What Warsaw Pact country had the strongest military, pound for pound and why...

The GDR and Bulgaria had quite professionnal troops which were considered to be quite good by WARPAC and NATO alike. However, they were among the smallest armies of the Pact, and they had less modern equipment than, for example, Czechoslovakia (which had much more T-72s while the NVA had a huge majority of T-55s). Then there's Poland which had a meh army, but two entire divisions (brigades after 1986) of excellent special forces, the 6. Airborne and 7. Naval Assault divisions.

But if we're comparing the WarPac armies, let's say, battalion by battalion, then my money would be on the NVA.

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Sup OP.

What made the NVA so good? Strong leadership, good training?

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The only thing I'm sure is that the Hungarian and Romanian armies were garbage, and that only the GDR and Bulgaria were sure to follow the USSR in a war ; Romania would have wanked in their corner, Poland and Czechoslovakia would have had revolts, Hungary would have been a mess.

Good training. Highly above everything in the Warsaw Pact apart from elite units (Soviet VDV, Polish Marines, Romanian Mountain rifles), and above the average conscripts of most European NATO armies as well.

Plus, they kept the German tradition of having a motivated, strong NCO/junior officer corps, which gave them much more flexibility and efficiency below the regiment level than all WarPac armies.

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>ukraine
No such country.

You know, considering pretty much everyone hated Russia and communism outside of Russia, it's kind of a surprise that none of the Warsaw pact countries fought a war to break off from the USSR, was Russia genuinely a nation just way too powerful to attempt a land war with?

rolling

Yeah. If they sought help from the West in doing so that would've likely been WW3.

A generation of combat-hardened soldiers.

Surely if they joined up they could have given Russia a hard time while still being too close to Russia itself for the risk of getting nuked. I imagine Czech and Poland would be eager allies having pretty much just escaped oppressive regimes.

A hard time?
Sure. Would it be winnable? Maybe, maybe not.

>Would it be winnable? Maybe, maybe not.
That's honestly the question that interests me the most about all this, what would a Soviet State Civil War look like if the countries not so hot about communism decided "fug this, Russia, we war you?"

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Depends on the time and climate because depending on the year you'll have a different mix of nations with different levels of readiness.
Regardless it wouldn't be pretty and would, in my mind, result in either status quo, or independence at very high cost.
The point that holding onto things was untenable was the one where things broke apart in real life.

Fair enough, as I understand it from my family Czechs pretty much only payed lip service to communism and Russia and only pretended to love Comrade Stalin when Russia was looking, apparently my own grandfather was drowned in a lake by the locals because he was communist police.

Eh, not necessarily, the Bulgarians for example quickly reelected the same guys that were in power during the Cold War, and you get shit tons of nostalgia in the ex-GDR and ex-Yugoslavia. Hell, even some Romanians and Hungarians think it was better before, even if it was extra shitty for them, the Hungarians due to the repressions, and the Romanians because Ceaucescu was raving mad.
The Poles though hated communism so much that Reagan and Thatcher would look like 1968 students in comparison.

holy shit, i need to dress my sar 3 as a beyrl/weiger hybrid

rolin

well, considering the former GDR lost most of its best people to the West soon after the reunification & state-owned companies one after another went out of business or moved their operations out of the East, leading to mass unemployment, the Ostalgia is real (if communists were good at something other than oppressing their people, it was keeping them employed for the sake of eradicating unemployment)

ex-Yugoslavia's nostalgia is explained by the simple fact that their strong socialist dictator Tito kept the powder keg known as Yugoslavia from catching fire, the minute he died & power was split between presidents of the republics the ethnic tensions resurfaced.

Remember: both GDR and Yugoslavia had at least some exposure to the West during the Cold War & Western goods were available to an extent, the end of Cold War didn't bring as much new & exiting Western stuff to these countries as it did to the rest of Eastern Bloc so the people mostly noticed the negative effects of the fall of communism.

Fighting like cowards

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>TFW no Albanian waifu to do anal stuff to me

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>ктo cтoит зa этим пocтoм?

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Fuck communism

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Is there a NATO GF chart?

>Pilsner
>Not superior Stout with Irish qt3.14

It sure wasn't the best but the most interesting, Czechoslovak army.
Pretty much their own way in Warsaw pact and that's why I like them.

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Fite me

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How do you simulate anal?

This, I stick my finger up my butt, but it doesn't feel good

oh god

The vibration of the postate (inside anus) and taint makes you cum buckets
Realistic dildos are gay though

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Pretty sure that qualifies as actual anal though

Its still favored by many straight couples and feels great

I get it, my joke was bad

For those of us who arent brain-dead faggots, that got a chuckle outta me. Especially with the faggot's inability to comprehend anything that doesn't involve shoving things up his ass.

Pls gib polen gf

Calm down there, sport
Have you forgotten to take your aderall today?

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Thanks, I appreciate it

German best girl let's go

Included in the Soviet Union faggot retard.

How the heck did this get on to anal stimulation?

qt, you even got the camouflage uniforms and helmets right. 10/10 effort

Moron.

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>Russ*a
Call us when your 3rd world shithole can last more than a 100 years without having a civil war, hopefully you fetal alcohol mongrels will do the world a favor and use the nukes you stole to vaporize each other.

Still isn't a country desu.

It's ruled by a foreign junta regime in Kiev, and has a break-away region not under its control and also an entire peninsula that just told them to fuck off, and joined Russia.

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Russia is by definition the core of the 2nd world, retard.
>nukes you stole
No such nukes.

>oh shit our fucked economic system has collapsed due to corruption and incompetence
>all the missile silos with 3000 of the nukes we put there so any first strike turns an actual functioning country into glass
>can we plz have our nukes back?
>ok, but don't invade us
>Crimea intensifies
>xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
When Trump gets reelected he'll put more sanctions on your toilet of a country, then sell cheap as fuck petroleum to Europe, causing your Venezuela teir economy to fully collapse.

Nice memes.

There's no Irish on the list you blind potato nigger

What the fuck are you on about you fucking retarded moronic faggot.

Dude, practically no Warsaw Pact country maintained a serious NCO corps, but instead had huge career officer corpses with 25 year contracts, VERY many serving in roles normally done by career NCO's in western militaries like the basic training of enlisted personnel or specialized jobs requiring lengthy training and many years of experience to do them well.

>huge career officer corpses with 25 year contracts, VERY many serving in roles normally done by career NCO's in western militaries like the basic training of enlisted personnel or specialized jobs requiring lengthy training and many years of experience to do them well.
Finnbro here, we basically adopted this concept in the latter half of 90s: senior enlisted personnel of the cadre were promoted to commissioned officers overnight & until quite recently most of instructors were commissioned officers (& the rest of them were NCOs in active service & commissioned officers in the reserves & many still are the system is fucked-up I know...) & a lot of specialized jobs actually require officer rank & reserve 'enlisted' hired for those positions are, I kid you not, given temporary special officer ranks that exist for that very purpose until they have worked for long enough to become 'real' officers, but there's one difference: FDF doesn't really do "X number of years" -contracts, once you join the cadre you are in until the FDF either decides you are too old or you fuck up badly enough that the FDF is required to kick you out.

Rollin 4 czech

Poland had a secret H-bomb project during the Cold War, and there was some question about exactly what direction they'd point their guns should WW3 break out.

The People's Army of Hungary was of average quality at worst.

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>Poland
>going straight for thermonukes
with a history like that, why can't post-Soviet Poland into space?

Space stuff cost monies
Our politicians like monies
No space monies

hilarious

Seconding this

YES WHERE

r o l l

What role do the reserve NCO's and reserve officers actually have within the FDF?