> pentagon announces new armament upgrades for the F35 totalling 12 aim120s and 2 aim9s

>> pentagon announces new armament upgrades for the F35 totalling 12 aim120s and 2 aim9s

>> later announces QX58 drone as a forward "wingman" with stealth and capable of super agility


>>> USAF goes to clear out enemy forces
>-4 of these fuckers fly ahead, pic up enemy planes and transmit the locations to Gets while being "annoying fucking bats" targets to distract pilots.
>>> squadron of F35s follow just out of range of enemy
>>> launch missile like a teenager playing fucking ace combat
>>>enemy wiped the fuck out

This is the new way of combat for burgers Jow Forums not sure if I should have a boner or not at this idea.

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forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/04/23/chinas-largest-ghost-city-is-now-90-full-but-theres-a-twist/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under-occupied_developments_in_China
abc.net.au/news/2018-06-27/china-ghost-cities-show-growth-driven-by-debt/9912186
reuters.com/article/us-lockkeed-fighter-upgrades/pentagon-to-move-ahead-with-3-billion-f-35-upgrade-program-in-2018-idUSKCN0WP2XB
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>RUAF announces cancelation of the Su-57

Best time line.

China is also working on unmanned jet drones to augment their J-20 program. But they don't have flying examples yet I believe, like the US Navy's carrier tested X-47B.

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Truly we will become the gods of the sky for years to come.
>dont forget
>slotted for thousands of f-35s

Yup seems like all of warfare is going the same route.

Tanks? Fuck tons of ATGM to counter them, with APS for defense

Fleets? Fuck ton of missile boats with phalax to protect them.

Aircraft? Fuck tons of missiles with range, stealth, flares and chaff to protect them.

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Oh and potential laser self defense systems for fighters to detonate warheads if Darpa ever figures out the cooling issues. We are talking like the size of a college dorm fridge

please go away all of your posts are bad always

>USAF took all the fun out of air2air combat

Cool

IMPLESSIVE

>>slotted for thousands of f-35s
This is for China, right? Tell me this is for China. We will have an economic boom that will rival the post-WWII boom, using the same strategy. Turning your economic rivals into fields of craters and burned out cities, and then selling them the materials to rebuild.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

T.OP GLADIUS EURO

Meant for a2g, going into contested areas.

Holy shit the future is now

we macross now

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Its really fucking creepy how close the art style of Macross Zero emulated the future designs of that Kratos drone.

Macross Zero also predicted hardpoint mounted stealth missile pods.

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>when real life has 12AAM and Ace Combat only has 6AAM
step up your game Namco

Sounds fucking based.

a pilot is a negligible costt of a modern jet fighter, the only thing that is really needed is teaching pilots not to needlessly stress the airframe, which causes maintenance needs to go up 10x

>a pilot is a negligible costt of a modern jet fighter

Wew lad.

Its meant as both. Its also given the ablility to use GBUs as a kind of roboric wild weasel.

If cheap enough, you could flood the skies with cheap hard to detect drones that are super disposable, while pilot based stealth aircraft are kept in reserve to make the harder decisions for targets.

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Can anyone explain why it doesn't have a tail (for stealth?) and does this effect maneuverability, good or bad?

I'm no expert, but I assume that less surface area corresponds to less radar cross section.

No, this is because daddy Lockheed spanked the DoD and made him buy his stuff. No major power has confronted each other in direct combat since world war 2 because of the nuclear deterrent.

Same reason we have 200 F 22s whizzing around the mainland, unable to engage in any overseas conflict without going to impractical lengths (aerial refilling and special hangars).

>No major power has confronted each other in direct combat since world war 2 because of the nuclear deterrent.
no, no major power has confronted another in direct combat since world war 2 because nobody was sure what exactly would set off a nuclear war.

modern countries aren't suffering from a shortage of reasons to go to war, it's just that simply invading is an escalation with unknown consequences. russia invading ukraine absolutely could have started a large war, but it didn't because russia was smart enough to set the stage for the invasion beforehand with espionage, propaganda, posturing, etc.

if things get to the point where china legitimately believes invading taiwan will be beneficial, taiwan will be invaded. mattis explaining his view on the tactical usage of nuclear weapons simply helps china, since it knows that there is a level it can escalate to that, although guaranteeing a nuclear exchange, won't result in a nuclear war.

oh and the missile defense systems aren't helping either. nor are the lasers.

US is following #1 China desu, piloted combat air vehicles are on the way out. Should have happened a decade ago but there were egos involved.

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This to but to emphasize. The other worry isn't just that someone would go full mad, but that a tactical counter force strike might be mistaken as full counter value because of lack of communications from war damages.

Remember there has been numerous times when a station had picked up what seemed to be a full strike due to bugs, but thanks to cross verification, was recognized as not.

Now what do you think happens when said station sees an attack, but they are getting jammed or other radars are already down because of preemptive strikes to gain air superiority?

This. Plus advanced avionics means that the elevators can constantly change to keep from going into a dutch roll

Pretty sure F-22 weapon schematics were out before that...

Free Market > Communism

China will lose

Pretty sure enclosed weapon pods weren't planned for the Raptor back then.

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But who is the free market, Chinks or burgers? The US defense establishment is full of bureaucracy, central planning, and economic bottlenecks and rent seekers.

State Capitalism > Communism > Shit > "Free Market" (i.e. institutionalized corruption)

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Retard...on so many levels.

>believing commie propaganda
Yea, no. Usa has nearly 5 times the yearly investment in defense that China does. That alone more or less debunks the China has the cutting edge of anything theory. China has always been all about talking big about their revolutionary tech that you hear about once, never see a demonstration of, and then suddenly it's gone forever and never talked about again. if China was so good at tech, how come they have ccp backed efforts to hack NATO and Usa defence contractors while sniffing for that juicy reverse engineerable tech. if China was so "ahead" why do they still need to import so much difficult to manufacture aircraft tech from Russia? Russia, a nation that not only the chineese outspend, but that the USAF alone outspends its entire defence budget? you're telling me that the notorious liers and propaganda spreaders from the ccp would never lie about being on the cutting edge of defence technology? that, despite all of the evidance showing how unlikely it is that the ccp has the resources to out innovate even the Russians, that somehow they've beat the us in the airpower cold war? yea sure, Cheng, whatever you say.

>impractical lengths (aerial refilling...)
I'll give you the hangar requirement (though it's not actually at all excessive, you want a secure hanger for your aircraft no matter what it is), but ferry flights with in flight refueling is completely standard for any nation which has the power to project force across oceans.

>>Enemy EW jams the drones
>>Burgers RTB

>>Burgers try again
>>Enemy EW jams the drones
>>Burgers RTB

>>Burgers try again
>>Enemy sees the drones and lets them pass
>>Burgers fly past too
>>Enemy jams the drones and opens fire on Burgers
>>Burgers RTB because enemy can't hit shit
>>Burgers use cruise missile instead

>"Burgers" still have piloted planes that can easily evade air defenses
>Enemy shit will be destroyed one way or the other

>That alone more or less debunks the China has the cutting edge of anything theory.
dumb. so dumb.

Pure capitalism and pure socialism both end up at the same thing. Mafia capitalism.

The true path forward is through social democracy.

Now if SocDems would stop being weenies for a second we would be on Mars by now.

>Being this chinkshill

>u-yr dumb
proof, Cheng. we in the west, who dont need a VPN to get on the internet, need to be told [why] something is true.

here, I'll play your game tho: nah you dumb usa the bestest xDdddd11!1

do you wanna know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

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>Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy. The protocols and norms used to accomplish this involve a commitment to representative and participatory democracy; measures for income redistribution and regulation of the economy in the general interest; and welfare state provisions.[1][2][3] Social democracy thus aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater democratic, egalitarian and solidaristic outcomes.[4] Due to longstanding governance by Social Democratic parties and their influence on socioeconomic policy development in the Nordic countries, in policy circles "social democracy" has become associated with the Nordic model in the latter part of the 20th century.[5]

>within the framework of a capitalist economy

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EPIX MEME LOLZ xD

>all this butthurt curry nigger salt
Sure thing Ranshit

That's Hong Kong, tho.

Capitalism.

>thinking the US is the biggest swinging dick on the block=being a currynigger
LMAO at this chink cope

>I'm not a socialist. im a socialist who lives in America.

"the end goal of socialism is communism" -lenin

just because bernie Sanders tells you there is a "huge difference" doesn't mean there is. you're a socialist.

>he thinks in Indian
lord, cheng. get it together.

>>burger gets mad at post on the internet
>>burger eats another burger

Assblasted Chink detected

>promote social justice
nice try faggot

The velocity of a ch dollar spent on defense is much higher than in the US because everyone has to line thier pockets in the military industrial complex. China is pushing their capabilities forward.

Haha oh wow

>chingchongs actually believe their military industrial complex isn't corrupt to the max

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less than the US because of far tighter enforced schedules, commissars with big hats and guns just right behind each and every engineer and actual feeling of mortal threat coming from the US driving the catch up efforts.

I guess you two are too retarded to think for yourselves. Did you just completely discount the fact that PLA spending composition isn’t identical to that of the US?

There really should be an IQ filter for this board.

HK. Might as well be london.

Tail-less designs have dramatically decreased RCS, especially for the VHF radars that are getting good at picking up on "normal" stealth planes

You end up with less yaw authority, of course. B-2 dealt with this with differential thrust from the engines; no idea what this single engine drone does

Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder

>There really should be an IQ filter for this board.
But then you wouldn't be able to post your drivel here, Chang.

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so you're implying that your commie design boards suck of 90% of the pla's annual budget? if that were true, which it isn't, you still wouldn't even hold a candle to the sheer commerce that flows through the r&d branches of the major us defence contractors. Not only is the USA the global economic hegemon, but defence r&d is conducted in a competitive market place, breeding the best possible results. But let's assume you're right, and the pla's spending on r&d surpasses the usa's. How much money would the rest of the pla have spend on manufacturing and modernization? which, btw, everyone knows the pla is struggleing with. let's assume your 200 man commie design board sucking up huge amounts of GDP did come up with quantum super technology on the cutting edge of possibility, leaving the rest of the world behind. guess what, you're left with no money to supply and implement these technologies because you cant match the consumer economy of the us and have to live entirely on exporting cheaply manufactured goods. this is why you're getting reamed in a trade war right now, Cheng. If the usa wanted, it could cripple your nation in a trade war that, while wounding the us, would destroy your nation. and likely topple the ccp in the process. guess you'll never get to invade Taiwan after all. Er, shit, I mean invade "yourself". enjoy your billions in tariffs :^)

> people actually believe this
>people think giving the govt more power will lead to less corruption

>but defence r&d is conducted in a competitive market place, breeding the best possible results.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit nigga, rule No.1 is DON'T DRINK YOUR OWN KOOLAID.
Fuck you're stupid.
FYI, I worked in the defense sector. Did research at APL on ASW systems.

Pretty cringey my dude. Very "12yo CoD player" kind of vibe if you know what I'm sayin.

Give the dictator everything and he will clean out corruption because corruption means people will be stealing HIS money.

Authoritarian single party states like Singapore, where corrupt officials get caned until their ass-cheeks bleed are literally corruption free.

Only wh*toids believe that by giving people more freedoms means that they become better. Humans are evil by nature and the best way to educate them and keep them disciplined is to have a muzzle pointed to the head of every single of them.

>Has no actual counterargument
>Time to meme like an assblasted retard

>Chinkshill spills spaghetti

>especially for the VHF radars that are getting good at picking up on "normal" stealth planes
Reminder that "detecting" something doesn't mean you can do anything about it.

Not sure if edgelord or just chink

>>>Hey guys i put bolts on pratt witneyengines for...i know everyhing sboutthe Defind.

Guys who apeal to authorityknow jack shit and are always bottom tier employees trying to sound cool.

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Prove it.

>what is the military industrial complex?

The reason our defense spending is so high is because our contractors take advantage of the fact that our government will pay $60 for a box of nails.

>Give the dictator everything and he will clean out corruption

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king chink even admitted that china was corrupt as fuck. tell me how many ghost cities china has now?

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none.

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>US reveals new tech they plan to use in the near future
>chink shills immediately show up to do damage control

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>but one of them coming back
lol. how many others are there?
businessinsider.com/these-chinese-cities-are-ghost-towns-2017-4
afr.com/news/world/asia/chinas-ghost-cities-and-their-multibilliondollar-debt-20180404-h0ybjz
hell, chinks even used loopholes to make the city look full
forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/04/23/chinas-largest-ghost-city-is-now-90-full-but-theres-a-twist/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under-occupied_developments_in_China
abc.net.au/news/2018-06-27/china-ghost-cities-show-growth-driven-by-debt/9912186

show of hands, how many chicoms here are actually Chinese?

did you even read your own articles?

>Ghost Cities of China author Wade Shepard — who has been documenting the existence of ghost cities since he first stumbled across a sprawling vacant metropolis in 2006 — sees these cities as simply in a phase between construction and inhabitability.

>"A lot of these cities that got their start in 2000, 2003 — they are pretty much developed — if you go there now you will not know that they were a new city," Mr Shepard said, citing a number of examples including some of China's most economically viable cities.

>"If you look around, you will think this is a normal city and just assume this is the way it always was, not knowing that 10 years ago people were calling it a ghost city, 20 years ago it was just apartments and villages."


>Mr Shepard said the same kind of construction phase had been seen throughout global history when developed nations first expanded, just not on the same excessive scale as in China.

>"They build more than anybody else, more extensively than anybody else, and they have more of an extensive master plan than pretty much any power, empire or kingdom in history ever had," Mr Shepard said.

>Unlike many cities across the globe where populations constantly outgrow the infrastructure, leaving city planners to find new ways of dealing with traffic jams and demand for more construction space, China is usually one step ahead.

>As one Chinese city mayor said, it was like buying a suit a few sizes too big for a growing boy.

China just catches up far faster than any of you white subhumans. What you did in 100 years, China does in 10 years.

Cope with it.

did you see the other articles? one ghost city making a rebound (not really, they only filled a fraction of the city) the others are still there empty.

remember when russia BTFO chinkland so hard they reverted back to north korea days? they should do it again. china would never survive russia.

>no source

cool

reuters.com/article/us-lockkeed-fighter-upgrades/pentagon-to-move-ahead-with-3-billion-f-35-upgrade-program-in-2018-idUSKCN0WP2XB

The X-47B is so much more advanced it's already been cancelled

Care to elaborate?

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THE F35 IS A PIECE OF SHIT

Take your meds, Pierre.

denial

>>> later announces QX58 drone as a forward "wingman" with stealth and capable of super agility
I said it on Jow Forums first, years ago: 7gen will be defined by networked manned + unmanned teams, turning each combat pilot into the equivalent of a flight leader except staying farther back

China only has that tech because they were able to steal it. Guess who they stole from?
We should be executing traitors in the most horrific way possible instead of pardoning them and letting them run for office.

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They already did lmao
>14AAM with external stealth pylons

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