Give me one good reason why i shouldn't buy a Sig p320 over a Glock 17

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>That 20 yo zoomer who believes the US Army makes these decisions without thought

get the hi point 9mm user. more bang for your pennies

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Plus if it does not work you can always hit him with it.

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I find that the trigger and the muzzle flip on my P320 RX is worse than on a Glock 17.
The Glock 17 i shot recently was an ex-police issue, so it may had a lot of trigger pulls before I shot it.
The thing with the muzzle flip is no miracle either given the higher bore-axis in conjunction with the red dot on my P320.

Put your trip back on.

>serialized FCG
>not innovative, desirable or good

This. Just feel them up grip-wise and try their triggers. Get what feels best.

I'd toss the Springfield and an m9 derivative into those choices if you're looking at name brand polys.

>Get what feels best.

That's retarded advice user. A fleshlight feels great on my dick but I wouldn't bring it into combat.

OP should've been give one good reason why he should buy anything but a CZ

It’s called lowest bidder

I've had both and have carried both for over two and a half years apiece. I've been firing at least every other weekend for just as long. I swapped out my Glock 19 in favor of my Sig P320c and I'm not going back. Same Trijicon HD night sights, same Safariland retention holster. My grip on the Sig feels more complete and I like trigger more than the Glock. The Glock's trigger feels crunchier than the Sig. I know that's a weird way of describing it, but the Sig's trigger just snaps and feels a lot cleaner. The reset feels shorter, too. I'm not selling my Glock, but I'm not going back to carrying it on duty, either.

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FN 509 Tactical!!!! FTW!

plus plus LIFETIME WARRANTY

>They used to be a tier above

Couldn't agree more. Sig was 100% a tier above Glock until 1982.

Dude trigger bro!

lmfao

This
Glock is bargain bin tier, and Sig just wants to outdo them on that front

>bargain bin teir

Don't look a dick horse in the face user.

not drop safe

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The only trip I use is on /out/ to piss off some autistic faggot in my state who hates cairns

How is it good? The frame is much easier to make than the FCG.

Sig is owned by a Jew

Why not?

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>Fleshlight attached to stock instead of barrel
>2011

Do you even operate you slack-jawed faggot?

>t. Noguns

I've never complained about recoil since, friendo

Are you retarded, or just noguns? Trigger feel is a huge part in making or breaking a good pistol

No dummy you attach it under like a light and then the barrel sits under your scrotum, thus allow for simultaneous fucking and firing.

Additionally you no longer have to shave your balls. If that's something you do, that is.

They still make the metal P series pistols that put them on the map, you know.

>buying either of the overpriced european plastic meme guns

You should put that on a bump stock.

Get a wheelgat

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They've suffered in recent years as well. Seems Sig is more concerned about the lighting in their photos and which wear prone color of the week to slap on.

I'll always love my 90's vintage P229, as it was my first metal framed non-1911 pistol, but I don't think I've shot it once since CZs entered my safe.

If those are your only options, get the Glock.

>How is being able to hotbox a 100 dollar FCG that you can make now from a 80% build that consists of drilling like 6 holes and assembling the fucking thing, that already let's you turn your pistol into one of several configurations, but in theory and soon practice, could let you turn your pistol into a carbine, be a good thing?

Seriously guys, I don't get it. Cheap, easily maintained, manufactured, garage gunsmithed pistols that if you really wanted, that you could sand cast an aluminum frame for, no problem if you're into little boys like that, or could probably make with like a hydraulic press like you do with bending an AK flat, that has stupid simple slides that go for like 200-250 sheckles, not that you can't already get 80% receiver kits for, for like 200$ plus tooling, or like 50-75 for the receiver. And going even further, you could make like a carbine kit for if someone were to do the engineering, and you could definitely 3D print

I just don't get it guys

Sig AGAIN puts something out that shits all over gun control advocates, flies completely under the radar, secures an army contract meaning there's going to be a massive after market in like 3 years, and gives us a half way decent pistol that you can 3D print, stamp and make, or cast like 40% of the absolute worst parts for

What's

Where's the innovation guys?

C'mon let's laugh at Dig because you can hit a gun with a hammer with the safety off and it shoots even though my Glock brand Glocks do the same shit if you remove the trigger safety from thrm guys

Ehh...

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Neither. Get an APX, PPQ or VP9.

P320:
>Liked
-reliable
-feels like quality, lots of steel parts
-mechanically simple
-grip texture feels good when shooting
-ergonomics are very basic, but will fit a wide variety of hands
-trigger pull feels good, easy to be accurate

>Disliked
-balance: bore axis is really high, the gun is a little bit flippy while shooting
-the tall slide makes the gun taller than its comparable Glock model
-chassis seems difficult to disassemble (although I'm not sure why I'd want to), lots of little torsion springs under tension
-trigger break has two clicks

>Deal-breaker
-even in my smallish hands, in a normal shooting grip, my right middle finger could wrap around and touch the mag release (and new grip modules cost $45)
-grip texture is like sandpaper on your skin when concealed-carrying
-the guns shoot you when you drop them

Glock 17:
>Liked
-balances well
-grip texture is grippy without being abrasive (Gen 4)
-all the controls are in their proper places
-recoil feels very soft, very easy to control a Glock
-magazine cost and availability
-ease of disassembly
-size and weight to capacity ratio
-easy to be accurate w/stock trigger
-ergonomics feel great to my hand, the gun feels like an extension of my body

>Disliked
-the potential for limp-wristing jams, although I've never had the issue myself
-the plastic factory sights have a badly designed sight picture
-trigger safety is uncomfortable
-plastic mag release has always felt mushy

>Deal-breaker
-Inconsistent ejection patterns in all generations of modern production 9mm Glocks can (not always and not in all guns) result in brass to the face (BTTF). While not a reliability issue, it is a safety issue. I don't want to risk temporary blindness from hot brass pelting my eyeball during a defensive encounter. The ideal situation is to find a Glock 17 that just doesn't have the issue, but you will need to shoot ~500 rounds through it to know for sure.

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Fucking why tho

>muh the gubmint gon come take muh guns

Maybe some of us like quality pistols instead of bottom of the barrel "3D-printed" pieces of shit that don't work.

What are you smoking?

They're decent pistols for a 450/500$ price tag, you mouth breathing retard

And the question had nothing to do with quality, but Innovation, and innovation is releasing a polymer striker fired pistol that isn't the same fucking thing for 40 fucking years, except over time it gets worse to the point where people grossly prefer your designs from 15 years ago because they function better and last longer without retarded bullshit that makes them uncomfortable to shoot.

Innovation is releasing the AR15 of pistols that has cheap frames, that you can buy an 80% receiver for, for like 150 dollars, or make with like 5 dollars in sheet metal, a harbor freight hydraulic press, and a welder, can reconfigure as you want with nothing more than two working hands, a fucking brain which I'm sure is a struggle for you, and a screw driver, can out of the box be suppressed if you have a threaded barrel that adds like 10 dollars to the cost of the barrel, and basically shits all over gun control by opening the flood gates to high quality, home made pistols that have either been these easily fucked up 80% Glock kits that don't have the same versatility, or these pain in the ass M1911 kits that are fucking expensive and need a shit ton of custom fitting and special knowledge about gun smithing, not to mention tools. A Sig 320 kit requires the bent sheet metal receiver, a jig, and a drill press with appropriate sized drills, putting it together needs a torx screw driver.

>Glock
>overpriced

If you think $600 is too much to ask for LITERALLY the most reliable pistol in history (ballisticmag.com/2018/05/23/glock-17-torture-test-ocean/), then maybe you should stick to Taurus or Hi-Point, Jamal.

Mil Spec is the cheapest the military can get away with and still have it be functional.

One reason: Glock 17 has a proven track record against the P320. I had both and my G17 has never failed me after 2,000 rounds. My P320 on the other hand had constant failure to eject, seriously happened about 30 or 40 fucking times. I couldn't even get to put 500 rounds through the gun before I just gave up. The drop safe failure issue put the nail in the coffin for me and I sold it.

$600 for a gun that's barely changed since it's inception, has multiple competitors that are better, and actually winds up costing more once you upgrade the shitty shitty sights and trigger. Have they just stopped teaching economics entirely in schools?

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wait until the US government gets the bugs worked out before buying a P320. The first versions of the M9 had problems but the government made them fix it. If the US military sticks with this pistol, V2 or V3 should be quite delicious if things go like the M9.

Sig is shit though. Cohen ruined it, which isn't surprising since he's a literal Jew.

>Cut costs on QC, charge full price anyway

>bore axis measured in light years instead of millimetres

They shoot super soft but have more muzzle rise than any other striker-fired pistol I've ever handled

>$600 stop shopping at rip-off gun stores. They sell for like $450 online.

>multiple competitors that are better

Name three.

>barely changed since its inception
Why fix what isn’t broken?
>costing more once you upgrade
Good thing aftermarket upgrades are entirely optional and voluntary.

>buying online

No thx, ATF man

>*tssssssshhhhhk*
>*sip*
>"son, let me tell you why dont give out my social security number to ANYBODY, not even the gubbermint!"

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The M&P series
The Sig p320
The H&K VP9
Literally any striker fired, polymer handgun because it's mostly just personal preference anyway. I have an M&P9c, and you have your hand grenade, it's alright.

Enjoy digital trail when Feinstein wins in 2020.

>spouts the Glocknade meme
>unironically lists the P320 as a superior alternative

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What does that mean? You think your credit card company is going to get you blacklisted or something? If the ATF wants to create a registry, they can get the same information from a brick-and-mortar FFL as a kitchen FFL.

Im protected

>implying I buy from licensed dealers
>implying I don’t just meet up with D’Marcus behind the Home Depot and buy out of his van

>getting robbed by a nigger on purpose
Well you *are* stupid enough to think that Glock 17's cost $600.

i have a p320c(only have a few hundred through it but i've only had it 2 weeks) and i really enjoy shooting it. go for it, man. let me know if you find a place where i can get an over/under rail mount so i can mount a sight on top of mine

You make a great case for why Glocks are good.
algdefense.com/alg-6-second-mount-rmr-black-471.html

glocks are good, too. they're both plenty reliable.

Glockfag here. Good for you, dude. Use whatever you’re comfortable with and don’t let other Glockfags or fudds get to you.

This. Go with what you fits you better
We don't have to be divided like this guys

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I hope to god that isn't the holster you use

>I know more about camouflage than the military does

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are you a newfag

this is Jow Forums, literally a bunch of autists arguing because everyone think they are right

>We don't have to be divided like this guys

Yes we do fuck you

>everything the military does is infallible because it's the military

Tell me again how keeping the 1911 until 1985 and the USMC replacing SAWs with HK416s was a good idea

Militaries all over the world, but especially the US, are not exactly known for being efficient or choosing the best equipment

Are you on crack? I built a glock 19 I'm my kitchen with a leatherman, and the 80% sigs are a massive pain in the ass to even attempt on account of the ridiculous intricacy in the fire control group.