What made Vietnam so special and so culturally important?

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First cknstantly televised war
First time a government couldnt controlthemedia reports
First time americans werefighting insurgents and conducting coin against an enemy thag made themselves blend into the civilian populace

Gee i wonder why......

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dumb frogposter

Did you make this on the fly?

58,318 dead Americans with nothing to show at the end

We learned stuff about helicopter doctrine.
Something/10 would fight again.

Jews and marxists used it as leverage to speed up the culture revolution

Media play a huge role.
Showed people how meaningless the conflict was.
First war that showed us getting our asses beat by farmers

Fast forward to 2018, and Vietnam is communist only in name and friendly with the US

Only to show that it was a gigantic waste of time and only benefitted war profiteers.

The US won every battle and had an outstanding KD ratio.
The problem was our leaders are fucking retards and focused on muh hearts and minds and search and destroy missions rather than taking and holding territory.
When you're doing a "police action" against people who are waging war, you will always lose.

If war was still about killing raping and enslaving, then KD would be important, buts it's all political now.

The US empire got beat by illiterate rice farmers. That's what happens when you try to face off against a guerrilla army when you try and play empire. Same thing with the taliban in Afghanistan. 17 years later and we had to pull out and they control half the country now because it is there back yard and home and can out wait us

It got beat by hippies and the media. Not the VC or NVA.

It was a war where the average man could expect to not only be drafted, but to see heavy combat as well.

First war that showed American boys being shot and foreign kids being bathed in napalm.

Also, dem hueys.

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This

Fucking hippies

>so special
We refused to use the full might of the military due to (((subversive actors))) stateside.

>so culturally important?
The (((subversive actors))) used the artificially poor results to influence politics and promote (((communism))).

Lmao. The absolute state of the American GI. Can't even defeat scrawny Asians with communist hand me downs

brainlet post

It's special because it's the first time the masses got to see what war really is.
The civvies back home really only knew about the second world war, but they had only heard stories of heroism and bravery, this wasn't the case in Vietnam because of the significantly stronger media presence in the 60's and 70's.

The media is what caused the US to get all butthurt over it's own war.

Showed the world that America really has no idea what it's doing and can be beaten.

Once again, communism wins.

korea...

However, arguably, for Afghanistan, the goal of removing Al Qaeda terror cells was achieved wouldn't compare it exactly to Vietnam.

We got our asses kicked by some jungle bois. America's supposed to do the ass kicking, it just doesn't feel right the other way around.

Every war after this one proved the same about guerilla warfare. With patriotism dying down we lost the will to kick ass without consequences, and now everything in our media is subversive.

Learnwhere yourspacebar is

Lmao no.

Afghanistan was a shit show and the powers that be kept changing the goal posts.

>9/11 happened because of al queda
>taliban is protecting them better fuck them up too
>we expelled al queda and osama bin laden but the taliban is still here
>ok we can't get rid of the taliban so we'll pull out and let the Afghan government forces handle it out while we back off
>this isn't working and the taliban is stronger than ever...

All the while opium production sky rockets and we discover that they're sitting on tremendous mineral resources.
Hmm I wonder (((why))) we're still there

The exploitation of flawed media coverage of the war by popular figures of the New Left. An American populace already made decadent and spiritually despondent by the post-war glut allowed such figures to infiltrate or replace our cultural institutions. We haven't and will never recover from the cultural upheaval of the '60's and '70's, you're living in the free-loving Boomer's world now.

>The US won every battle and had an outstanding KD ratio.
No fucking shit, moron. If a force can go toe-to-toe with the enemy and beat them conventionally, said force has no reason to go underground and wage a guerilla war. God, is there anything more brainless than using conventional performance as a metric for measuring success in an unconventional conflict?
>m-muh stabbed in the back myth
It was a bullshit rationalization for military failure in Weimar Germany, and it's a bullshit rationalization for military failure now. The US military approach to Vietnam was all tactics, no strategy. As a result they developed a myopic obsession with muh K/D ratio, firepower and flailing about for technological silver bullets in hopes that they their aimless tactical war would somehow magically conjure forth the achievement of their vague, practically nonexistent victory conditions.
Blaming hippies is just easier than admitting that the US military had garbage strategy and a terminal compulsion to mission creep, both problems which have plagued it as an institution since at least the end of the Second World War.

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>Implying korean era media coverage even came close to vitnam era media

Correct except never recovering. Those same boomers are dying off or retiring and the leftist side of Gen Z is too cucked to even maintain their order. Weimerica will be a fun place in the 20s and 30s.

>Being this moronic
Nigger I never said the US had a flawless or even decent strategy, nor did some of us use muh KD as an excuse.
All I'm saying is that the media had a massive impact, and if you seriously don't believe the media had a huge influence during the war, you must be retarded.

>he thinks Germany wouldn't have won the war if the Jews remained loyal
Imagine being this brainwashed

>What made Vietnam so special and so culturally important?
First War won by Information warfare waged by leftist cucks inside the US academia, social movements and Media against their own country.

Mcarthy should have purged them and the USA would have bagged an easy victory.

I'd love to talk about the many leadership failures in Vietnam but the OP was
>What made Vietnam so special and so culturally important?
so fuck off fag lmao

The good guys actually won.

It may not have been a victory like the US wanted, but an absolute ton of modern military tactics and strategies came out of Vietnam, not to mention the important move from a conscripted military to a volunteer one.
Stuff like SEAD, modern CAS, air cavalry tactics, modern dogfighting, and the importance of keeping the media on a leash were all lessons largely learned in Vietnam. The results of these lessons resulted, in part, in the absolute shitstomp that was Desert Storm.

Can somebody post that pic of the Chad meme about WWII vs Vietnam, with the "Chad fortunate son"?

It aint me

Late again.

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It wasn't winnable to begin with.