Is it a waste of money to buy this as my first pistol? I already have an AR15 and old 870 Wingmaster

>clown guns in discontinued calibers
oh please

It's a good pistol if you have the money to spare. I wouldn't consider it a particularly good buy if you're on a budget since you can buy a more average pistol for half the price that does pretty much the exact same thing, or for even less than that you can get a decent .22 which is always a good choice for a first pistol. But I understand money isn't an issue for some people and they want the best they can get, and in that case the Shadow II is a fair choice if it felt good to you.

Poorfag btfo

My other choice was the USP 9 Expert or Tactical. Maybe I fell for the memes, but I've always wanted a USP.

Might I suggest a 1911

It's a great choice for a range toy and USPSA/IPSC matches. It is impractical for carry, probably impractical for home defense, and part of these is due to its very high weight which makes it ineligible for IDPA. It's a great gun, just heavy and has no firing pin block.

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>old wingmasters are boring
Someone doesnt know dick about shit
[its you]

>probably impractical for home defense
Why would that be?

I think he was relating to the fact that everybody and their mom has some kind of 870

I have also been considering the USP expert and to a lesser extent, the USP tactical. The tactical doesn't make much sense for me since the suppressor would probably just be something I wait nearly a year for that serves no real purpose other than cool points since I'll always have to wear ear pro anyways where it would get used.

The expert is neat but they really aren't as impressive in person as I would like. I've come close to buying one multiple times but every time I check it out in person I rethink it since it isn't that impressive; the trigger is mediocre aside from how crisp the single action is and the good 9mm 18 round steel lined mags are like 70 fucking burger bux a piece. They also don't seem to have the same reliability as the regular models. if the experts were cheaper I'd probably get one but for $1250 to get the 9mm expert it's a shit deal and $950 for a .45 expert is not a very great deal for what you get either.

The shadow 2 will outshoot both of those guns except maybe outside of ransom rest accuracy in which case it would still be close. I have purposely avoided getting a Shadow 2 since it fits literally two purposes: range gun and USPSA/IPSC and in competition it is extremely fucking common. I've tried to reason myself into getting something else because I don't like most CZ guns and don't want to start investing in the mags and other shit, but the Shadow 2 is really impressive enough to make me consider it despite my bias.

It's fucking heavy

No firing pin block so questionable drop safety to begin with made only worse when an extended firing pin is installed (a common mods but not necessary per session)

It's pretty big

Optimizing it for competition involves dropping the pull weight with the mainspring. Doing this without an extended firing pin increases your risk of light strikes. Doing this with an extended firing pin increases your risk of the gun not being drop safe.

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But who gives a shit about what guns some guy's mom has? Who is insecure enough to buy a gun based on what's popular?

I could maybe see the lack of a firing pin block being an issue but I don't think weight or size when talking about a handgun is an issue at all.

It is a huge deal for carry but less so for at home.

Are there any other good metal framed 9mms that are competition capable?

>WC Beretta 92G Brigadier Tactical
>Slide mounted decocker

>Sig P226 Legion
>Not buying Sig as long as Cohen runs it

>I want it because I fired one at the range and was extremely impressed by it.
That's about the best reason, this will be a gun that you'll enjoy a lot, and pimped CZ75 pistols are objectively good performers.

I can't think of a downside.

>blogpost incoming

I've got a Shadow 2 since march now. Needless to say, I thought I was pure trash at shooting handguns especially longer ranges but... The CZ just auto-corrects every mistake you can make. There are times where I impress myself thinking "okay there's no way I've grouped 5 shots within 3 inches at 25 yards, I must haved flinched or something" then after checking the paper, there is 3 touching holes and 2 strays about 2 inches away.

The slide mounted decocker is a perfectly good thing, it's not like a safety that you ride nor are you likely to accidentally hit it under recoil like maybe an HK decocker. The Wilson brig tac and the other high end Beretta 92's are really quite great.

The 226 legion is actually a nice gun but I dislike some features on it like the sights, in concept they're good but the size is weird.