8 out of every 11 German soldiers killed in WW2 perished against the Soviet Union

>8 out of every 11 German soldiers killed in WW2 perished against the Soviet Union

>Hurr, American won because Lend Lease shoes and socks

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>if the commies say it's true, it's gotta be true

>Shoes and socks not being one of the most important thing in an infantryman's pack

British & American funding of Russian Communists played a significant role in the Communist's ability to wage war against the Germans.
Don't pretend, faggot.

>implying any faction in WW2 would have been able to win without the others

Okay, US + USSR minus Britain would probably still be fine, but even then it would be a lot more difficult and have a much less satisfactory outcome.

The Allies could easily win without the USA.

>It's an Armatard is lonely so he makes a bait thread episode
These are always depressing

Yeah, cause 1939 till 1942 was nothing but Allied victories.

This is poor bait written by a savage whose country and peoples are getting replaced by dune coons.

Remember to sage if you reply.

>US joins war in 1941 and fights a 3 front war
>USSR joins war in 1941 and fights a single front war

This just in Commies are missing the point like they’re missing food to eat.

Considering how the US pretty much funded all the Allies and gave them resources in the form of food, vehicles and arms, no

>feet are overrated anyway

Literally takes mutts 6 months to cross the Rhine while the red army is steam rolling

If by steam rolling you mean steam rolling the corpses of their own citizens into roads that they could use to get to the fight, then sure.

Lelbreadlines

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Ung

This why communism will always lose, they have no counter to beeg American(and japanese) teetees.

>eurofags actually believe this

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>He doesn’t know the Americans were in Germany a month before the USSR
>He doesn’t know the Americans Steam rolled Italy
>He doesn’t know the Americans steam rolled the Scandinavian countries (Finland is not Scandinavian)
>He doesn’t know the Americans steam rolled North Africa
>He doesn’t know the Americans steam rolled the Pacific after the battle of midway
>He obviously doesn’t know

im sure having an ocean between you and the competition makes it a little easier

I've seen sacks of marbles that possessed more sentience than you.

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WW2 never happened, it is a cover up from the Nazis of Germany and Russia to make to MASS MURDER of 11 million jews look like a war.

Hey friend, I don’t know if you heard but Japan is closer to Russia than it is to the United States.

Also, that ocean applies to both countries. It’s not like it gave one side a massive advantage, even though japan spent a majority of the late 30’s invading and dominating those smalls islands in the Pacific.

Nigger if you're going by pure body count Germany and Japan won the war.

shut it down.

Because it was just shoes and socks.
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Here's every thing we sent those stupid vodka swilling retards during the war. Good thing we sent them shit like refined Uranium and Heavy Water, sure that was a great fucking idea.

What was the pacific front?

Why didnt you the first three years? You species cant even endure an influx of modern immigrants without having your daughters and wives get fucked like rags ^^

Hey guys i'm feeling pretty sleepy, what about you?

>join in late in both world wars
>the 1911 won both world wars

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Go ask any GI how far he'd get in the winter without shoes and socks.

Damn right

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Moar

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>World War II
>World War
>World

How many strategic bombing operations did the USSR undertake against Germany, proper?

How many aircraft carriers and subs did the USSR have? How many amphibious landings in other theaters did the USSR engage in?

How many other theaters of war did the Soviets even engage in and win?

Soviets killed hella Germans. Cool. They beat back an invader that had a nasty bout of the incompetence. They literally couldn't have done it without British and American war materiel support.

American and British forces actually fought and won a multiple-theater, multiple front war (i.e a fucking world war), and fought in those theaters more or less simultaneously.

Slaviboos got their anuses ravaged and savaged by the Nazi fucks they were cozy enough with to co-invade Poland with in the first place. They pretty much only kept hold of Moscow because their invader got wet and also went full derp and missed their narrow-ass window to take it.

I swear to god the worst thing about WWII is the amount of absolute delusion its manifested in not just brain-dead vatnik retards, but even in non-Brit Euros about their suddenly obvious-in-retrospect World War prowess.

French BTFO
Scandinavia BTFO
Eastern Europe severely BTFO

Meanwhile USA and GB doing business mode in the Pacific, North Africa, southern Europe, the North Atlantic, and the Pacific. Russia's role in WWII was that of a glorified two-way bullet sponge to wear down and occupy hella divisions of Wehrmacht, which we can grant they did pretty well.

They did fuck all to "win" the actual global conflict that was WWII, and what they did do they sure as shit didn't do all by their big boi selves.

They then proceeded to war crime all the way to Berlin for their trouble, *literally fucking* over all the people they "liberated" from under the imperial boot.

Fucking Russians.

>MUH KILLS

Wait, so the US won Vietnam?

Ever seen someone go full potato?
No?
Look at OP

lmao US citizens would be shooting invaders for fun.

By body count, US wins. 400,000 dead entire war, nips lose 80,000 in one day.

>3x1 is more than 1x10

America captured almost as many Germans in 1 year as the Soviets killed throughout the entire war.
While fighting across the world in multiple theaters, while supplying their allies.

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One has to remember that the T-34 had a gearbox that would last 150-300km.
The russians produced 134 locomotives during the war. They got 2300 locomotives from their allies.
I'd like to see how many gear boxed a T34 would need to get from the urals to Europe if it had to drive under its own power.
German gearboxes lasted about the same as the russians but the German gearboxes where already shredded when they arrived at the front as they had to drive to the front on account of the German rails, locomotives and trainyards being bombed to shit courtesy of the West. That is if they had enough fuel to get there since the refineries also got bombed to shit, also courtesy of the allies.
70% of the luftwaffe was stationed on the western front as well as a million men manning tens of thousands heavy flak guns, flak guns capable to rape any russian tank during the war if employed in the anti tank role. Guns that there would have been more of if the west hadn't smashed every factory taller than two bricks in Germany.
Furthermore, much of the memes regarding german gearbox and armor plate quality stem from the fact that the allies managed to halt the flow of high quality steel and alloy metals from Scandinavia.

Without Western strategic bombing and supplies, russia would never been able to defeat Germany.

>America captured almost as many kids with panzerfausts and old men from volksturm in 1 year as the elite SS and wehrmacht divisions Soviets killed
Noice

>Disarmed Enemy Forces
And they killed almost that same amount of German Prisoners by starving them to death!

>implying kids with panzerfausts and old men from volksturm wouldn't fight to the death for daddy Hitler

>How many strategic bombings against Germany did the USSR conduct?
About 17 missions from August 8 to September 1941, dropping 30,0000lbs on Berlin.

>17 missions
vs literal thousands of b-17s

>How many subs and amphibious operations did the USSR Conduct
Several actually. They had the largest sub fleet, the RKKF was the first to respond for war conducting raids against Bulgarian and Romanian ports on the fourth day of war.
It was the Ladoga Flotilla which helped the Siege. It was the Baltic fleet that landed on Moondzund islands, it was the Pacific that landed on Kuril islands. They did amphibious landings, but not on the scale of D-Day or the Pacific Front. They didn't need aircraft carriers, for they had a large amount of tactical bombers within VVS RKKF air fleets.
Remember how I said they had the largest sub fleet? They had around 300+ subs at the beginning of the war. Most of them pretty modern. Remember the siege of Sebastopol? It was the subs who helped transport refugees to other parts of the USSR.

And all this ignores the question of whether or not the US aided the wrong totalitarian superstate.

The US should have joined the Axis not that there was a "good guy" in that war except Finland and anti-communist factions in Eastern Europe. Topic like these further stengthen my sympathies towards the Axis.

Of course, it would have been better had Woodrow Wilson during the first World War made the US act as a mediator instead of a belligerent. That alone would have prevented the Treaty of Versailles thereby preventing much of the carnage of WW2.

Fuck off to /his/

With all these action movies nowadays, with the focus on battles and similarly exciting stuff, it's no wonder the general public tend to think that personal weapons and vehicles are the most important thing. While these are the reason of existing of the soldier, indeed, if he doesn't exist or see his little feets rotten into oblivion, he can't perform his function.

Very true.

Never forget the 6 gorillion.

>this is what they believe

sauce?

>us should have joined the axis
Well that kind of went out the window when Japan bombed our shit and Germany/Italy declared war days later.

it is reality tho

>elite SS
Holy fucking kek. Nothing but a glorified waste of resources and funny battle record

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Did you know Germany has jets and B I S M A R C K?

HELLO FAGGIT

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MUNITIONS $4,651,582,000 NON-MUNITIONS 4,826,084,000 ---------------- Total 9,477,666,000 Note: the figure of $11 billion includes services as well as goods furnished.

The U.S. Government has never released detailed reports on what was sent in Lend-Lease, so Major Jordan's data, gleaned from the Russians' own manifests, is the only public record. More than one-third of Lend-Lease sent was illegal under the terms of the act which specifically prohibited "goods furnished for relief and rehabilitation purposes."

It should be kept in mind that Russia was an ally of Japan throughout the war, that it had been the ally of Hitler during the first two years of the war, that its division of Poland with Germany started the war, that it was an agressive imperialist force that attacked Finland and subverted the Baltic states as well, that it had announced that it intended to take over the world and that most of the aid sent in 1945 was sent after Stalin's February speech in which he said he would continue the war but against the United States.

Franklin Roosevelt's alter ego and Lend-Lease administrator Harry L. Hopkins, a KGB agent, declared to Russia before a crowd at Madison Square Garden on June 22, 1942, that: "We are determined that nothing shall stop us from sharing with you all that we have." He was not joking.

Glad to see foreigners are still absolutely obsessed with America as usual. Literally can't stop thinking about us.

Steam rolling on American trucks, with American clothing and American food

>steam rolling
on american trucks running on american fuel, with tanks made from american steel, operated by soldiers wearing american clothes armed with american weapons fed with american food

SS Hitlerjugend were killing allies on mass though.

So Stalin howling for a 2nd Front for three years was just diplomatic hijinks?

Excuse me? American steamrolling anyone or anything in Scandinavia? WHEN?

>30,0000lbs
A single B-17 combat box formation carried three times as much bombs as a month of russian bombing. and that is if they carried the lighter long range loadout.

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Not to mention "howling for a second front" while we were already ripping the Germans a new asshole in Italy, forcing Hitler to send the Wehrmacht down there in the middle of the Battle of Kursk, Germany's last gamble on the Eastern Front

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Eh, the pastas pretty much steamrolled themselves.

>Russia
>large amount of tactical bombers
Russia didn't have SHIT for an air corps anywhere, 70% of what they did have was lend-lease, and they had too few pilots to fly those.

Depended entirely on Japan

Japan rear ends Stalin and ignoring the US would have completely changed the war. The US would have been struggling for an excuse to fight when it’s population didn’t want to, and Hitler could have gotten the push he needed to finally take Moscow

Japan ignoring the Soviets and dragging the now pissed off Americans into the war changed everything

See and Not sure if this was an "akshually" post or a "lol at Soviet strategic bombing contribution" post.

The Soviets did in fact have a navy, and a sub fleet. The question here in regards to "muh Soviets won the war" is: compared to the other Allies, what exactly did they do *compared to their (sudden and convenient)* allies in the advancement of winning in all of the theaters that had to be fought and won?

The answer is an incredibly small amount that more than pales in comparison to the two other powers involved.

And I have to say, the USSR lacking aircraft carriers isn't a feature in a world war, it's a glitch. It didn't matter to them for precisely the fact that they did no heavy lifting beyond the Eastern Front.

Would've been pretty cool if the Soviets had capable carriers in any effective number and (somehow) managed to get them into the Pacific fight... But wait, they wouldn't have done that anyway because they also had a Neutrality Pact with the Japanese until they suddenly didn't...like two minutes before the Japanese capitulated. And that's assuming the Soviets could have even afforded to operate effectively in the West and East simultaneously. Odds are good they would've been shot in the neck by the Japanese - again - post summer/fall 1941. It's probably arguable that the Soviet Union was saved by the War in the Pacific, otherwise it likely would've been a matter of time before Germany begged the Japanese to throw into the fight against Russia.

Don't know how much I bite on that notion, myself, but suffice to say it's fucking annoying how much the Soviet contribution to winning the war is inflated when it was their own opportunism that pigeon-holed them into basically having one job (which they did as well as could be expected) in the whole damn war.

LMAO even with Hitlers horrendous attempt at bombing britain something eventually would have happened and that shithole of an island would finally be eradicated.

Nope. The USSR handled Japan in like 3 weeks swept away their entire Asian continental army which the Chinks couldn't defeat since the 30s.

But I thought k/d didn't matter???

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kek

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That was before Hitler was at the gates of Moscow and it was an even fight between the two of them. Also the general that literally stopped Hitler at the gates of Moscow and marched all the way to Berlin was the General at Khalkin Gol, which wouldn’t have happened again

There was a reason Stalin’s greatest fear was Japan taking Vladivostok and then taking over the Trans Siberian railroad. If Japan had gone for Vladivostok and Stalin did something retarded like send reinforcements to it, it might have been just enough for Hitler to take Moscow and topple the Soviet Union for good

With the Soviets down, the war would have been drastically different with the fight only being the Brits vs the Axis unless America stepped in on their own accord

>but Napoleon took Moscow and it didn’t help at all!

The established Russian Empire in 1812=/=the much younger Soviet Union in 1941. Toppling the Soviet Union was the key to Axis victory, and without it they lost the war

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why did hitler attack stalin at all?

oil

Stalin would have attacked Hitler eventually, and it’s doubtful the Germans could hold on against an organized Soviet horde, hence why Hitler struck first when they were least expecting it

Because Nazism literally justified its existence as being a bulwark against communism. They were mortal enemies from the get go, and waiting only meant the Soviet union would be stronger. Hitler wasn't able to win against a broken, incompetent, poorly equipped Soviet Union. If he waited, he would be invaded by a fully modernized and maybe semi-competent Soviet Union.

A Soviet Union fielding semi-automatic SVT-40s to every rifleman (the German invasion very seriously disrupted its distribution and adoption, as they captured hundreds of thousands of the rifles awaiting distribution to the Red Army), faced a Red Army fielding tanks completely invulnerable to German tanks at any distance. They would have been outgunned, outnumbered, and ultimately defeated before the US could push in and save half their sorry excuse for a nation.

And funding the National Socialism, too.

Japan did ignore the US, pearl harbor was a false flag to get the US into the war.

>What is Holland
>What is Norway
>What is Denmark
>What is Norwegian Sea
>What is The North Sea
>What is The Baltic Sea
>What is Amsterdam

>Holland
It's a region of the Netherlands, not in Scandinavia
>Amsterdam
A city in the Netherlands, not in Scandinavia
>Norway
Not steamrolled by the US; German forces and the Norwegian government surrendered the same day Germany did. Armed Norwegian resistance occupied government offices and oversaw the transition of government.
>Denmark
Not steamrolled by the US; Denmark was liberated by England. Like Norway, native resistance secured the country prior to Allied landing. Denmark surrendered two days before Germany did.

Both Denmark and Norway surrendered without a fight-they weren't steamrolled by anyone but their own people.

Stalin himself said they would never had beten the germans if it wasnt for Lend lease, so Im afraid you are wrong.

>90% of all the USSR's trucks came from America
>without lend lease the USSR would be using horses like the krauts

Absolute state of vatniks

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