Shopify PSA

This about sums it up:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUe8twEySpw

Recently Shopify banished a plethora (basically everything) of firearms related items from its services.
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>No one cares about your YT account and follows
>no one knows who Spotify knockoff is

What the fuck is a shopify?

Never heard of Shopify. Nothing of value was lost

Yup, seems about right. Don't ever change Jow Forums

shopify is the backend sales platform of many online webstores. it's what allows them to easily setup and sell items of any sort.

Have you ever bought guns or gun stuff online? You have probably used Shopify.

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You guys are fucking idiots.

Shopify is a multi-billion dollar company which is currently the best tool for anyone online to build a store.

Because of their fantastic feature set and ease of use, they've captured basically the entire marketshare of small to midsize buisnesses who sell online---this year they've really started to put a dent in the big players too.

Your favorite online gunstore? Holster maker? Parts retailer? 9/10 of them, at least the ones who care about providing a good service... they're on Shopify.

What makes this insidious though is that for the last several years Shopify internally has been telling everyone in the outdoors industry they have absolutely no problems with them bringing their stores over.

Guys who have been burned in the past were told "no it's fine" and reassured that shopify had their back. For most that means literal years of man hours to migrate from old and outdated systems, and setup, maintain and configure their new storefront software.

This move is incredibly hostile, they're banning the entire market segment---not just FFLs. Accessory makers, anyone even related to guns is going.

And they're doing this right before the most important time of the year sales wise. These small businesses that have spent tons of money training staff on Shopify, building custom sites etc---they're going to lose their biggest sales period, and their entire revenue stream.

All with no warning.

This right here.

maybe shopify would be a bit more sympathetic if rideau street wasn't ringing out with gun shots.

Can legal action be taken against them for this?

getting real tired of this deplatforming shit. Need to regulate tech companies now.

Careful what you wish for

anyone have a list of companies that used shopify that got dropped because of this?

Yes, it's in the works pending their implication of the new rules.

Several large names and shit loads of small to medium names. Spikes tactical for example.

hence why the free market is shit and so is capitilism, there needs to be regulation of businesses

No, we just need to regulate Jews.

someone make a thread on akfiles

>maybe shopify would be a bit more sympathetic if rideau street wasn't ringing out with gun shots.
No one cares about your nigger-infested shithole.

Sure thing, user. Couldn't agree more about more oversight of their business. I have some legislation right here that makes it illegal for any online retailer to sell gun related items without an FFL in your state. Sign right here, and glad to have your support!

Nah, any SAAS worth its salt has a living terms of use and acceptable use policy with language that says you accept and agree to abide by them and any posted updates by simply using their product.

I'm not the guy you are replying to, but I am in the ecom industry. It will be interesting to see what direction a lot of these merchants shift. Do they slide back down market to Woo, Squarespace, and similar or upmarket to BigCommerce, Demandware, Magento, etc?

The companies that are more midmarket or even enterprise level will probably be better served moving upmarket since Shopify Pro is pretty laughable but the small guys are going to be stuck on vastly inferior platforms compared to where they were at on Shopify.

Fuck off. We need trust busting now. Companies like google need to be treated like utilities. Imagine if all major phone companies said they don’t want democrats using their services.

>Companies like google need to be treated like utilities.
Enjoy getting raped in the ass by the Feds far worse than Jewgle ever could.

>everything wrong in the world is because of muh boogeyman
t. brain the size of a peanut

I welcome the slow decline of shopify, every time a company takes a strong stance like this they lose many customers who have a long memory. If you are any small or medium business who uses shopify I would look very cautiously at the platform, who knows if they are going to find themselves cut off next (looking at all of the dropshippers out there).

The problem is that left-wing outrage mobs move fast, hit hard, and then move on to the next target, while the right moves slowly, surely, and quietly. That's what explains the "get woke, go broke" phenomenon. Companies give in to a loud mob that's good at making itself look bigger and more influential than it really is, and then a few months or years later finds itself in the red because middle America decided to spend its money elsewhere.

Long story short, Shopify probably just shot itself in the foot (pun intended) by banning gun-related businesses, but we won't see the fallout from it for some time.

i just got a email today from Franklinarmory with a copy of a letter they received from Shopify.
Shopify is banning all firearms related transactions from their financial services or whatever. its under the "acceptable use" clause in the user agreement or some shit
>Operation Chokepoint
FUCK

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No. There's no need to give the government control of these companies, all we have to do is enact a digital Bill of Rights that extends the protections that the Constitution gives us from government to internet companies. Make it possible to sue these companies for violating your rights. Everyone always likes to minimize free speech by saying "hurr durr the 1st amendment only applies to the government", which is true (although the 1st amendment is merely an enumeration of a natural right) but why should it be? Why shouldn't the Bill of Rights be made to apply to private companies that run platforms which are effectively the Public Square?

>need to regulate Jews.
with the thermostat on the ovens
crank it up Siegfried.

>Operation Chokepoint
Thanks for posting this user, some real interesting reading. Also very appropriate digits.

This is how the left wins. Techies are overwhelmingly lefty and gun owners as a whole are a minority, even in the US.

I simply don’t see how we can ever win if we keep playing by the rules.

>we
sure thing shareblue

so "Bake the Cake!" doesn't apply here?
because its not meant for real freedoms?
only for enforcing sjw lgbt agendas?

The worst part about them is that they don't deal with the "risk" that the insurance and financial companies who have pulled this shit in the past - they don't do payment processing.

What in the fuck is their value added if they don't do payment processing? They provided a GUI for a sales database? These vendors deserve the assfucking they're getting.

Sounds like someone needs to get hacked.

Yeah, that's exactly what we need. MORE government control.

>Sounds like someone needs to get strung up from a lampe post
*ftfy

yo waddup Sargon that's never going to fly

one more reason why ignoring and abandoning your LGS is a bad thing to do. if ever we needed the foundation and network of local brick and mortar gun stores, it is now.
they are, or could be the last resort, the ultimate back up. the Last Stand. literally The Alamo.

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They provide database management links between dealer and distributor as well as the website design etc

Antitrust laws exist for a reason.

Literally who?

They actually do offer the best in house payment processing in the industry as far as customer experience goes. But that never allowed firearms related stuff anyway as it was built on top of Stripe.

Shopify's stance previously was pretty hands off; if you wanted to sell guns that was fine... they let you integrate the payment processor of your choice and continue using their platform without processing payments through their in house offering.

That said, there is a lot more that goes into your online store than payments. Shopify makes a very, very complicated problem for merchants a lot simpler by offering a reliable, developer friendly platform, with an extremely high level of customizability and interoperability with customer service, fulfillment, marketing and other software services. Nearly all of this is completely invisible to the customer.

>just migrate to a different service
Webstores are not trivial to build and maintain if you have any kind of order volume or catalog depth. For most businesses, migration represents a huge time and money investment and a great deal of risk to the company.

Most of the other options user listed here are trash compared to Shopify and/or have already banned anything scary from their platforms.

The reason Shopify's decision is getting so much press is that they are the industry leader. This move is going to set a precedent that will ripple across what used to be a fairly politically agnostic software industry.

Shopify is worth several billion dollars and is definitely not going to be in decline anytime soon.

cringe