One of the highest quality M16 variants on the market is made by the fucking leafs

because we were smart enough to ditch the butt stock

>Where did this meme originate from besides idiots with zero background in manufacturing and Cultists of Castro being absurdly more egotistical than they have any right to be?
1. Canada buys M16's at the same time the US does
2. Canada literally never shoots them, the US shoots the piss out of them
3. Fast forward 20 years and all the leaf rifles are still pristine while the burger rifles are clapped out whores with half their anodizing missing wallowing under the "care" of some room-temp-IQ armorer.

check out this super high quality Thai M16, just like Canada!

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>canada is /arg/

>Literally the exact same fucking rifle, made on the same tooling, same machinery, and to the same specifications as the M16
>Only difference being initial rail design (which was phased out anyway) and a heavier barrel (which is being phased out anyway)
>t.better

I love our military, but its also turned into a fucking joke at this point. One of, if not the most underfunded, underequipped military forces in NATO, with less than 5000 battle ready troops, an essentially non existent navy for the largest coastline in the world and an air force with all of 8 operational planes (not to mention falling apart shitty choppers). We would literally lose a conventional war to most african countries at this point. All we really have are half decent rifles, nifty but too few LAV's. and CADPAT (which is being replaced with memecam anyway)

We need, at minimum, 8 years of a majority conservative government with a tripled military budget to even begin turning the CF into something respectable

Wait, you're not fucking joking

The same fucking FN MAG that is a horrific crossbreed of the BAR and somehow the MG42?

The one that weighs like 30 pounds unloaded because it's got a baseball bat sized piston?

The same retard ultra Downy incest baby from the 1950's that was at best a general prototype on what would happen if we made a MG like you would a Sten?

Jesus Christ, I mean, even the Russians have made cheaper, lighter and considerably more modern MGs within the past three decades. How have we not marched yet marched into Quebec, glassed the cyst of a state, and annexed Canada yet?

They use more WW2 era armaments than most fucjing middle eastern small time terrorists

I agree with you on most things but
>We need, at minimum, 8 years of a majority conservative government with a tripled military budget to even begin turning the CF into something respectable
>implying the conservatives have any interest in improving our military either

Mad Max then

Kek

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You guys seem to think Colt developed the C7/C8.
Canada bought a license to manufacture them then made several small tolerance changes to make it more reliable in cold weather, things like CHF barrels. The manufacturer was Diemaco, a remnant of the Longbranch facility and one of the last of the Canadian ordnance manufacturers. They used their own procedures to make the rifles and QC was higher than Colt's. Colt eventually bought them to acquire their expertise and barrel manufacturing equipment.

I don't know about best, but they're generally better than the generic M16A2, M16A4, and M4A1s.
I'd rather have an old C7 than an M16A2 or even M16A4.

NuColt is a pretty sad state of affairs, but they also lost the contract for M16s and M4s to FN Herstal, who make those now.
Colt hasn't sold rifles or carbines to the US Armed Forces for at least a decade, if not longer.

Also don't forget Barrett, they make some snazzy-ass ARs.

Colt Canada isn't the same as Colt.
Strictly speaking.

Well, true, though the Deimaco C7 is very similar to the Colt Model 715

The US uses the MAG 58 as well. Germany uses the MG3, which is also basically WWII-era technology.

>Colt Canada isn't the same as Colt
That's like saying that a GMC Canyon isn't the same as a Chevy S10. The literal only difference is the badging, they're made on the same production lines and owned by the same company.

>the US uses the Mag 58 as well
No we don't

>No we don't
M240

>What is the M240 for 1$?

the US does not use the MAG58, they use updated 240B's and in some cases 240's, as well as several variants for vehicles

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240L*

If you honest to god dont know the difference between the MAG58 and the 240 then you do not need to be in a thread talking about small arms

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Because it literally, fucking, is.
The C7 is, for all intents and purposes, an M16a3/M16a4 with a full auto trigger group that happens to be built in Canada with CHF barrels, which are due to be phased out because whiny pog fuckin faggots and fatties complain that the rifles are too heavy.

Like many things wrong with this country's military, rather than actually fix the problem or do a sensible solution, they spend millions on needless things, and the people in charge have no fucking clue what they are doing:
>Cadillac Helicopters
>MemeCam
>Used German Tanks
>No-bid Fighter Contracts
>Used Super Hornets

All the flaws of the MAG 58 mentioned earlier are still present in the M240B, you pendantic sperg.

aside from the biggest issue on there, fucking weight and is far more reliable than the original 58 or than russian LMG's

Colt Canada is a completely seperate entity owned by the same parent company. It had it's own production lines and was a state owned arsenal before being bought by Colt.

Colt Canada are on par with those.

>was
Diemaco ceased to exist before you were born and almost all the rifles in current Canadian service were produced by Colt Canada.

Also Colt Canada doesn't actually produce much in Canada any more because the leafs have outrageously high labor costs even compared to the US.

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The majority of rifles in inventory wer made by Diemaco. They only got bought in 2005.

>CHADPAT is being phased out
Wtf

They actually are though, Colt Canada has been selling some of their military stuff lately to civilians lately and they're of a really high quality. I haven't heard a complaint about them yet.

Their rails, triggers, and furniture does not come close in quality. Im sure their barrels might match the quality of some of the ones listed, but definitely not all.
Does Colt Canada even offer suppressed BCG's? Or adjustable gas blocks? Or full ambi rifles? Or AR10's?

>Guys! We need to replace CADPAT!
>Why?
>It's like, over 15 years old...
>Yes, and? It does it's job fine.
>But we need to show everyone how modern and progressive we are!
>How about getting new vehicles? We especially need better aircraft, the old ones are falling apart.
>But that would make our military more dangerous! We wouldn't want that! Let's just give them snazzy new uniforms so we can look like American special forces guys!

I actually like that hand guard lol

>they spend millions on needless things

Don't forget our "tactical" vests which only hold four magazines.

Leaf here the C7 is ass. The c79 sight is even shittier. The fucking bitch jams all the time even if perfectly cleaned

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Most of my buddies preferred the short-barreled C8.

The real problem is that fucking piece of shit scope

No you need to legalize civilian ownership of all arms
If your leads could just buy there own full auto everything and high explosive charges and armored vehicles things would be better

>We would literally lose a conventional war to most african countries at this point
Our men could be equipped with sticks and would still beat those fucking niggers.

Lol
Why use it then?

Because we also use pistols from ww2 no joke we aren't allowed to take apart the pistol mags since it will break them the C7 is garbage

Oh also we never get foregrips its bullshit

Can't you just buy your own pistol?
Carry that instead

No the most you can do is get your own sight for C7

Transferable C7 for sale! urban-armory.com/cart/proddetail.php?prod=c7a1

That's dumb

>A M16 or an M4 is still the same fucking gun. Nothing was changed for the Leafs. Same chrome plated, hammer forged barrels. Same Milspec buffer tubes. Same shitty stocks and handguards. Same exact fucking forgings.

Colt and FN M4s use button broached barrels not hammer forged.

Oh dont get me started on those fucking things. I knew guys who spent hundreds on their own plate carriers, only to get told off for buying their own gear

The M240B improves vastly over the Mag58, and though heavy, runs like a top.
Everyone complains about what a heavy bastard it is, but once it's go time, they all find what a dependable GPMG it is.

The MG3 is an old janky piece of shit and a black hole for ammunition, true, but Germany is planning on replacing it, while Denmark is currently replacing their MG3s with M60E6s.
I'll concede that the PKM is arguably better than all of these, however.

>they're made on the same production lines and owned by the same company
Except Colt Canada is situated in, get this, Canada, and got their name from being bought out by Colt. They were originally Diemaco, and had NOTHING to do with Colt until they bought the rights to develop their own AR15, that in spite of what you insist, has multiple key differences from Colt's rifles.

No it is not.

> TFW the World's best special operations force the SAS prefer to used bootleg AR-Platform made by Canadians instead of American..

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But, CADPAT is fucking good!

Just because nobody complains doesn't mean they are the best of the best.
I never hear complaints about M&P15s but that hardly makes them the best ARs ever, they're just good for being $400-$500 rifles.

>ork_stubber.jpg

>It was just last fall that, as Postmedia’s David Pugliese first reported, Ottawa issued a notice to the industry that it was looking to buy more than 18,000 MultiCam uniforms over the next five years for the special forces.

According to the note, Vance promised improvements to soldiers’ kit, “in particular for gender-specific equipment,” and said he wanted to see more choice available, ideally using an online portal offering home delivery.

“He used boots as an example of an item that would be offered … in many different styles based on their preference…,” the note said.

The briefing note was more detailed than the formal response to questions the Post received this week from the Department of National Defence media office, though a spokeswoman confirmed the military is on the hunt for new uniforms.

Jessica Lamirande, senior communications adviser, noted in an email this week that CADPAT “has been in use since the early 2000s. After nearly two decades of continuous use, in multiple environmental conditions, it is an appropriate time to consider our future options for standard-issue operational uniforms.”

She confirmed that the Forces is “working with departmental gender analysts” to ensure protective equipment is designed for both women and men.

Basically, CADPAT is not progressive enough.

SAS with Canadian L119A2 and portable ECM Jammer.

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Don't y'all use fucking Thermold mags or some other garbage?
Swap for PMags or Lancers and I think you would see vast improvements.

Because even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Unless you're on metric time.

Because you haven't annexed/nuked those leaf fucks yet

No amount of fucking with tolerances will change the reliability of an AR you ignorant mongoloid

Every 2 degrees C, A FOOT of aluminum bar shrinking .00001 INCH, steel shrinks roughly .000007 AN INCH PER FOOT OF STEEL

This is like second year Physics, and the first thing mechanical engineers and designers learn.

Unless the Canadians were expecting to regularly be in -60 weather and go to 80+ weather, no amount of fucking with tolerances would change shit because they used FORGINGS, which happen to handle EXTREME TEMPERATURE CHANGES better than their hot or cold rolled counterparts better by an order of FIVE. Not mentioning that the AR isn't even a highly tolerances rifle in the first damn place.

Fucking think before you speak. What tolerances would fuck with the AR? Pins? Yeah, sure, if they weren't steel and press fit anyway, and weren't going anywhere unless the armorer was doing his work in the fucking freezer.

How about Bolts and the Gas rings? Alright, sure, the same piston system that goes from zero to 150 degrees after a single gunshot because it contains a fucking explosion for a fraction of a second? Not to mention, again, steel, and FORGED A2 TOOL STEEL to add

There's NOTHING you could loosen on an AR that'd make it function better unless you're opperating in temps so fucking extreme you're in outer space.

Stop regurgitating lies and fucking educate yourself

I could see making sure boots fitting the feet of soldiers being a valid cocern, but why the fuck can't they just make more uniform sizes in CADPAT? Multicam will stick out like a sore thumb in Canada, y'all don't have any fucking sandy dunes, it's all pine and/or snow.

I'd rather see you buy M90 camo from Sweden, that shit is still appropriately green and splotchy, and you could score progressive points with the leftcucks.

back in 'nam' we just left our M16's in the dirt for charlie's AK

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Shut the fuck up.

>airsoft mesh mask
lol

>commonwealth country uses weapons made in another commonwealth country
>america btfo
lmao yuropoors

>that feelerino when burgers cant get Colt Canada BCGs, pebbled buttstocks, or proprietary charging handles.

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>self defense is illegal, we only get 10 round magazines, the RCMP can arbitrarily ban pretty much anything on a whim, and we can't actually carry our guns, but at least mutts can't have our special snowflake furniture
the ABSOLUTE state of Cucknukistan

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Hell, as fucked as that country is, Sweden makes shit that would be good for Canada
>Griffin
>Tracked, winterized APCs
>Ak-4
>M-90 Camo

But naw, we only buy german shit apperently

I feel bad for the Swedish military industrial complex. They have so much potential but sadly they're stuck with a civilian government full of Marxists

Anything produced in the USA is trash desu

I would happily give all of that shit up for the right to actually fucking shoot people who come onto my property

>t.16 year old

Theres plenty of legal precedent in Canada for using firearms for self-defense. Just prepare to spend tens of thousands in legal fees.

SD is not illegal lol. Acting reasonably has already been set as as precedent in our legal system.

Using a gun to protect your life is totally acceptable.

There have been many high profile cases. The most recent involves a Mr. KHIL and his shotgun. Look it up.

Get some gi mags

>Reading everyone shitting on my country and our military
>But it's true

Fucking Christ I'll vote for anyone who triples our military budget

>used super hornets

They aren't supers you're getting. You are getting F/A-18 A/B legacy hornets that are the same age as your hornets and have reached the end of their service life.

Did you honestly believe the birds the RAAF are giving you are the pick of the litter and not just a squadron worth of the shittest jets they want to get rid of while transitioning to the F-35? If we weren't selling you these jets we'd be stripping them of parts then burying them in a mass grave like we did with the F-111.

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>Give troops the world's shittiest fucking zipper boots of all fucking time
>Have the moronic Warrants start talking about how good they are
>Boots fall apart within 2 weeks of barrack and parade ground use.
>Well, this small plan fell apart, guess we need to change our whole fucking command wide policy

Five bucks that there will be women who see the "buy your boot" program as a chance to wear some Chinese fashion statement and then complain when it falls apart due to shit construction and the fact that they are 300lbs.

Canada's military and how it is controlled makes me want to fucking cry.

>The M240B improves vastly over the Mag58, and though heavy, runs like a top.
>Everyone complains about what a heavy bastard it is, but once it's go time, they all find what a dependable GPMG it is.
IDK where you get this baseless idea that none of that applies to the MAG. The MAG is heavier and lacks the needless 3rd gas setting or stock buffer or railed sections, on account of not going through the several modernization programs that the 240 has, but is still mechanically the same gun with ~95% parts commonality and the same reputation for reliability in shitty conditions..

why did they bury them? Seems like recycling would make more sense

>c7
>good
Nigger no, fuck that piece of shit. It has a "heavy barrel" that is only full profile after the gas block and front shitty triad that is also dogshit and useless.

It's 20" so fucking have fun going through windows and doors, and the Elcan is fucking huge, 3.4 is a shit magnification because it stis just between usable in CQB and usable at range.

And the biggest problem, oh fuck me the biggest problem are the handgaurds.

They're fucking huge and that shitty triad mount at the front? Yeah throw a Peq and a light on it and then a 203 and the center of gravity for your weapon is now in the middle of the goddamn barrel.

T. 3RCR

It's cheaper to just destroy things than to recycle them.

To be fair, the regular hornets have better sub sonic maneuverability performance. So they have that going for them.

I'd still prefer the Super Hornet IMO, but it's not like they're using F-4s or something

ALSO on that topic
The C79 is dogshit.

Its mounting system is mediocre at best, the eye relief is so bad I want to break it, and the reticle is terrible.

Problem a combination of ITAR shit meaning we'd have to get the yanks permission to do it and the ADF doesn't care about making money so paying someone a dig a whole a bury them was probably the easiest option. Cheap in mind the metal skin in most likely contaminated with anti corrosive chemicals anyone making it of questionable value anyway.

Half the ADF wears non issue boots because the issued ones had problems with the soles falling off and destroying peoples feet from taking so long to break in.

We still use hi-powers because the army wouldn't let the airforce who issue a G19 to aircrew also make it the standard issue sidearm because muh manual safety.

Experience is Syria/Iraq showed that legacy hornets engines also do better in the hot weather. The issue is that the Canadian government fucked up a procurement program that was going to work out fine in the long run in order to save dollars in the sort term.

have fun with your 10 round mags bud. Dont let them catch you storing your rifle improperly or youll lose youre license to own it.

Man it sucks to be me!

You're thinking of the Netherlands. Canadian mags are steel STANAGs

Yet the optic on it is made by an American aerospace company and costs several times what the rifle it's mounted on does....

t. man who buys chink airshit scopes and thinks they're fine because he only shoots 10 rounds a year

...I was implying America strong. Our MIC is produces equipment that Canadians simply cannot.