We need a formidable replacement for the Ticonderogas let's not be lazy and replace them with flight III Arleigh burkes
BRING BACK NUCLEAR POWERED CRUISERS
Henry Morgan
Parker Kelly
We had something great and we should've kept it going
Jack Russell
even poor as hell Russia that has had significant budget cuts on their military is reactivating a Kirov
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Joshua Turner
not worth the cost
Carson Lopez
well at least his finger is off the trigger
Luke Barnes
US is already on planning stages on the next cruiser replacement. The systems and equipment is a done deal.
Its the hull form that needs work on.
Julian Sanchez
hopefully something like this
Michael Clark
It'll be a 10,000 ton flight IV Burke
Nicholas Bennett
>cruiser
So a pointless ship?
Because you may as well have more destroyers these days.
Jaxson Gray
A reactor means endurance.
It should also be fitted with railguns and directed energy weapons.
Jace Butler
Liam Evans
We never should have retired the Virginia's, they should have been refitted.
Second to none endurance and the perfect nuke carrier escort
Zachary Morgan
At this point Destroyers are just about cruiser size anyway.
All a modern Cruiser is is a larger sized destroyer with more armarments and an emphasis on anti ship duty, with slightly greater endurance. All of this said I would like the future cruiser hull to come in a slightly elongated reactor powered option, because a nuke carrier with an escort of Nuke Cruisers and some SSN's and SSBN's is perfectly adequate
Dominic Gonzalez
and why not a microwave cannot that can also cook pizza
Nathan Parker
pretty much that and BMDS
replace those two GLMS with VLS and instead of an aft 5 inch gun have a dual hangar
they were a damn beautiful class of ship
700 crew is excessive but damn these ships were good
Kevin Brooks
>vastly inferior capabilities compared to a Tico or Burke while costing nearly twice as much to operate
Matthew Butler
Not to mention the multi-year $300m ROH on each boat that pretty much killed it....
Hunter Gonzalez
700 crew is necessary because of the nuclear reactors.
Cameron Jackson
Time to choose lads.
James Hernandez
that sounds like a perfect plan. lets bring back a dangerous, difficult to maintain ship which has a massive limit on where it can pull into, which requires a huge security detail while in port and which poses a risk of killing it's entire crew and poisoning a vast swath of ocean if it's hit or if it runs aground.
Aaron Davis
Yea, fuck chairs
Lucas Parker
Well, I do longsword, so that's that.
Would like to get into rapier, but gear is expensive and nobody else here does it.
Michael Rogers
why are you talking about the enterprise, this is about cruisers
Aiden Howard
Sword and buckler is the best one there
Jayden Russell
those are all symptoms of nuclear reactors regardless of which ship they're installed in.
Blake Brown
Tikes have an operations control center that a Burke just isn't big enough to support. Cruisers in the American context have a place.
Zachary Ramirez
Tic's hold the responsibility of BMSD off America's cost
Burkes just don't have that room even the Flight III will have a biggger crew and more purposes for the ship so it'll be a very crammed ship if they try to fit ballistic missile defense systems onboard
Aaron Rodriguez
US nuclear industry is dead.
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Kayden Gomez
You mean Russian ones.
No American naval reactor ever had a major accident.
Camden Long
BMD capability is mostly software related. Hardware is a trivial matter.
All Flight III Burkes will be BMD capable. That is what AEGIS Baseline 10 will be.
Blake Smith
Jason Powell
>Russian ones
Soviet. And they fixed their problems. Modern Russian reactors are top-tier.
Cooper Brown
Kevin White
Aiden Bell
I'd love to see the lessons learned from Zumwalt applied to a next-gen Tico with reactors from the Virginia-class: get the whole fleet on the same page propulsion-wise...
Robert Miller
>dude lets put a nuclear reactor in the water and let it float around
>also the nuclear reactor is a military target
Assuming nothing goes wrong, this is how you get three-eyed fish.
Joshua Jenkins
And the Russians can probably afford three.
Ryan Murphy
Jaxson Davis
bring back all gun cruisers.
Benjamin Moore
>SSBNs escorting carriers
You were right on the money until you said this
Nathaniel Morales
Build BMD LPDs instead
Ayden Murphy
Tyler Edwards
>Nuclear powered subs and aircraft carriers aren't a thing.
Matthew Cook
>still has exposed mast
I wish they'd enclose the area between the funnels so that the deck above the hangar was continuous up to the base of the forward superstructure...
Owen Gutierrez
>>I wish they'd enclose the area between the funnels so that the deck above the hangar was continuous up to the base of the forward superstructure...
Kinda like pic related, but not retarded...combining the funnels would be a pain but might free up space for recessed boat storage
Andrew Stewart
>distributed VLS cells like the Zumwalt instead of one armored block
Is this the future?
Dylan Cox
Oh boy anti nukers on Jow Forums. Time to drop babbys first knowledge bombs.
>a light water reactor cannot ever go supercritical for long periods
Aka no mushroom clouds
>the soviet union has already sunk loads of nuclear waste into the ocean
Have you seen a three eyed fish yet?
>water is actually an excellent neutron moderator
Drop fissile material into the ocean, no more fission
>the ocean is an excellent reactor cooling source.
Pretty much every nuclear disaster ever has occurred due to failed cooling not the reactor itself, if your cooling source is, i dunno, near fucking infinite like the ocean and only a couple tens of meters away you're way less likely to have problems cooling
Jayden Ross
You mean like the destroyers that were picked off piecemeal by a third-rate airforce during the Falklands War?
Dylan Davis
Found it!
Nolan Morris
Nice ship. Replace the Harpoon-canisters with NSM's and you are good to go
Julian Morris
>increase any form of government wastage
you military dick sucks make me puke
Cameron Kelly
>Replace the Harpoon-canisters with NSM's and you are good to go
How about distributed cells like in the new enclosed bits of on ether side of the funnels?
Luke Adams
that works too
Thomas Ramirez
If all the VLS cells are moved to either side of the superstructure, the forward cells could be replaced by the magazine for the AGS (pic related, whoever made the model just slapped it on without considering the ammunition) and the additional hangar space freed up by relocating the aft cells could be used to house an Osprey/Valor/AW609/whatever tiltrotor the Navy picks to spite the other branches...
Charles Ramirez
>missiles around the landing pad
Strikes me as a bit awkward...
Blake Wood
WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?
Adam Russell
>lessons learned from Zumwalt
Newer give ship-building contracts to Northrop Grumman?
Liam Harris
>aft helideck
What are we, europoors?
May as well go balls-to-the-wall like the Spruance DDH conversion that was proposed when the sea control ship budget got slashed...
Samuel Phillips
>air capable spruance
With the baseline spru-cans, Ticos, and these abominations, entire fleets could have used the same hull...
Angel Williams
Nukes are hard sell, mainly because let's be honest, it's easier and cheaper both in outlay and long term service to run a conventional engine. Ticos literally have to be cut open to refit their reactors.
Luke Moore
Many Burkes already have BMD capability. The biggest limiter is the number of SM-2 Block IV and SM-3 available.
Kayden Walker
San Antonio's are too slow for CBG or SAG.
Brayden Collins
They've been reactivating that Kirov for twelve years and counting
Ryan Hernandez
poleaxe any time of the day
Kevin Hill
Can’t keep up with CSGs.
Christopher Cook
They've got to be cut open on the regular to service them anyway.
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