What exactly is the Space Force going to be used for? What will Space Force do in peacetime? What about wartime...

What exactly is the Space Force going to be used for? What will Space Force do in peacetime? What about wartime? Will we be battling ayyys?

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The Space Force is taking over the job of a single Air Force MAJCOM that nobody wanted to be made into a MAJCOM, since there's so little work to do it could be handled at squadron level just fine.

A whiny little ex-Navy faggot introduced the Space Force initially as a form of revenge against the rising cost of the F-35 program, the mindset being that if the Air Force was saddled with an entirely superfluous sub-branch like the Navy is saddled with the Marines, than they will never have the funding necessary to compete with Navy Aviation again.

So that's pretty much it; an entire branch doing the job of a MAJCOM that's 85% civilian contractors that are doing a squadron's level of work. What is the squadron level of work?

Babysitting satellites and making minute adjustments to their flight paths to avoid debris and other satellites.

We will build a fleet of deathstars and proceed to blow up the earth after extracting all american territory on floating-continent ships with its hordes of un-american filth and rampage across the galaxy in search of more solar clay to 'liberate'

They will be a political red herring do distract voters from real issues.

Fuck off.

Yes, because there's no possibility that the role of a space branch will ever expand to include more operations and personnel.
Especially not with rival nations trying to rapidly expand their own.

>Let's make a branch that will not be feasible for another 30-50 years.

It's a ploy to get the biggest American industry into space so we can live in starwars

1. Combining all the separate branches' satellite programs together into one branch
2. Monitor the satellites and secretly spy on other countries
3. Monitor the satellites and secretly spy on other countries
4. 500 years from now/ never

>1. Combining all the separate branches' satellite programs together into one branch

Categorically false, it's literally only the USAF sat program

That's the point. Get the infrastructure laid down so that in 30-50 years time its an easier transition into a large scale operation. I'm hoping they turn it into a NASA on steroids, roll NASA into it and use military funding to really restart space exploration.

The Navy has their own one

LOL Air Force got fucked and is pissed
>The Space Force is taking over the job of a single Air Force MAJCOM
Making it a branch broadens its opportunity for growth.

The Navy has proven it can focus on multiple mission types. The USAF has proven it can't. Let it focus on fighters and bombers.

Probably serving the interests of Israel.

This, whenever the AF had cost overruns on their air operations, they ate into their space budget. A big no-no that has the potential of making blindspots. Now, the budgets will be separate.

>compete with Navy Aviation again.
They lost that fight a long time ago. It was only cemented more when they got rid of all their own attack EW aircraft and have to lease/borrow from the Navy.

>Air Force
>Is it safe to come out yet?
Pick two

Space Debris cleanup.

Roll the Air Force back into the Army again

stopping pajeet half-developed nations from putting to much garbage into space

Pre emptive anti satellite and satellite defense measures in general in the event of a war.

Global real time image network

Fight ayyliums and sheet.

They still have satellites in space you fucking moron, what are we gonna do? Just leave a multi-million dollar piece of equipment to fly aimlessly in space?

>What exactly is the Space Force going to be used for?
Tax siphoning into jewish pockets. You'll get some crude patriotic TV specials to make you forget about that, though.

Hopefully this
youtube.com/watch?v=yzXx8MiHV9g

97% sensing and GPS maintenance
2% astronaut time on ISS and other platforms
1% jockeying flying saucers

>roll NASA into it
No.
NASA is and must remain a civilian space agency. There is plenty of room for a military branch and a separate civilian agency. Eventually there will need to be a better solution on the policy and regulation fronts, too.

>Roll the Air Force back into the Army again

No, roll their fatasses into the nearest dumpster

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>What exactly is the Space Force going to be used for?
Sending American boys to die for the Space Jews.
>What will Space Force do in peacetime?
March around on the moon singing stupid songs.
>What about wartime? Will we be battling ayyys?
We'll be battling Space ISIS.

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>benefits: who cares, you're going to space

Edgy

>The Navy has proven it can focus on multiple mission types. The USAF has proven it can't.
whenever the AF had cost overruns on their air operations, they ate into their space budget
> It was only cemented more when they got rid of all their own attack EW aircraft and have to lease/borrow from the Navy.


Where do you idiots read this garbage?

Same thing the US space command is for.
Russia, China, and even France all have space forces
In fact the US Space Command is a space force, just in the same way the USAAF was an air force before the USAF was formed.
Did people lose their shit like this when the RAF was created?

Also this

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Nothing. The DoD will drag its feet until Trump is removed or otherwise handicapped. He doesn't even have the authority to create a "Space Force"; it'll require an act of Congress and they've repeatedly shit all over the idea.

>What exactly is the Space Force going to be used for?
Fleecing money from idiot taxpayers.

>They will be a political red herring do distract voters from real issues.
This.
We should give all that SF budget to ICE who are the only branch of gov defending the US from a FUCKING INVASION that's HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!

The last World War proved the value of air superiority. The next will prove the value of Low Earth Orbit (LEO) superiority. When SCRAMjet fighters can reach LEO and re-enter at Mach 6, travelling from Beijing to New York in just 3 hours... that's a military game changer.

When we can snatch small meteorites and target them at cities for use as high energy kinetic weapons of mass destruction, that's a huge threat. When countries can go to space to put mining claims on near by asteroids worth literally trillions of dollars in precious metals, fresh water, and diamond, we need to address that and get on it first.

Countries that don't have space forces in the 21st century will be as dead and irrelevant as countries without navies in the 17th century. Just ask all of the ghosts in the crater that used to be Moscow when one of our private mining companies "accidentally" drops a mining asteroid on Russia. Can't blame us, it wasn't a weapon technically by current definitions and it was just an industrial accident. Oops so sorry. Won't miss you.

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Seriously how did he not get held back at fat camp?
He's a PFC, that means he had to gain that back like a year after boot camp at the least

>Implying there aren't a handful of fat guys in every branch

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He probably got injured, put on meds that fucked his metabolism, while on a dead man profile for a while while eating the same chow as everyone else.

Yeah, keep Starfleet and MACO separate.

Marine fat guys are able to pull their weight. Literally.

Abducting ayy waifus

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got any more?

But... Vaccuum cleaners wouldn't work in space??
Is that the joke or is the artist an autist

>to really restart space exploration
Space exploration is and has been moving along steadily for decades, thanks to the rovers.
Ironically, the first job to lose to automation was not the field worker, or the truck driver, or even the data entry slaves or accountants.
It was the Astronaut.
Why would we need to send a man to another star if we could just send an entire moving laboratory on a rocket?

>in the background, nobody bothers to tell user that he is in fact the autist for laser-focusing on irrelevant pedantic details instead of the joke that the comic was intended to convey

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>When we can snatch small meteorites and target them at cities for use as high energy kinetic weapons of mass destruction, that's a huge threat
For the effort that requires, it's cheaper and stealthier to just use existing ICBMs.
>Countries that don't have space forces in the 21st century will be as dead and irrelevant as countries without navies in the 17th century. Just ask all of the ghosts in the crater that used to be Moscow when one of our private mining companies "accidentally" drops a mining asteroid on Russia. Can't blame us, it wasn't a weapon technically by current definitions and it was just an industrial accident. Oops so sorry. Won't miss you.
The rest of the world won't accept this even from the U.S. But nice fantasy

>won't accept it
Everybody accepted that some Arab motherfuckers slammed some planes into some fucking buildings.

space force sounds like a slightly superior version of the chinese plassf

the chink air force got pissed too when the plassf was created. the commies in charge told them they can have space back when there are space fighters. the air force is still mad.

shhh, adults are talking

>NASA is and must remain a civilian space agency.
What? Most of what NASA does is research for military projects. There rocket tech played a big part in ICBM development. Well, they used too... No they don't do shit now.

He's right.

>We should give all that SF budget to ICE who are the only branch of gov defending the US from a FUCKING INVASION that's HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!

This but unironically.

>Imaginary invasion based entirely on racists being racist

>Low Earth Orbit (LEO) superiority
There is nothing like air superiority in space. Lookup how fast satellites move and how difficult docking manuveurs are.

Marines are the biggest shit bags in the world. They might pull their weight one minute but then they'll go and sell heroin.

You faggots seem to forget that the Air Force is still the biggest logistical force in moving supplies to and from warzones. You run your fucking mouths now, see how well it works out when you need to rely on shithooks getting you ammo downrange instead of 130s.

The Air Force isn't just bombers and fighters. We supply you shitheads, provide precision strikes, and Intel on a global scale. Get fucked.

space superiority as a concept is a thing, one definition i recently saw:

>According to Chinese sources, the goal of space operations is to achieve space superiority (制天权), defined as “ensuring one’s ability to fully use space while at the same time limiting, weakening, and destroying an adversary’s space forces.”
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you could potentially achieve this by destroying launch sites like cape canaveral, destroying satellite downlinks, and jamming satellites in orbit

But if NASA gets a slice of that defense budget pie, they might actually be able to do stuff again.

I agree. AMC is one of the things the Air Force does well. It should stick to what it does well.

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i love how his mich is too small fpr his fatass head and it looks like its about to pop off

Space Marines when?

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>you could potentially achieve this by destroying launch sites like cape canaveral, destroying satellite downlinks
Yeah as long as its on earth you can do that. But shit like destroying an satellite in LEO is almost impossible. Think about this way: the ISS moves about 17000 mph, and since there is no airdrag even tiny farts will create an offpath movement of several miles. Good luck hitting that

Correction
>create an offpath movement of several miles
Of your rocket or bullet

Correction
>create an offpath movement of several miles
Of your rocket or bullet or whatever

whenever another country makes a space station or base on another celestial body and a war happens with that country

> wasting trillions so you can shoot some commies on mars
why not attack their nation here on earth?

They rain down rods from god down on your forces.
Oops, no more invading army, should have taken control of their space forces first.

If space becomes some kind of free for all legal gray area

because if they have a nation on mars we have to shoot that too

>EF-111 retired
>EA-6B retired from Navy (Air Force Borrowed prior)
>EA-18 now only EW Attack aircraft left

"The retirement of the United States Air Force's EF-111A Raven made the EA-6B and EA-18G the only tactical aircraft in the U.S. inventory capable of performing electronic attack."

>They rain down rods from god down on your forces
You know how much these cost, right?
>If space becomes some kind of free for all legal gray area
No it dosent, see space treaty thing from UN
>because if they have a nation on mars
No "nation" on a planet other than earth will be sustainable for the next 200 years

the space treaty only regards nations claiming celestial bodies, and putting nuclear weapons in space
NGOs doing it is a valid loophole, as are nations claiming resources mined from bodies, not the bodies themselves
also
>UN having any power whatsoever

>you know how much these cost, right
considering kinetic bombardment can be done with inert tungsten rods, not very much
even less if you mine and manufacture them in space itself from an asteroid/the moon

>200 fucking years
are you retarded or do you not comprehend how long a timespan that is?
We haven't even been using oil for that long

probably satellites mostly early on. later, bases on other planets and moons and securing the transport between them i assume

Its the transport that costs. Even with SpaceX that will be alot a money spend for some firepower.

>even less if you mine and manufacture them in space itself from an asteroid/the moon
Although this is a good point, mining asteroids isnt exactly easy. Moon makes more sense in terms accessibilty, but noone can tell how this will play out.

You mean its too optimistic? 500 years then?

refueling, repairing, and re-aligning satellites. That's all they will be used for. For jobs drones can't do.

What AFSCs go to Space Command?

And which of those AFSCs has the most black people?

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>And which of those AFSCs has the most black people?
security forces

Here are the exact AFSCs that will get you that brand new Space Force uniform

Officer
USAF 13SX Space Operations Officer

Enlisted
USAF 1C6X1 - Space Systems Operations

There you go. You get into these two, you have gotten yourself a nice black uniform and a new rank name that no one else has.

>the rest of the world won't accept it
they won't because they will be jealous they can't even afford a space force,since when they were relevant in the first place?what is belgium gonna do?stop exporting chocolate?

Ladies, gentleman and everything in between, you hear it here for the first time: space drone carrier.
Now, you might ask, what is a space drone carrier? Well, as technology keeps moving forward, what was once held as an idea, a theory or just a vision, grows into fruition. Two technologies that are relevant to this explanation are unmanned-flying-vehicle, mischievous fellas said to, at least partially, replace manned aircraft, and efficient air-space transition add-on-thingy for "air"planes. When combined, you get a fleet of UFVs that can float in space, enter the atmosphere and leave our planet to take a rest in the grate abyss at will. But you can't just have this expensive toys float around, aimlessly, in outer space- something might happen! And you also need to take care of them and refuel them. So what can you do? You build a space station for them to dock at.
And would you need this whole bardak? Because who doesn't want a fleet of killer robots that can reach any spot on earth in 10 minutes max at the press of a button?

Space will be Navy and Air-force hybrid.

>Space will be Navy and Air-force hybrid.

Source: Your asshole

>2030
>moon colony is going well
>you enlisted in the space force so you can protect the colony against ayys and russians,chineses,magic beings,spiders and rock aliens.
>no "free time" as in,you can't get out of the moon so easily
>your enlisted time is less than 5 years at least
>go back to earth
>your body is now slimy because the lack of gravity fucked up your body comically.
oh boy i can't wait.

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(you) have to go back

>Source: Your asshole
Don't underestimate it's power. Great and powerful made this mistake and are now forgotten to history.

That said, I mean this in the conceptual sense. We're not going to see "actual" space combat in the relevant future, and interplanetary combat is something that neither of us is likely to see in our lifetime. So, this leaves the Space Force with 3 likely and relevant missions: maintenance of space-based assets (probably will have overlapping objectives with NASA), operation of space-based weaponry (as many here suggested), defense of said assets and weapons (missiles are the most realistic threat, and it's likely that the Air Force will hold unto this mission for as long as it can) and logistics management for the whole thing.

Lets focus on the combat aspect, which, due to factors mentioned in the beginning, will be initially used only to attack targets on Earth. This can be done in 2 ways: projectiles launched from space, and asset re-entry. Since "Rods from G-d" were discussed to death, let's focus on the later. Once the tech will allow free passage between the 2 realms- earth and space- jets will be able to take off the ground, reach space in 3 or so minutes, and re-enter at any place in 10 minutes. This is going to be a favorite of the Air Force, and it will be their gimmick because the space here is only used as a bridge. But, if the aircraft starts it's journey in space, than it's a Space Force mission, because the dock-station, the fuel and space-headache is theirs.
And this is why, at least at the start, Air Force and Space Force will look very alike, with only mission's starting point to distinguish them.
So where does the "Navy hybrid" part comes in? Well, space is like a massive ocean, but all vessels are submarines, and the water is completely transparent, and doesn't block any signals, and is harder to maneuver in, and it's even easier to get a vertigo.
So, conceptually, it's a little bit of both.

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centrifuge habitatss can be used to create artificial gravity in both space and on celestial bodies through the wonders of vectors

Most likely will be the same as ours - a separation of space from aurospace forces

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Why not just use Naval rank and recognition like every piece of popular sci-fi to date? Just replace seaman with crewman or spaceman. Modeling it of the USAF's rank structure is retarded.

You first, Jow Forums.

I love this martian nigress

Ur mum gay af nigga

They take the fight to the ayylmaos home planets, for raping people at night.

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that must be the reason of why the higher ups of the air force are not happy with space force. by making it a sweparate branch,they lose control of the "re-entry" gimmick toy,and last i heard,airforce generals are very childish with their toys.