MiG apparently working on 5th gen fighter

>2018
>interceptor

wow they really arent confident in their missiles huh

Not that you know about

>PAK-YU
PAK-NO-YU

>5th gen
>while the West works on 6th gen

Here we go again.

Wait, isnt this the piece of shit that they claimed would have space faring capability?

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It is, along with Mach 4 speed.
Can't wait to see that totally happening.

They said the 6th-gen Mig aircraft would be like that. This one is 5th-gen.

But they called it MiG-41 as well.
So either they dropped the requirements, or the 6th gen aircraft will be delayed after that one.

>This one is 5th-gen.
You mean they claim it will be, when it's done.
Which it most likely never will be.

Oh great. Yet another piece of slavshit vapourware that will get quietly cancelled.

As long as Russia wastes money I'm happy. Dumping 1 billion into this means 250 less armata tanks.

Fewer.

IMPRESSIVSKY!

>As long as Russia wastes money I'm happy.
I mean the whole MiG-25/31/41 series of aircraft almost seem like they were designed to fill a role that Western intelligence made the Soviets think they needed but never existed.
All designed to counter a threat that really never came to be. (Mach 2+ high altitude bombers)
At least they got the 31 to do something useful in the long range patrol and interception of cruise missiles and their carrying aircraft.

Damn, too bad there won't be anyone who can or will buy them...

So they've developed this fancy new tank, that they can't afford.
And they've developed this fancy new fighter, that they can't afford.
Then there was that destroyer, which they couldn't even afford to design was it?
So let's develop a fancy new interceptor, that they won't be able to afford. I mean something has to make sure they can't afford to buy more than a handful of that fancy new missile they just designed, and while he's doing a pretty decent job of it at the moment we can't really count on Erdogan to tank the rouble to that point all on his own now can we?

As always with the Russians it's all about keeping up appearances on the home front.
Can´t let Ivan Ivanovich figure out his shithole of a country is circling the drain or he might decide to go somewhere else.

A long range dedicated interceptor isn't that dumb for a country with such a huge landmass to defend. But it's definetly not essential to their defence system, and they can't really afford more than the bare minimum now.

I wonder if there is actually any way to fix the Russian economy... What are taxes like in Russia, and how much does corruption really stifle innovation and starting small businesses?

Except it's not the 1960s
The whole reason they built the MiG-31 was because the MiG 25 it's derived from became operationally obsolete.

that is not the point. Just ask yourself this question - if any F22 falls from the sky, can you replace it? Do you have manufacturing plant with supply chain and people able to put it together? Today's tech is not WW2, you can't turn automakers into bombermakers overnight. So it makes sense to keep those jobs rolling, just in case shtf...

There's a hell of a lot of high-tech manufacturing around the USA though.

Check out this guy's shop, I bet he does Aerospace.

youtube.com/watch?v=oTz2P5RaoDk

Russia's economy is mostly just oil and gas. It made for relatively good times when the prices were high, it makes for a shitfest now.Back when they were making good money they should have used that cash to build up the infrastructure and diversifying the economy so they weren't so oil dependent, but corruption ahoy, that dough mostly just went into making Putin and his friends rich as fuck instead. Dunno how bad the street level corruption hinders things, but it certainly ain't helping either. Either way, they're caught in a catch-22 at the moment, unfucking their economy any time soon will take investments, but they don't have any money to invest (nor the political will). So you'll be playing the long game, start with shooting off Putin, his fellow cleptocrats, and a lot of the judical side of things. Start fighting corruption, try to keep the education system somewhat healthy and the infrastructure from collapsing until the next oil price peak. When that rolls around (assuming it does, but I'll hold it as likely) start dumping money on, well, just generally unfucking the place really. Better paid cops so they don't need bribes to afford rent, better schools to keep companies well supplied with skilled labour, better infrastructure so companies can get shit done, try to find specific things as well on top of just generally improving the possibilities for people looking to invest, and so on. With skill and a touch of luck, you may eventually drag the place up from the pits.

And the Su-27 and various Flanker+ versions already do the long range interception and patrol duty better then the MiG-31, they are just not as fast in the short range point defense interception role.
And if they ever get the super long range whatever version missiles that the vatniks keep claiming to be available Soon™ for the Flankers the MiG will have even less of a reason for existence.

Russian MoD will buy it in numbers enough to keep company alive. Just like they ordered MiG-35 knowing that they are not ready for use.

F22 can not be replicated, it's official.

To be fair the MiG-35 did see some export customers

So that's why the fuckers are actually having a budget surplus nowadays - whoops.
nasdaq.com/article/russia-sees-budget-surplus-from-tax-hike--finmin-20180709-00091

>15 years of dev and prototyping
>Vatniks will hype the shit out of it and annoy the rational world
>Right when it looks like it could actually enter production Putin and friends will want new Dachas and Yachts and cancel it

>meanwhile US has no flyable aircraft capable of over 3.0 Mach number since 1990s
>Caring about something completely pointless that serves no value in combat
Yep, Vatnik.

And that one that was designed in the 50s, built in the 60s and retired in the 90s still had a higher cruise speed then both the MiG-25 and 31s top speeds.
Good job Ivan.