Swords I found

I don't know much about swords, that's why I'm here. But I do know that I found a sword cane.

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That looks like a Romanian Visiguard sword from the Udan era.

They weren't made for anything other than ceremonial reasons but do have a +5 bleeding ability so that's nice.

Some shitty Bud K wall hanger likely from some fantasy story that only half a dozen neckbeards have ever even heard of.

Cheap (or at least cheaply made) wallhangers. Calling them swords is to be very generous with the word.

Okay. A relative of mine (who I'm not in contact with) left them here when he moved out and hasn't asked for them back.

That's very helpful.

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There's also this cheap thing that he made using furniture parts and electrical tape. Not sure what to do with it.

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Well.. looks like mall ninja shit. Looks one handed. Idk how well that pommel guard would work. That little stub at the bottom is meant to drive into somebody's noggin preferably but it looks like it might fall off if it hit anything hard. The blade with that little flair looks pretty gay too. I'd probably bring it to d&d parties.

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Thinking of selling it, actually. I don't do D&D.

Look up and contact Will Keith, he does a lot of excellent sword reviews on YouTube.

Looks like a cheap ass wall hanger

Include a copy of pic related and sell it to somebody on /v/ or Jow Forums

MY GOD! HE'S FOUND EXCALIBUR!

Right. Pic related.

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A take on the Barnabas Collins sword cane from Dark Shadows.

no, he hasn't posted any pictures of swords. THIS is a sword.

OP's image is a chinese shittimantium turd that never had anything in common with an actual blade.

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>found
Give it back Tyrone!

Missed the joke

>chinese shittimantium
umm... excuse me! it's actually pure chinesium folded one mirrion times!

with a +5 cringe enchantment no less...

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You pay for what you get.
youtube.com/watch?v=2kFgeZtkAb8

>just the tip

kek

Well at least we know its effective at hurting people

Are you that same nigger lifeguard who kept posting those shitty chinesium flea market tier knives and bragging about how some retarded fucking boomer was offloading them onto you?

Congrats, you have a worthless fantasy toy that was sold at some kind of gift shop.

What a waste of good digits

worthless modern decorative items, I would not even pay you a dollar for them

Tbh your best bet would be to trade it for some weed from a dumbass

Is it full tang? If so it's moderately less dumb as fuck but still really gay.
THAT is some straight up faggot shit.

they are both recently made purely decorative and have zero worth. put them on egay and count yourself luck if you get more than a dollar from someone who wants a cheesy porn movie prop

Yeah bro, I gotchu.

I just called up my friend who is an export in swords. He says to tell you that in his expert opinion that shit is all "mad gay". Actually he said "MAD GAY", he told me to make sure to capitalize it like that.

to my eye equally garbage but possibly more offensively fake and least the OPs china shit is not a modern made insult to real historical artefacts whereas these are more an instrument of fraud for some poor sucker to get scammed with

>curved sword

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Looks like FFBF swords. They make all kinds of stuff like this. It's pretty much geared to their target market and all have a decent value if you find the right value.

nah that's just another hideous modern reproduction, just as awful just a different shape. Funny how you people try and discriminate between one mass produced worthless piece of new made junk and another

Wasn't me, though I can now see why you'd think that.

Anyone else actually have a period sword?

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ah, mr fake and gay i presume? how have you been? Still living under the delusion that a properly forged sword is not "real", because it wasn't made 600 years ago?

A reproduction is still a real sword. As long as it is forged and tempered, it's just as real as the antiques you're so fond of. And usually of much higher quality.

Fukn Gamers

>muh cavalry weapon
>muh charge
>muh barbed wire and machineguns

what a waste of trips

Not the most distant of periods, but a few. Picking them out from amongst the modern repros will be an exercise for the reader I guess.

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Looks pointy. Don't poke yourself, OP.

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The ricasso's rectangular crossection between the start of the edges and the crossguard is a dead give away that this is some cheap wall-hanger.
You can tell that the blade was cut and ground from sheets of stainless steel, not forged.
Probably has a welded rat-tail-tang, too.
Do not try to swing it!

Haven't I met you in Hamburg earlier this year?

From the bottom: Number 1, 4 (right kukri), 5, the far left one, and the puuko. Those are genuine as in not reproductions. Can's speak for the most esoteric ones either way.

To the best of my knowledge I've never been to Germany, so that seems unlikely.

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Oh, and number 2. But it maybe 100-120 years old at most.

>Any Jow Forumsommandos who can tell me something about these swords?
They are cheap as fuck and fake.

Well, if someone actually did go for the exercise I guess I should provide the answers.

1: Bhutanese sword, probably 18th-19th century.
2-4 modern
5: Keris from Java, authentic though probably not terribly old, the tradition is still alive
6: Your plain old northern Swedish knife (maker lived in Kiruna, dunno if he's still alive), turn of the millennium.
7-9 modern
10: Swedish cavalry trooper's sabre m/1847
11: Swedish sabre, probably for Stockholm's police, mid 19th century.
12: Swedish infantry trooper's fascine knife m/1848
13: Swedish army sergeant's sabre m/1899
14: Swedish navy cutlass m/1849 (same design as the British P1804)
15: Kukri, probably arse end of the 20th century, your basic everyday one tarted up a bit.
16: Maasai seme, fifties or sixties, significant hollow grind suggests it's a fighting one.
17: South-east Asian frankenthing. Laminated blade though.

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Nice themed collection then. The police saber is the nicest one imo. But I suspect the cavalry saber set you back more.

> (You)
>Well, if someone actually did go for the exercise I guess I should provide the answers.
Don't quote me tripfag Op's image is fake and fucking gay. It has anime markings all over it. An no one wants to play your gay little look and guess what I own games faggot.

WE

A bit, yes, though I also got the scabbard with it.

Mislinked, meant to get the one above yours.

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>Mislinked
Then I somewhat apologize for reeeeing.

Looks like someone sharpend that thing way too often.

Helluva tip heavy design. When was it phased out? IIRC correctly Sweden had horse cavalry up to WW2.

Thats the soul calibur user, it is a cursed sword who's twin; the equally cursed soul edge, will eventually seek out to destroy in a tale of swords and souls.

I'd turn it into the police.

>Helluva tip heavy design
Not really. There's enough distal taper in it that the widening out by the cutting part doesn't really get anything to say about it. A good rule of thumb is that a profile shot like that barely says anything about weight or balance, due to how much difference the thickness can make.

>When was it phased out?
Looking at the phase-in first, the m/1847 is nearly identical to the m/1842, so that's where the cavalry started using these "demi-leafblades". The next sabre to come along was the far more conventional m/1854 (pic). Heck knows how long it took to completely replace the m/1847, the '54 would keep getting minor changes to its scabbard starting in 1868 and going all the way until 1912 (pic shows the last style) but the '47 doesn't appear to have gotten any whatsoever.

After the '54 we have the near identical m/1864, and then there's the m/1867 that used an identical blade but a new guard, and finally the m/1893 that kept the '67 guard and went with a straight, double edged blade. These also got the relevant scabbard upgrades as required to stay in fashion (so the -93 only needed the 1912 one). The m/1893-12 variant is technically still in use, though only ceremonially such (you can do a GIS for beridna högvakten). I don't know when exactly they gave up on fighting with them, but I'd guess WW1 or soon thereafter.

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I have a vague memory of seeing a Swedish movie filmed during ww2 that featured Swedish horse cavalry but now I think of it the story may well have been set earlier.

These are nice blades. I don't often set foot in Swedish antique stores but I will keep any eye up for these. Most of my collection are replicas or in various states of repair or restoration; the closest I get to your stuff is a Norwegian M1888 cavalry saber that needs assembly and fitting. Just another half forgotten project, sadly.

The first kill scored by the British in WW1 was with a heavy cavalry sword.

And war is not decided by the first kill, but the last.

I'm gonna take my sword with me into the Space Force. Jack Churchill on Mars.

WAZ

KUNGZ

You could show Mr. Fake and Gay a modern Albion sword made with such quality, consistency and beauty, that medieval swordsmiths would think it was witchcraft...and he would still say it's not a real sword.

Pic related is my only option for home defense. Made of mass produced high carbon spring steel using modern methods, designed by a machinist, assembled to spec in China. Rock solid with excellent balance, and for tactical reasons it's been DIY sharpened way past proper "sword sharpness" with a belt sander. Only $350. Just like an original made in the 1300's, it would delimb and exsanguinate any home invading dindu/Saracen in very short order. If I had to complain, some minor compromises were made to allow for mass production, a little more distal taper would move the point of balance even closer to the cross guard than it already is.

All it is, is a 2018 mass produced analogue of what was being mass produced back in the 1300's using the inferior "old ways" of spamming this shit out by the thousands....but it hasn't been rendered useless after rusting in a meadow or languishing in a display case for centuries, so it isn't a real sword.

Poppycock.

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>nigger lifeguard with six gorillion blades
How many layers of irony are we on?

Its actually a good thing that people like you are pissing your money away.

>worthless modern decorative items, I listed at auction as 'reproduction' 'style' sword object just like OPs piece of crap

The only defence these reproduction objects have for existing is that they keep retards away from valuable swords. That's you, you're the retard.

How is that guy pissing his money away?

Hey KM, another tripfag was looking for you with a question about a weird helmet.

$350 is a pretty good value, when you consider the alternative is getting my wife and daughters rape kits at the police station, and then AIDS tests, morning after pills, and a lifetime of counseling.

Value can be situational. A historical sword would be something of a white elephant in my context: too expensive to sharpen and practice with, while also of uncertain reliability. A well made modern sword is perfect in this instance.

Or, you know, peopld who want a FUNCTIONAL sword, not one that has been rendered useless by centuries of rusting away somwhere.

You know what's not a real sword? An alluminum stage prop. But a modern reproduction? Made from spring steel, properly tempered is a real sword. It might not be an 'original' historical sword, but that doesn't make it any less real.

Thd only difference is "collectof value" of the antique, which is completely irrelevant to the function of the sword, despite your autistic screeching.

I think the autist meant to suggest that spending money on a functional, brand new sword, instead of blowing it on an antique wall hanger is a waste...

>peopld who want a FUNCTIONAL sword
>the autist

>blowing money on a piece of furniture to tell people you have a "real" sword
>not autistic

Pick one. Face it, retard, a modern reproduction of a sword, made to spec from modern steel, and properly tempered IS a real sword, and no amount of your denial will change that.

Having collector's value does not make a sword any more functional. 300 yeaŕs of neglect, however, does make it less functional.

And all hatred for the katana aside, that's a sword that's been made continuously to this day. Do you mean to suggest that 14th generation swordsmiths in the land of the rising sun are not making real swords? Then kindly point out how, and when, the same object, continuously made, stopped being real.

here's a clip of Tobias Capwell (Curator at the Wallace collection) talking about two modern reproduction swords.
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Note that he's using the term "real sword" in regards to historic pieces, which I wouldn't necessarily agree with ("authentic" is the word I'd use, since a reproduction sword is still a "real" sword in my book, as long as it's not a prop).

I guess the only caveat, when it comes to reproductions, is that authentic, museum pieces, are guaranteed to have the correct dimensions and balance, which not all reproductions have.

Take reenactment weapons (using the term "weapon" loosely) for example. What we do, is a performance - full contact stage fight if you will.
What we call "practical" swords, are made for impact, rather than cutting. And because they are blunt, the blade is heavier (that's why historically, practice longswords were narrow - to keep the weight down despite having a thicker, blunt edge). If you make a sword with the correct blade length, and width, but a 2mm thick edge, you either have to make the fuller excessive (which gives you a weird shape), or it's going to be heavier, and then you have to make the pommel and guard heavier (usually by making them thicker), and that makes the sword heavier again (a reenactment sword can put on up to 300 grams in this way if you want to keep the balance correct).

Another problem, especially with viking period reproduction swords, is that they tend to have oversized grips (i'll explain that in the next post).

Bottom line is, that however archaic, a modern sword is still a "real" weapon. Only problem is that since they're not used anymore, outside of reenactment and practice, we have forgotten how to make them "the right way" (but we're getting better at it).

On the subject of "viking" repros having oversized grips (pic related). The problem here is twofold. First, reenactors use the next best thing to hockey gloves during performance. Reenactment, in general, is a whole new can of worms i'm not going to open right now, unless you want a more complete explanation.

Second, when using a type H hilt, it's really awkward to swing, unless you know how (actors don't), so using a longer hilt solves that problem. Which is stupid, because it changes the handling of the sword.

Also, consider that swords (sabers to be exact) were used in combat as recently as WWII (in 1939, cavalry with sabers was still a thing) - that's as modern as it gets, and having the same weapon made 70 years later is no different, than having an exact replica of a medieval sword made 800 years later.

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Would those crazy Air Force swords be effective in low gravity?

what air force swords?

Sword thread? I got this sword and sheath from a family member. It's an original from the Salampasu tribe in the Kongo. Don't know where the mask is from though.

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Literally looks like an orcish blade

Orks, nignogs, what's the difference?

still looks like a cool sword.

Looks like an Air Force piece.

How much did #12 cost?

>Only problem is that since they're not used anymore

After a very strange bump in the night a couple weeks ago, I had to clear my house armed with an Oakeshott type XIV arming sword and buckler. It's amazing how your heart pounds when your only defense is a sharpened piece of steel, and you think you're about to cut someone to pieces.

Swords are very much still in use today.

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I meant on a regular basis. Thery are not the "standard issue" ghey usdx to be, and some 20 years ago, according to Capwell, the feel, and balance of modern repfos was completely off. Something old smiths did instinctively.