Humvee grenade

Hey Jow Forums,
Im a semi explosives expert.

Can you explain to me why humvees have a problem with handgrenades ?

I mean the shockwave is >1ft away and the 50-80g HE cant do much.

Please help

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>i'm an expert
>please explain to me how this basic fundamental aspect of the thing I say I am an expert on works.

> Im a semi explosives expert.

So your missing a hand?

I refer you to:

semi expert but I dont know shit about War...

Gee whiz why would an unarmed vehicle get fuck up by an explosive going off next to/on it guys?

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Working as a chemist inside a explosive factory makes me kind of a semi expert.

Im making explosives, test them with my team...

But thats away from the solution for the topic

Its not unarmed ? Is it.
The frags can mess up and the shockwave will bend metal (not much).

>Can you explain to me why humvees have a problem with handgrenades
Mostly the HE inside of them. Also there's no guarantee that it's just one grenade or that the thing wasn't dropped right on top of or on the vehicle.
> 50-80g HE cant do much.
That's where you're wrong kiddo.
>Im making explosives, test them with my team...
Rrrrrrrright. What compositions do you work on?

War grenades have +5 dam over regular grenades.

>compositions
Jelly or granulate NH4NO3 with EGDN or/with NG + Al.
The mixes for water proof underwater blasting or dry-holes.
Next sector is with Organonitrates and for the Army HMX based explosives (all plastic)

50-80g HMX is a word, but only at direct contact. It cant bend plates 1 ft away

fragments can be pretty dangerous, and are essentially bullets.
I remember reading that the fragments from a soviet F1 grenade could go up to 200 meters.

That's mostly fire damage, I don't see a problem here...

You mean the S-Mine.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-mine

Thats not a game.
Explosives can kill you without exploding

>The radius of the shrapnel dispersion is up to 200 meters (effective radius is about 30 meters, by some sources)

>The radius of the shrapnel dispersion is up to 200 meters (effective radius is about 30 meters, by some sources
Thats only for the spread.
>30m away from Mine
>3m shrapnel high
>565 m^3 spread
>i think 2000 balls

So going to 60m and 4m high gets to lucky hits

This


Op, we're not talking about straight up concussion. We're talking about fragments punching through thin skinned vehicles. Realistically, you only need to cause enough damage to disable something. Might happen instantly, might happen 10 minutes down the line.

A vehicle is only as robust as its frame and its armor, and when push comes to shove, a small projectile traveling fast is more than enough to fuck your day.

Also, no source saying image is from hand grenade. The only thing I can find on that pic is saying it's from some sort of explosives damage.

>Humvee Destroyed in Iraq, unclear what the destruction was caused by, but from the degree of demolition, it appears to be explosives such as an IED.
flickr.com/photos/aliveinbaghdad/66825038

remember to reverse image search before you say there's no source

I never said this is wrong ;)
But a HAND grenade frag cant penetrate 0.5" hard steel.

Dont tell me a Humvee has no under armor ?

The estimates velocity is about 25-35% Detonationv. (Explosive)

Pic is only for thread. Not about HG

Does the phrase "Unclear what the destruction was caused by" give you a good source???

Humvee has no under armor standard. It's a light vehicle.

I'll give you that. Where is your source with Humvees and hand grenade troubles? Show me some figures, show me some data. Give me something more to operate with other than a statement.

Thx you
Thats a fucking joke. Was the army so silly ?

If this is the solution Thread should KIS.

Or somebody with question about chemistry, expolsives and shit for me ?

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Heard from friends (work) and seen it on wiki a few years ago (old article)

>Was the army so silly ?
Yes. That's why HMMWVs where being slowly phased out and being replaced my ASVs like the 1117 and other armored vehicles in Iraq.

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Lots of small things that will break apart under pressure.

no but I'm not OP

It was intended for scouting at most, otherwise just being a multirole utility truck. It's fine.

That said, nowadays we have the tech to do both, armored and utility. Thus leading to the JLTV.

Very good but shockwave armor is complex. Its not a bulett.
Its funny that it needs 1st plattes and more than 1/2 layers for bending support.

Our work is like a building with 3 walls. The 4th one is plastic or plastic foil as blown out wall.

Only the lab has normal walls because we keep the amounts small,

>1ft away and the 50-80g HE cant do much.

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>Thus leading to the JLTV.
Fuck this makes me feel old. I was certified on Humvee and LMTV as a Sergeant, like six years ago. When I go back to the Army as a chaplain in like ten years shit's gonna be so different.

handgrenade, not the fkn monreo effect.

>When I go back to the Army as a chaplain in like ten years
Thats old

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