reporters must publicly expose all grand lies by the military that they find, without loosing any of the mil-reporter privileges, unless the DOD can prove direct, hight level threat to national security as resolute of the publication. Over time, this has created a "just don't bullshit too much" working culture.

>Possibly the most seasoned air forces in the region
>Not raping with an above average stealth multirole.
Very possible and very efficient.

However does it mean the F-35 wasn't made for the U.S?
>inb4

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Fuck off neocon john

> However does it mean the F-35 wasn't made for the U.S?
It was made primarily for the US, and then for bunch of other allied countries. Israel, due to various reasons (technologic, politic, strategic and economic), was the first one to receive it outside the US (closely followed by Italy, iirc). Israel is the one country, other than the US, that bought the F35 practical, and not purely strategical, reasons- and thus was already the likeliest to make first operational use of it, especially when geographic circumstances are taken into account.
Israel also bought the F35 under unique conditions that allowed them to get, roughly speaking, only the plane's skeleton, so that they could replace (almost) the entire electronic package with domestic tech- which cuts them from the global connectivity process pushed by the F35 program, and in so saves them the time needed to integrate such a complex system. And that's before mentioning IAF's culture of pushing stuff to the edge, including how fast they can declare new toys operational.

So yea, nothing surprising in those news (maybe except the publication itself, but that's either PW or a marketing move), while the US gets someone to do live-fire testing for them.

combat tested and didnt fall out of the sky

russia shills btfo

Nonsense, Syrian Arab Army Glorious Air Defense Elites have already shot down over 19 kike-35's. All have been disguised as bird collisions and the wrecks disguised as large eagles nesting. I heard this from presstv and believe them, why would they lie?

Here we see the wreck of an F-35. My friend Mahmoud tells me you can clearly make out the fuselage in the bottom right. I believe him because why would he lie?

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This. I'm tired of fucking barely literate and extremely ignorant boomers on this board.

Monkey models

I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of the F-15's first kills and combat operations came from the Israelis.

>F35s have started replicating in the wild, as seen here with a new hatchling

Same, any boomer here can jump off a bridge for all I care. The quicker they're gone the better

>and here we can see the f-35 in its natural habitat
>a hatchling ca not fly for its engine will catch fire
>to the left we can see 2 Su-30's nesting
>we'll be seeing hatchlings within 15 days as the mother guards her eggs
>for the next 15 days the father will collect scraps to feed his mate and chick

Can*

cool it aspie :^)

>allowed them to get, roughly speaking, only the plane's skeleton, so that they could replace (almost) the entire electronic package with domestic tech
IIRC it was only the sensors. Everything else is the default F-35 equipment, they even had to work out a special deal for integration with Lockheed where they had to provide all their control software for Lockheed to properly write the code for the equipment to work on the plane.

>provide all their control software for Lockheed to properly write the code for the equipment to work on the plane.

I didnt know Lockheed gets access to the Israeli modifications too, pretty sweet set-up for both parties than.

Of course it is, everyone knows that Russia's all knowing and invincible air defenses would have shot down the F-35 because the F-35 is shit. The F-35 would even have fallen victim to Syrian Chinese quantum MANPADS

Did they say what they attacked with it?

No, only that they used it twice.

>who owns Lockheed

:^)

It may have been used in a "combat role" meaning it flew in hostile skies and attempted to drop a bomb but that doesn't indicate success. The first operational use of the F-117 was during Grenada and it failed in achieving the results expected of it. It was retooled and did amazing during the Persian Gulf War though. The F-35 needs flight time to work out the flaws, though I'm not really certain some of them can be sorted like the wide orbits because of the wing span and the small bomb loads. Worrying about the F-35 is pointless because the US is moving towards the LCAAT model and envisions swarms of drones piloted remotely rather than super expensive single pilot frames.

>The first operational use of the F-117 was during Grenada and it failed in achieving the results expected of it.

Gonna file this one under "things that never happened."